I'm leaving My Way Out

[Spiritfree]

-tk

You got me again TK. Busted.

TK, post those pictures of yourself on vacation again -you know the ones (the pictures that you deleted the following sober day). LOL TK.

Congrats again on your indifference celebration.

TK, I must have to admit, that if I were a newcomer and considering baclofen, I never would have tried baclofen to begin with -never. You landed in the emergency room, strapped down, and insane as a result of taking just a little too much baclofen too quickly. What the heck Terry? Finally, after 6 or 7 months of suffering side effects from Baclofen, you become "indifferent?" to alcohol? Terry, I just do not think that you are going to sell a whole lot of Baclofen to very many people with your personal report -but at least you are trying.

Terry, you of all people, should understand how tragic it is to continue to promote drinking while taking a medication to stop drinking. You say that you do not promote either method, but why not?

[Spiritfree]

I am sure this site gets ad money for the number of clicks it gets. It's hard to believe they would let one troll shut down a whole section, but I am all for shutting the meds section down. Hope to see you all soon.

Poink -your site is never going to make it because it is only about "Baclofen for Alcoholism". Too many people can not withstand the side effects of Baclofen while trying to quit drinking. I wish you well, but please try and understand what I am trying to point out to you. Facts -not fiction.



Ne's site will totally different than your current site or proposed site. If I am correct, she is trying to create a 'safe haven' type of forum for those who continue to drink and try to take Baclofen-unsuccessfully, but still want to quit -which might just be a good thing for those who just will not stop drinking.

[terryk]

You got me again TK. Busted.

TK, post those pictures of yourself on vacation again -you know the ones (the pictures that you deleted the following sober day). LOL TK.

Are you talking about the picture I posted a couple of days before your complete meltdown on December 21, 2014 (recounted here)?

The one that was that was met with a daft reply from another "new poster" complete with themes and punctuation that were suspiciously similar to yours and bacfen's?

Buenos dias pinche gueyes!

Hey *name redacted*, just dropping by to assure you that It.Gets.Better.

5 years ago, I was in a very dark place. Today, quite literally, I'm here, right *now*, and sober:



(No shit, that's my finger)

Saving all the money I used to spend on beer and scotch buys me and the missus a week here and there at a nice, warm place in the sun.

It does get better, *name redacted*, and when I get back i'll see if there's anything I can do to make it better around here.

-tk

TK - thank u for this post. i can only hope that one day i can go on this type of luxury trip even if i am drinking. it sounds to me like u are a mow hero-savior. i am glad. i was worried about this cause i just started postin and it went quiet. i wanted to keep drinking like *name redacted2*and *name redacted* but i just don't think that is going to work for me. and reading there stuff sure don't make me thin they been drinking so that is good thing. what i want to do is go on a vacation like u and be able to drink or not drink. i am very sorry that *name redacted*is not posting. after reading his-her thread from the beginning it sounds like he-she has been in ruff shape for over seven months now and she is still mad at his-her boss boss, and is still drinking lots even with a bunch of baclofe. so tk guess what I want to ask is how time does it take to get better. what do I have to do?

And finally, before I get totally wiped from my way out -here is what we have. First, we have that this person (*name redacted*) who has been trolling each of you for so long. For 8 months she has been trying to get 'sober'. She experiences the same damn things that she did from the beginning. She hates her job/boss/life. Been on Baclofen for nine months or more. Same story almost every day. Hates boss -hates life. You individually feed her to take more or less baclofen. Yes, this works, right?

It was a *single* photo - I was sober when I took it, posted it, and took it down - and it wasn't the next day, more like a week and a half later.

This is only natural and logical and must be expected and accepted as a result of the brain damage caused by alcohol.

If *anyone* around here should be concerned about brain damage and addressing it immediately with their doctor, it's you. I honestly, truly, *even beyond words* hope you get the help you need soon (not lol, nk). -tk

[badger]

Now please, for the sake of the others, the forum, and me -stop badgering/ottering me.

do they have irony where you're from?

[Guitarista]

To the OP and/or admin, please close this thread down. It is destructive and negative. Thanks.

