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    #46
    Originally posted by Spiritfree View Post
    Dun-your mental disorder may have now caused you to cross a line that you never intended to cross. Perhaps now, you will finally receive the medical help that you need and deserve.
    Not so funny on itself, but because of who said it.
    You must not have realized how hilarious that is.
    Today is the first day of the rest of my life.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Xadrian View Post
      I'd like you to to the fact that the original med section (on the old forum) was titled: "Topamax, Campral, Naltrexone, Baclofen, other meds".
      So, pretty similar to "Baclofen and other medications that may help"

      Come again?
      Ok X -u r right again. LoL.

      X -it is good to see u back posting.
      (I wonder why they changed the title? They must not be as intelligent as your are?)

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        #48
        Originally posted by kronkcarr View Post
        kronk
        Kronked -why continue your personal battle against me? Have you nothing new to offer the forum? Can u not find more productive ways to help yourself and others outside of trying to belittle me? Do u feel better about yourself after making negative comments to me? Do you feel that the group is more favorable towards you when you berate me? Kronked, are you really happy with yourself when you attempt to belittle someone else -even if they are wrong? Thank you for not responding. These questions are only intended to help you help your self. SF.

        (PS: Neva -this will not be the first time that you have 'left' MWO and I do not think that it will be your last.

        (Kronked, if you want to write that I say negative or hurtful things to people, please start posting those words for all the site to see).

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          #49


          FYI

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            #50
            Fred -you continue to try and garner support and sympathy. Recently, you made a final (or so called final) post relative to your leaving MWO. The reasons that you did not receive much, if any feedback, is relative to the posts that you have made in the past. Unfortunately, for you, you will receive relatively little support for your comments/actions based upon your past posts/actions.

            In the past:
            (1) You have definitively defined yourself as a troll who has brought the destruction to other forums.
            (2) You have used words and phrases that are so sick that even my adversaries will not go along with you.
            (3) You have used sexual metaphors to speak about me and others that are quite truly indecent and do not belong on any site.
            (4) 83.7% of you last posts in two years have only been relative to "what I have done wrong". You have offered nothing in the way of helping others.
            (5) You have several other a/k/a avatars that you go by -all in an effort to attack me.

            Certainly, there are a few members (Ne, Dunn,Kronk,etc.) that will go along with anything that you say as long as what you say is in defamation of me, but Fred, most people just do not subscribe to your "type" of verbage and messages, no matter who you are defaming or trying to hurt. In other words, you have no credibility -even among my most critical adversaries...

            Are you glad to be back on MWO. I hope so.

            --sf--

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              #51
              Originally posted by Spiritfree View Post
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                #52
                Originally posted by lex View Post
                Maybe nobody is to blame here. Maybe you simply can't sustain a forum wherein half the members seek abstinence but the other half do not.


                Lex, you make a very good point.



                If someone is still drinking and knowingly harming themselves by doing so, it is very difficult to read or listen to others who say that "not drinking" is the best route. How do I know this? I have been there and done that. It is a miserable existence; to continue consuming something that you know is killing you and making your miserable, and at the same time, trying to rationalize why you should keep doing so until you don't want to do so.



                There exist no single alcoholic (AUD victim) in this world that wants to here the words; "you can never drink again". They will lash out with all that they have left -to rationalize and justify their continued efforts to consume. This is only natural and logical and must be expected and accepted as a result of the brain damage caused by alcohol. I have to remember that I was there and did the same thing that they did/or doing. Abstinence is just not an acceptable term if you are still in the throws of alcoholism.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by badger View Post
                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]1688[/ATTACH]
                  Badger, so nice to see you bac posting on the forum. Do you not realize that your typing in all lower case and other clues give you away as the same persons that also post negative posts under different aliases? You all have now shown up at the same time as Otter and are now trying to destroy the forum. What true purpose would this really serve even if you did destroy the forum?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Spiritfree View Post
                    Badger, so nice to see you bac posting on the forum. Do you not realize that your typing in all lower case and other clues give you away as the same persons that also post negative posts under different aliases? You all have now shown up at the same time as Otter and are now trying to destroy the forum. What true purpose would this really serve even if you did destroy the forum?


