Here we go again

[Ne/Neva Eva]

One more thing.

I spent a little bit of time in some of the other areas of MWO. I was alarmed, dismayed and saddened by the number of people who are actively drinking and/or in relapse and/or struggling in so many other ways. It was really eye-opening, though. Some people who have been here as long or longer than I have, who had really solid sobriety, are actively drinking. And a couple of the ones I knew from these threads aren't around anymore. I haven't reached out to find out why. Still, it bums me out.

This disease is a really difficult one to overcome. Reading those posts made me profoundly grateful for my own sobriety, (almost 4 years now!) and were a reminder to not take it for granted. They also illuminated the power of medications, particularly baclofen. And social support!

[Eloise]

Lis- just as a follow up to your reply- It really does get better. It really really does. But it takes a ton of work. But it's worth it.

True, true, true. All true Skull!

[dundrinkn]

Is this the funny thing ever? Love it!

[dundrinkn]

Oops, I thought I was responding directly to Kronk's holiday feast video with the animals. Oh well. Hi Lis -- I too am have been in technology hell the last few days. Argh.

I am doing well. The further I get away from the daily drinking, the better I feel. I need to read some posts on the other threads, as Ne was pointing out, to keep my perspective. I really don't want to throw anymore days down the drain. Hope everyone is hanging in. I'll step my toe in here occasionally and see what happens. I ain't scared.

[Spiritfree]

One more thing.

I spent a little bit of time in some of the other areas of MWO. I was alarmed, dismayed and saddened by the number of people who are actively drinking and/or in relapse and/or struggling in so many other ways. It was really eye-opening, though. Some people who have been here as long or longer than I have, who had really solid sobriety, are actively drinking. And a couple of the ones I knew from these threads aren't around anymore. I haven't reached out to find out why. Still, it bums me out.

This disease is a really difficult one to overcome. Reading those posts made me profoundly grateful for my own sobriety, (almost 4 years now!) and were a reminder to not take it for granted. They also illuminated the power of medications, particularly baclofen. And social support!

Yes Ne -it is sad to hear when one returns back to alcohol after periods of sobriety. I am glad to see so many on the other parts of the forum who have not returned to drinking and continue to share their positive experiences. And, I have to admit that your four years of not drinking is quite remarkable and deserves much respect. I only hope that others seeking relief will read your thread and get a better understanding of sobriety. Goodt story and good information. Link:https://www.mywayout.org/community/sh...-thread-for-ne

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Got some really good news this evening that I want to share with you guys. Remember the kerfuffle with Ed's license, based on a DUI from 1989? Finally got the word today that his license is clean and clear! Except that it now has an "alcohol and drug restriction" on it for five years. What is that? Anyone know? And isn't that ridiculous? It was TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO. oy vey.



Still, all in all good news.



Don't you get your license this week, Lis?

[StuckinLA]

Hi Ne. Awesome news on Ed's license. I have no idea what that restriction is. Must be something relatively unique to your state? It's at least not nationwide as far as I know. Might be something like a lower BAC threshold for another DUI. But hopefully that won't be a problem - though something to watch out for. I know he drinks to excess once in a while still.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Hi Ne. Awesome news on Ed's license. I have no idea what that restriction is. Must be something relatively unique to your state? It's at least not nationwide as far as I know. Might be something like a lower BAC threshold for another DUI. But hopefully that won't be a problem - though something to watch out for. I know he drinks to excess once in a while still.

It was a bizarre set of circumstances, Stuck. When he was 19 he was arrested for a DUI. He went through the court-ordered rigamarole, but never got his license back. Finally got his license in ~2008?

This summer, (2014, for goodness sake!), we received a notice from our insurance company that his license was "ineligible". No one knew what that meant, only that it was related to the state where he initially lost his license. We had to go through the original state, file a bunch of paperwork, and wait for them to determine whether or not he was "eligible" to get a license.

That happened yesterday.

As far as his drinking is concerned...It's still concerning, obviously. But he went back up on bac and that seems to have mitigated the drive to drink to blackout when he goes out with the boys. That said, I don't know that I will ever be comfortable with those kind of situations again. In fact, I know I won't. No amount of baclofen, or sobriety, will keep someone from getting outrageously drunk if the shots are flowing. Discernment and decision making plays as big a role in creating a new life (and keeping it safe) as taking a medication does. Something I think we have firmly established around here. His experience isn't unique.

