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    #1

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    I wanted to get an understanding of what people want...maybe more so in a perfect world. What would u want out of medication? Would u want to be a normal drinker and have drinks frequently? Or would you want to remain abstinent? I always assume people are like me and want to drink socially/frequently, but I'm right about 1% of the time in my life :H. I just want to see how all of u feel. Please old timers, drunks, sobers, on the fencers, social drinkers, the abstinence challenge crew vote. Social drinker or sober.


    Social drinker
    When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.
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    I agree with you...

    I wish I could drink socially.. Ya know 2-3-4 and STOP! Unfortunately my stop button seems to be damaged. I am working on it. I think I may be headed down the ABS road. I am gonna try for 31 days AF starting tomorrow. Could be a long 31 days.

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      #3
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      I'm on 295mg of bac now, definitely in the indifference zone. I do sometimes miss the old days, when i started drinking, i could drink 6 beers and get into a fun mood with friends. Over the years as alcoholism progressed, 6 beers turned into 12, with a hangover from hell and massive paranoia and fear when i woke up the next day.

      I tried having 6 beers the other day trying to moderation, and after the third beer, it just doesn't feel that great and i can't be bothered drinking more.

      So i would prefer to be able to partake some times and live the life of when i started to drink, however baclofen prevents alcohol from being enjoyable anymore. If baclofen didn't do that, i don't think it would work too well as an anti craving drug.
      01-01-2014 - Indifference reached, success with high dose Baclofen 295mg.

      Baclofen prescribing guide

      Baclofen for alcoholism - Consolidated Information - Studies, prescribing guides, links

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        Abstinent. If there were a pill that really worked, i wouldn't take it. I feel 1000 times better being AF and it is a simpler life. I hate I had to endure the hell I did, but it was worth it to get to where I am today. Byrdie
        All you gotta do, is get thru this day. AF 1/20/2011
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          #5
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          I won't respond again, but early on... I realize this is kind of a bullcorn post. I think the consensus with most meds is u shouldn't drink on them. So maybe my post is fictional and stupid, but I would still like to see how others feel. Thank u to the firsts. I really didn't start this for an argument of can u drink or not, just doing a little unpaid research for the major drug companies of what we want
          When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

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            #6
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            I'd want to drink socially.

            My experience after a year on baclofen is that I can have a drink with friends and I am good. Baclofen takes the buzz out of alcohol for me so there's no reason to over drink.

            What I initially liked about baclofen was I wasn't counting days and white knuckling it as I had in the past.

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              My experience is very similar to Kronk's.

              I spent my first year on baclofen teetotal but always with the intention of testing the waters with live ammunition. Towards the end of that year I read Suppression of Alcohol Dependence Using Baclofen: A 2-Year Observational Study of 100 Patients which persuaded me that then was a great day to have an alcoholic drink.

              9 Months later I have been drinking when I felt like drinking and not drinking when I felt like not drinking. At no point during the last 9 months have I been drunk. This is how I understand indifference - Take if you want it and don't take it if you don't want it.

              I am profoundly grateful to Olivier Ameisen. During the past 21 months I have never had a craving and never had the feeling that I might be losing control. I am still continually aware that I might be living in a fairy story. This can't be so good.

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                #8
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                Sounds like things are going well for you, Colin. Very nice.
                With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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                  #9
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                  Ideally I would like to drink occasionally but not sure if I could do this. . The bac (with rational thought will hold me back) but there is always a danger I will drink more if I push through it. --I have MANY times.

                  As others have said Bac can greatly diminish physical cravings but it doesn't change my. desire to isolate. I am slowly practicing being present in my in my life and in the lives of other

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                    #10
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                    I think I want to drink socially. For me that would mean once or twice a week but only one, maybe two - which could lead to more frequent drinking and back to square one: that's why bac is going to work for me! I am confident it will help me achieve that relaxation and relief from the anxiety to pick up a drink.

                    So my vote personally is social drinking - or moderation...
                    My first "indifference experience" Saturday January 11, 2014. Thank God for Baclofen!

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                      #11
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                      I would not want to take a pill in order to drink again. I HATE medicines. I know I can't drink and honestly I really have no desire to ever do it again. The fantasy of drinking and having fun is gone for me. Too much happened when I drank.
                      AL free since March 17th 2011...loving this life. No drinking no matter what.

                      Hi my name is Lori and i am so happy to be here.

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                        #12
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                        Byrdlady;1605975 wrote: Abstinent. If there were a pill that really worked, i wouldn't take it.
                        This is exactly what the head of the local AA said to me when I went to a meeting to let them know how baclofen worked for me some years back. Then, as now, the logic escapes me. Without taking anything anyway from your achievement in escaping booze, if there is a simpler way, why not choose it?

                        Personally, I waver between wanting to be abstinent and wanting to drink socially. I can't make up my mind to give it the gentle push required to go fully abstinent, so I continue to moderate. When I first started baclofen, it was with the intention of moderating, but baclofen has allowed me to see that a life without booze is not only possible, but occasionally even desirable.

                        Then there are the times where I don't even want to drink socially, I want to just get hammered, and those are the ones I am trying to remove from the equation. The problem for me is that drinking socially allows them room to exist.

                        It's a fucking conundrum, I tell you.

                        Neo's post resonated with me, although I never really found that baclofen removed the fun, rather the desire.

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                          #13
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                          I would just like a pill that would make me not want to drink at all.
                          R4L
                          Don't worry, be happy!

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                            #14
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                            Here is my perspective from a newbie with a 30 - 60 day AF reset/healing period starting tomorrow. After that reset I'd like to be able to:

                            ~ take it or leave it most days. Not really think about it at all.
                            ~ have a glass of wine at home to unwind and enjoy the taste, but not feel guilty about it or need more.. and not as entertainment or as something to "do".
                            ~ have 1 or 2 drinks out socially. 3 if it's an event over 4 hours..
                            ~ not look as vacations or getaways as excuses to go crazy and have - like 20 drinks per day
                            "We need to learn to love ourselves first, in all our glory and our imperfections."
                            ~John Lennon

                            Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
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                              #15
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                              I support those who have found a way out of the AL conundrum and addiction through taking Bac or other med and if this saves lives and esp makes peoples lives liveable - that's great.
                              For me, now, I don't want to take meds at all . I do if it's essential but I prefer to be med-free. There are Just too many side effects from most drugs IMO or effects that we only find out about years later. I am just not interested in drinking AL without the buzz. And we all know where that leads.

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