                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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                      #55
                      "Badger and Otter - best of friends"

                      Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.


                      Otter and Badger -you really do have to watch this -really funny.

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                        #56
                        To me total abstinence is total freedom. Freedom from the relentless mind chatter of whether or not I can allow myself to drink today, freedom from the guilt, shame and remorse I use to feel after drinking, freedom from the worry about how much I was spending on alcohol.....well just freedom in so many different ways I could never list them all.
                        Any way we achieve that freedom is wonderful.
                        No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by badger View Post
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]1688[/ATTACH]
                          Badger -this is exactly the type of mean, hateful, posts that many of you on the meds section post when referring to me. This is another example of a down and out lie regarding sf - all in effort to try and make yourselves look and feel better. Never in the world did I post something as cruel and distressful as this. I know that some people might think that what you/otter posted was funny -but it is not, at least not to me. Why Badger? Why keep the hate filled posts going on a site that is intended to help otters out of an incredibly sickening and deadly disease? You got what you wanted, my attention. Now please, for the sake of the others, the forum, and me -stop badgering/ottering me.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by little beagle View Post
                            To me total abstinence is total freedom. Freedom from the relentless mind chatter of whether or not I can allow myself to drink today, freedom from the guilt, shame and remorse I use to feel after drinking, freedom from the worry about how much I was spending on alcohol.....well just freedom in so many different ways I could never list them all.
                            Any way we achieve that freedom is wonderful.
                            LB -thank you for reporting your experience with abstinence and the freedom that comes along with it. As you so perfectly state, achieving the freedom is what counts, not how one gets it.

                            Thank you.

                            --sf--

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by MeJustMe View Post
                              The only things I will say further on this discussion is firstly by anyone replying to Spirit's posts they are just providing entertainment for him, and adding fuel to the fire. Nothing is gained for anyone here or the newcomer to this forum. All they will see is the friction. Let the tumbleweeds roll past Spirit's posts and the message will be clear; his posts are fractious at best.
                              As for the point about AF and continued drinking -- well, if you can continue to drink without cravings and it works, why not post about how it's going? It doesn't bother me as I hope my quest to not drink doesn't bother you. It should not be an issue.
                              I don't mean any offence to those who've responded to S by what I've said above, and frankly not everyone can leave the bait alone. Hell, I've just taken it
                              For the record, MeJustMe, I thought that it might be helpful for others to see just who exactly is responding to my threads. Please do not take offense -I only offer your own words for others to see and understand who my adversaries are:

                              Posted by MEJUSTME (Today 09/27/15):
                              "So the night before last, I drank even more than the night before - more than 2 bottles. Yet though I was really tired yesterday, my hangover was not so bad. Last night, I thought to myself, 'oh well, here we go again' and poured a drink. I had 3-4 sips and felt hungry (I hadn't had lunch). So I ate a bit, and I had zero interest in drinking any more (I was already struggling to drink even before eating). I gave the drink to my wife as I barely touched it, and did not drink any more last night. I am a bit wary of saying I've hit the switch, but I must be close. That is a really, really good thing."

                              Quite clearly, I can understand from your vantage point why that "not drinking" idea may not be such a good idea after all. MeJustMe, having less than a horrible hangover certainly gives rise to the option that continued drinking while trying to quit is a great solution. Perfect. That Baclofen switch point is right around the corner.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Spiritfree View Post
                                (PS: Neva -this will not be the first time that you have 'left' MWO and I do not think that it will be your last.
                                Originally posted by Spiritfree
                                Ok NE - you win. My wife just told me that i sound more childish than all of you put together. As such, I will no longer post to this thread. Ok. Signing out.
                                -tk
                                TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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