Peace out.

[kronkcarr]

Discernment and decision making for sure. I think remembering how grateful I was when baclofen started working for me is important too. Also I'm realizing that I'm not so good at recognizing when I'm overloaded with stress.

[Lostinspace]

Wow. It seems that a whole bunch of posts have been deleted since the last time I logged in. I hope that means we can finally have peace here again. Anyway, that’s great news about Ed’s license, Ne And no, it’s not this week for me, but next week that I have my road test.

Stuck, kronk, dun, tk, bk (where ever you are), and all the other friendly faces - I hope you guys are doing well. I’m doing OK-ish, but a little tongue-tied and still a bit scared of posting. I just wanted to say a quick hello and send my love. I hope you’re all having a great weekend :hug:

[StuckinLA]

Guess I should drop by quick. Been a bit of a struggle the last 3 days or so, been drinking. I hate daytime maintenance drinking, but that's what I've been doing. Don't know why I haven't been able to just pop the Ativan and put the brakes on everything and stop for at least a couple days or whatever. I just don't know. Maybe it's the dissertation, maybe it's the holidays, maybe it's another year coming to an end or waiting to hear about next year or going home to see the family. Not sure, but it's something.

I would like to see this thread get back up and running. You all mean so much to me; I hope you're all having a lovely weekend.

[kronkcarr]

I'm up to 60 mgs and making the choice to not drink. It's not a hard choice when I stop and choose instead of buying or pouring out of this new/old habit.

I have so much anxiety. I'm on some new supplements and maybe that's why. Plus I'm emotional with the holidays.

Stuck, hang in there. Maybe choose an Ativan today.

tk, thanks for your reminder.

Everyone else, happy rest of the weekend,

[helpmequit]

hi lostinspace. i went back to the start of your thread cause this thread seems so good. i read many of your first posts and it just seems like you are getting no where -if u are trying to quit. i think that i just want to quit drinking cause i just cant take it no more. i want to really try and keep going with baclofen but if it don't help me none then i need to try something else. please tell me what you think or any other posters tell me what you think. (im taking 30 mg per day right now). and i wanted to ask this too about how long does it take for baclofen to start working -i just don't know that i can do 8 months r more to feel a difference. i just need to stop drinking. lostinspace, you started posting bak in june so i guess i just don't understand how to do this baclofen stuff the right way.

Ok. This is my third attempt to post. I guess my first two messages were too long, so I got logged out before I could post. Anyway, new member here, long time lurker. I need help. I went through a medical detox several months ago and got my doctor to prescribe baclofen. Never reached indifference because he'll only prescribe up to 80 mg. Anyway, things at work got real busy and stressful, I forgot my dosing schedule, lost all help from the reduced cravings that baclofen provided. I relapsed hard. Started drinking all day, every day, once again. I managed, a month and a half ago, to detox myself by reducing my drinking by a few shots a day until I was down to zero. Well, the next day, I started drinking yet again because I'm an idiot. The baclofen never made me indifferent at that dose, but it did help. How do you baclofen users remember to take it as many times a day as you do? I'm having trouble getting back into a routine.

[helpmequit]

i think i will just stop posting for a while. this person stuck scares me. i should have never started in the first place.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Lis, do you know how to put someone on the ignore list? If you go to the top of the screen, you click on "forum actions". Then under there go to "general settings". There is a link on the side that says "Edit ignore list" and you put a username in there. I HIGHLY recommend you do this. It seems to me the sole purpose of our newest member is to make other members feel badly. And to keep drinking. Since the SOLE PURPOSE of this forum is to lend support to those who want to quit drinking, it doesn't make sense to participate in that discussion.

There isn't anything anyone can write here that undermines my own well being. Certainly not something written by someone I don't know who clearly doesn't know anything about me or my journey to get here. Keep that in mind. My biggest concern is when the trolls target people who are trying and aren't here yet.

I still wish there were active mods on this board, but it doesn't look like that's the case either. It's a tough situation. I wish I had a better solution than to sit idly by and "ignore" while continuing to participate here. I don't.

It really doesn't make sense to me to let one or two people derail what seems to me to be a good thing. That seems like something I should actively work against by continuing to participate. Fairness and justice and kindness and all of that other good stuff...It's important to keep the goals in mind.