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    I am back -yet again...

    Hi guys,
    some of you might remember me from last summer, when I was posting daily on my progress with Bac. I used to have this doctor who prescribed it to me - though at a steady dosage I increased on my own - and I had reached the very beginning of indifference, meaning I was not indifferent every day, but the 2 days that I experienced it, relatively early in my progress, just left me elated and speechless, cos I hadn't been indifferent to alcohol for years. I simply could not believe it: it was happening.

    Then I had to dump the doc cos the therapist he was working with was a vicious, heartless creature and because they both required me to go to AA (not gonna happen). Right after that I had a few months of personal drama that had nothing to do with drinking, so, though I kept drinking, my mind was 100% somewhere else. Wine just wasn't my priority anymore. My pain all resided elsewhere.
    Before the beginning of this phase and after dumping the doctor, I had started taking liquid Bac, which at this point I stopped altogether b/c as I said my addiction preoccupation slipped to the back of my mind.

    Then I contacted Evan again in November (btw.... what happened?????) to make sure I could still take the liquid Bac that had been sitting on my shelf since August. So I started again - only to stop a couple of weeks later, when I tritrated down because I had to fly to Europe (transportation of liquids is a freaking pain, and I would be staying with my parents so I did not want them to ask questions about what it was). Needless to say, when I came back I did not get back on it - a family tragedy threw my AL preoccupation to the back of my mind - yet again.

    Right when I finally decided to start again on liquid Bac, in early April, and was about to call him, literally minutes before dialing the number, I read a hint to Evan's departure here. I e-mailed somebody to ask what happened but they never got back to me.
    That moment, I thought I just had to put the Bac option to the side cos I'd never find a supplier or doctor who'd help me.

    I thought about starting on my own again with online supplies, but I am a notorious chicken, and my husband did not like the idea of my having no medical supervision. Then I went to see a new psychiatrist just to get a refill on my depression meds, and, though he was very skeptical at the beginning ('very' being an understatement) when I told him that the guy who had prescribed Bac to me is an addiction expert (he is) he finally decided to prescribe Bac to me. Now here's the problem: he prescribed me 20 mg a day, what the previous doc had, and I KNOW that he would never consent to go progressively high in dosage, cos it's already a miracle that he prescribed that
    . So, since I also know that my addiction is worse than what it was last summer, and let me tell you I would never had thought that was even possible, and since I am fed up with and scared of myself and my losing control more and more - and more
    , I have decided to buy Bac online and take it along the pills the doc prescribes me, going up alone.

    To get to my questions: could you guys pls tell me which online supplier you're using and above all which "version" of the medication (there's a bunch, I see!) treated you more gently, SE wise? The cheaper option would also be welcome. Also, I've read of so many different ways of going up on it that I don't know which to follow. I think I remember going up 10 mg a time was recommended, but every 3 or 6 days?

    Right now, I have been on it since April 27, when I started with pills I thought were 10 mg each but were instead 20 ( I was so bummed by knowing that I wouldn't be able to go up under medical supervision that I did not even bother to read the label...!!). I stayed on 20 for one week, then I doubled taking two pills, thinking again that I was going from 10 to 20 but I was going from 20 to 40 (no wonder I felt like you do when you take xanax, the first time!). However, I realized my mistake mid-week, and I decided to come back here to ask for your help - yet again.

    Thanks to each one of you who'll take the time to reply :h And, it's nice to be back

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    I am back -yet again...

    I used Goldpharma, never had a problem with delivery. 25mg pills and they seemed to be comparable in price to anything else. Usually going up 10mgs every 4-5 days or so works but listen to your body. I'm not a doctor, etc.

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      #3
      I am back -yet again...

      zampa75;1659818 wrote:

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      I thought about starting on my own again with online supplies, but I am a notorious chicken, and my husband did not like the idea of my having no medical supervision. Then I went to see a new psychiatrist just to get a refill on my depression meds, and, though he was very skeptical at the beginning ('very' being an understatement) when I told him that the guy who had prescribed Bac to me is an addiction expert (he is) he finally decided to prescribe Bac to me. Now here's the problem: he prescribed me 20 mg a day, what the previous doc had, and I KNOW that he would never consent to go progressively high in dosage, cos it's already a miracle that he prescribed that.
      Hi Zampa --

      Welcome back and good luck this time. I can't help on which pharmacy to use, but I do wish your new doctor were a bit more curious and open-minded. As we all know, alcoholism is a terrible disease, but it is just that -- a disease -- and it is treatable with baclofen. The evidence of baclofen's efficacy is mounting but many doctors still either don't know about it or won't prescribe it in high enough doses to insure that it works.

      Have you considered showing the French prescribing guide (English translation) to your new doctor? Here is a link:

      Prescribing Guide for Baclofen in the Treatment of Alcoholism ?€“ for Use by Physicians

      If you google it you will find other, more user friendly versions of the same document.

      I am very curious if your new doctor would be willing to read this document, and if he will, what his reaction is.

      Best wishes,

      Cassander
      With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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        I am back -yet again...

        Hi Cassander! Good to be back.

        I have a feeling this guy belongs to the huge percentage of doctors who would be offended if I tried to "educate" him. I'm sure you know what I mean. He only accepted to prescribe Bac to me when I showed him the bottle of pills and told him that the doctor who had prescribed it was an addiction specialist. To give you an idea, before giving in, he said he'd prescribe me a medication that he KNEW would work: Campral. I could not hide a smile when I told him that I had already tried it and it did not work at-all (it was, in fact, as effective as willpower - pretty much self-explanatory, isn't it?:H It was like taking a sugar pill!)

        So I could try but my gut tells me he won't even let me finish the sentence...

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