Baclofen W/D Help (Urgent)

[_serenity_]

Baclofen W/D Help (Urgent)

I don't see why the pharmacy wouldn't refill your prescription. Bac is not a drug of abuse. My pharmacy has offered in the past to refill 3 months at a time, and my prescriptions are for very high dosages (190 mgs/day). Why not try to refill it?

[StuckinLA]

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Pharmacy might refill it, especially since you don't have to go through insurance. Just tell them you're traveling abroad soon or something, or you just want to have a supply on hand. When you go in don't act like you're doing something wrong - because you're not.

[loki485]

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StuckinLA;1656954 wrote: Pharmacy might refill it, especially since you don't have to go through insurance. Just tell them you're traveling abroad soon or something, or you just want to have a supply on hand. When you go in don't act like you're doing something wrong - because you're not.

These are good ideas. And I'll give it a try. I'm at about 24 hours now. Don't feel awful, but don't feel great. I had thought about the early refill and telling them to bypass the insurance, but the prescription is at Publix and in the past they just won't do it. Regardless. The biggest issue is that the prescription is for a med that my wife's neurologist prescribed months ago - and my wife told her it didn't work. So I'm guessing, should they try to call the DR, they'll say don't refill it. But like I said, I'll try. Just wish I knew how long this lasted. At 24 hours in, if it were to only last another day or two I'd probably try to stick it out.

[bleep]

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Not a doctor, all the usual disclaimers, etc...

You should be absolutely fine. I would say that anything you are feeling now is most probably entirely in your head. That's not to say that it makes it any more pleasant though. I would just try and forget that you had ever taken it, until you get a regular supply, then resume where you left off. This will only become an issue when you have been on it for a couple of months, or so the literature says.

I haven't withdraw from baclofen, but I take mine in one daily dose. Occasionally I forget, and then take it the next day, so 48 hours without a dose, without any symptoms of withdrawal.

Try and relax, not easy when you think you are on the verge of meltdown. You're not!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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bleep;1656970 wrote: Not a doctor, all the usual disclaimers, etc...

You should be absolutely fine. I would say that anything you are feeling now is most probably entirely in your head. That's not to say that it makes it any more pleasant though. I would just try and forget that you had ever taken it, until you get a regular supply, then resume where you left off. This will only become an issue when you have been on it for a couple of months, or so the literature says.

I haven't withdraw from baclofen, but I take mine in one daily dose. Occasionally I forget, and then take it the next day, so 48 hours without a dose, without any symptoms of withdrawal.

Try and relax, not easy when you think you are on the verge of meltdown. You're not!

What he said.

[loki485]

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Ne/Neva Eva;1657059 wrote: What he said.

Hey, I can be optimistic. Even if I am in a mild wd I've definitely got the mental skills to get through it after all of the cold turkey w/d from very long term benzo and IV opiate use.

Thanks to everyone for the support last night.

It's just been a long time since I've had to deal with this on any level, and with a family and special needs daughter, the added stress of knowing I can't just fall apart for a few days or a week to get through it I guess makes it worse.

Plus, I don't know if it's this way for anyone else, but I definitely have a mild PTSD manifested from some of my past withdrawals. So whenever I look up something and see w/d I freak. Especially when there are life threatening issues involved. Cold turkey w/d from a bad IV Dilaudid and Herion 2 year binge in jail with no medical support was quite a hell - but in the back of my mind, as with all opiate w/d, I at least knew I wasn't going to die.

As for a status report, I took Neurontin and Xanax before going to sleep finally last night. Slept through the night, but woke up early with that anxiety, shaky,
impending doom, don't want to get up, can't stay down feeling. Finally got up, took my regular Xanax dose, ate. Started feeling very, very uncomfortable so I took another Neurontin. We'll see how that helps.

Lastly, and again I'm sorry for so long, but I keep reading that it could take up to 4 days for w/d symptoms to manifest. Can anyone explain how this is possible on such a short acting drug?

[Xadrian]

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loki485;1657166 wrote: I keep reading that it could take up to 4 days for w/d symptoms to manifest. Can anyone explain how this is possible on such a short acting drug?

The drug is not short acting and results of increase/decrease can take up to 3 or 4 days.

Because the blood half life is only 4 hours, doesn't mean that the effects on the brain are also short acting.

[loki485]

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Xadrian;1657178 wrote: The drug is not short acting and results of increase/decrease can take up to 3 or 4 days.

Because the blood half life is only 4 hours, doesn't mean that the effects on the brain are also short acting.

Great! So in other words, the fact that I'm feeling "not great" but "not awful" 36 hours in means absolutely nothing. And that's why all of the accounts of bad cold turkey withdrawals I read about start with horrible withdrawals suddenly on day 3 I guess?

Yeah. Now I'm worried again.

[StuckinLA]

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Really, 2 weeks is not enough time to develop dependency. I still say give the pharmacy a shot, but otherwise put it out of your head and pretend you never took anything at all. Feeling not bad is good.

Edit: though yes, it can take a few days for w/d symptoms to manifest - same with alcohol - but in sure you're fine though I'm not a doctor, etc.

[loki485]

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StuckinLA;1657186 wrote: Really, 2 weeks is not enough time to develop dependency. I still say give the pharmacy a shot, but otherwise put it out of your head and pretend you never took anything at all. Feeling not bad is good.

Edit: though yes, it can take a few days for w/d symptoms to manifest - same with alcohol - but in sure you're fine though I'm not a doctor, etc.

Well, lo and behold, then pharmacist agreed to an early refill. A 10 day supply (30 10mg pills), then the rest on the 14th. So, very good news. The trick though now is how to work out the taper b/c if I start at the last dose I was at 60mg, and use the recommended tapers, I'll run out before the last 20 days of the script can be refilled. Any ideas?

[Xadrian]

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If you go like this:

45-45-45
30-30-30
15-15-15

Thats 270
More than enough to phase out.

If you want, you can use the remaining 30 in 10-10-10

[loki485]

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Xadrian;1657264 wrote: You already took 60. If you go like this:

45-45-45
30-30
15-15-15

Thats 300
Just enough to phase out.

Wow! Thanks! I just took my first dose. Hopefully it will put me in better shape because I'm extremely quick with math and was nowhere near those numbers. Must be pretty out of whack! Shaking had gotten really, really bad.

[Xadrian]

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loki485;1657272 wrote: Wow! Thanks! I just took my first dose. Hopefully it will put me in better shape because I'm extremely quick with math and was nowhere near those numbers. Must be pretty out of whack! Shaking had gotten really, really bad.

I edited my post in case you hadn't already taken the 60 mgs, but if you use the rest as in my original post, I think you should be fine.

[loki485]

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Xadrian;1657275 wrote: I edited my post in case you hadn't already taken the 60 mgs, but if you use the rest as in my original post, I think you should be fine.

Thanks! I only took 20mg. Was planning on taking another 10mg in a few hours, then 15mg around bedtime. Then tomorrow, just split it into 3 15mg doses.

Shorter time period today to take the 45, but I'm guessing a little build up faster won't hurt, right?

[Xadrian]

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loki485;1657277 wrote: Thanks! I only took 20mg. Was planning on taking another 10mg in a few hours, then 15mg around bedtime. Then tomorrow, just split it into 3 15mg doses.

Shorter time period today to take the 45, but I'm guessing a little build up faster won't hurt, right?

Since you already skipped some doses, I would take at least 45 mgs today. A little faster indeed won't hurt.