[terryk]

To the OP and/or admin, please close this thread down. It is destructive and negative. Thanks.

If there were administrators paying attention to this site, this thread would never have been started.

-tk

[StuckinLA]

This thread is both a statement of one longtime poster's decision to leave MWO and simultaneously an illustration of why she made that decision. It truly couldn't have worked out any more perfectly.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Folks, I'm working on it. My friend has agreed to do it, though he says it's a lot of work and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, we'll have a safe haven without the troll. That I promise. Even if it doesn't work, even if no one participates...It's worth it to me to try one more time.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Oh. I have two things I need to correct from Spiritwolf/Spiritfree's posts.

The first is that he did indeed try baclofen because of our posts, and for years I received from him his most profound thanks for helping him through it all. Both publicly, on this forum, and privately via PM and email. My position has not changed over the years. His has.

The irony that you mentioned Roberta Jewell as promoting abstinence is profound and infuriating. If you'd actually read her book, or any of her posts, you would know that the entire book promotes MODERATION. So ridiculous that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and yet you continue to do it.

[Colin]

Anyway, enough about me.

A long goodbye huh.

Just sayin'.

[Spiritfree]

Hi NE -

It is my opinion that you started this thread with the direct intention of harming MWO and me.

Had your true intentions been to start a new site and be rid of me, you would have:
(1) Emailed or sent private messages to your followers/friends letting them know that you were starting a new forum, and
(2) You would not have used any one person as an excuse for doing so.

NE, why do you even bother to respond to anything that I write if I am such a....???? Ignore me and do not make posts referring to me. Each of us are doing the very best that we can with what have at any given moment in time. There is absolutely no reason to ridicule or use obscenities when one wishes to address another person or speak about that person -no matter who they are or what your opinion of them might be. As I have suggested to you before-personally, and I still believe it to be the truth today, you have somewhat of a leadership role on this forum, and as such, please consider using your role to help others and not simply to hurt me or the forum. You can create true unity, fellowship, and support by simply ignoring me (not making posts about me nor responding to me) and posting information that you deem relative.

Ne, just give it some thought and, for the record, I will always be thankful to you for helping me early on with Baclofen (and not just you, but a group of several others). Ne, I do not to go onto someone else's thread and express my opinion unless he/she has mentioned me in their post. The times that I have made posts on others' thread were in someway trying to be supportive -and I think that you already know this. (Ne, why did you and TK not start your own forum before now? If your opinions and perceptions are the only relevant ones, you two must continue with your plans -but please stop trying to hurt MWO in the process -its not your own site/forum.)

G-man, you are correct in my opinion -this thread does need to be shut down. I will, however, have to say this; the medication site was not getting much activity until NE started back on MWO and posting -and creating controversial posts. Unfortunately for me, she elected/elects to use me as the center of her scapegoating. WTH -it is what is -I guess?.

[Spiritfree]

Final thought NE and TK, before this thread gets shut down, and it will get shut down; regardless of how much you despise me and prefer that I not be allowed on the forum, have you stopped to think about the fact that I at least contribute my helping each of us to look at our own situations and what we are trying to achieve? Will you please stop and consider the fact that a bunch of people "patting" each other on the back while they continue to drink does not do much good for anyone -newcomers or existing members?

We, the majority of alcoholics are notorious for 'thinking' that our way is the only way. This thinking, in and of itself, has caused all of us much harm at times during our lives. There is one fact that does exist, and it is obvious and you already know this, one can not stop drinking if one continues to drink. If one is trying to moderate, one is still not free.

[dundrinkn]

Omg. SpiritF. You crack me up. There really is nothing left to do but laugh in the face of your delusions. Hahahaha. Thanks for that. I feel better.

[dundrinkn]

Hey SpiritF. When's the thread getting shut down? Just wondering.

[YouKayBee]

I had to speak to a repetitive drunk on the phone yesterday, they went around in circles and didn't get it at all. Then repeated that they were such a nice person, followed by more accusations and ramblings. They kept calling my name and I realised they were doing it so I could be like a lap dog.

In the end I had to put down the phone. Of course they told me I was taking power by ending the call, well I could have put up with hours of that rambling and I definitely didn't feel powerful.