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    Logotherapy

    I want to post something positive which might help, other than drugs. I read about logotherapy at the lowest point in this battle against alcoholism. I don't think we have ever had the opportunity to try it but I am going to see if I can make it work.



    "Logotherapy is an internationally acknowledged and empirically based, meaning-centred, existential approach to psychotherapy. ???Logos?? is here translated as ???meaning?? or ???spirit?? but understood in the non-religious sense.



    Logotherapy and existential analysis (LTEA) was developed by the Austrian psychiatrist, neurologist, and philosopher Dr. Viktor E. Frankl. MD., PhD. (1905-1997). It focuses on the will to meaning. As a holocaust survivor, and author of the international bestseller Man??s Search for Meaning (voted one of the ten most influential books ever written) Frankl contends that the striving to find meaning and purpose in one??s life is the primary and most powerful motivational force in man.



    Logotherapy helps individuals to transcend the self and to use the triumphant power of the human spirit in order to face suffering, loss, tragedy, pain, inner emptiness, and perceived meaninglessness ??? what Frankl calls the ???existential vacuum??. Frankl??s vision and perspective includes a message of hope for mankind, fostering an attitude of ???tragic optimism?? in the midst of life??s vicissitudes and vagaries. He views the human person as being in three dimensions: body, mind and spirit, and according to Frankl, the spirit can never be sick. There is always something intact even in illness, which he calls the ???noetic?? core of the person.



    This unique approach to therapy is suitable for those who have identifiable symptoms such as phobias, stuttering, sexual dysfunctions, obsessive-compulsions, anxieties, depression etc. and for those people questioning or exploring the meaning of life and experiencing meaninglessness, boredom or despair or simply feel that they have not reached their potential or perceive they are leading an unfulfilled life.



    Unlike most of the other psychotherapies, Frankl focuses on the healthy, spiritual core of man and garnishes his inner resources of healing. Logotherapy, so, is a healing through meaning. The basic assumptions of logotherapy are the following: life has meaning under all circumstances even the most miserable; people have a ???will to meaning??; and people are free to activate this will to meaning and find meaning in life even in the most miserable of circumstances.



    The human being consists of body (soma), mind (psyche) and spirit (no?s); this is known as his ???tri-dimensional ontology??. Frankl was both a scientist and a philosopher. The attributes of this noetic core are: Responsibility, Authenticity, Choices, Values, Self-transcendence, Will to meaning, Love, and Conscience.



    According to Frankl, there are three main ways through we may find meaning in life: Creativity (giving something to the world through self-expression), Experience (receiving something from the world through nature or culture or the environment), and Attitude (changing our mental attitude toward a condition especially if confronted with unavoidable suffering).



    Frankl distinguishes between two different meanings: firstly, you have the ???meaning of the moment?? ??? these are the innumerable demands life imposes on us at every minute of our lives and which call for answers and choices, and secondly, ???ultimate meaning?? ??? this may only be glimpsed; it may be God or the search for the true, the good or the beautiful. It is beyond our comprehension.



    Life requires something of us and we must respond to life??s questions; this is the call or summons. We do this by discerning the meaning of the moment and making responsible decisions; at the level of the drives we are driven but at the level of the spirit we decide. Our guidance comes from the intuitive and creative, though fallible, voice of conscience within us, what Frankl calls a ???hint from Heaven??.



    According to Frankl, life does not owe us happiness; rather it offers us meaning. Happiness is a by-product, a side-effect, of our search for meaning, as is health and wealth too. Happiness, he teaches, must not be pursued, rather it must ensue and this is more likely when we forget about it.

    The lack of meaning in life results in what Frankl calls the ???existential vaccum?? which is a state of boredom and apathy, of ennui and inertia; if this state persists it may progress into an existential frustration and result in a ???noogenic neurosis??. We try to fill the void with drugs, drink, food, violence but ultimately remain unfulfilled and lost.



    Life is dynamic and we are confronted with what Frankl calls the ???tragic triad?? of suffering, guilt and death. Often we are required to change our attitude in order to find meaning. To Freud??s ???cheerful pessimism?? Frankl offers a vision of ???tragic optimism?? ??? one that doesn??t deny the tragic dimensions of human existence but which looks to healing and forgiveness, to health and meaning and life so that tragedy may be transformed into triumph.







    The medicine chest of logotherapy looks to our noetic (spiritual) core for health and healing. There the triumphant or ???defiant power of the human spirit?? is activated and brought to bear on life??s various challenges and tasks. It is through self-transcendence ??? going out to others in love or service ??? that the meaning of our existence is revealed.



    The logotherapist??s main clinical tool is ???Socratic dialogue?? where the logotherapist and the client together explore areas of meaning while realising that meaning cannot be prescribed, only described, and discovered. It also employs other techniques such as ???dereflection?? and ???paradoxical intention??. Dereflection stops hyperintention; here the emphasis is outward and away from the ego towards the world out there. It is not distraction but an inner monologue we have with ourselves which serves self-transcendence. It involves a radical reorientation of our desires, towards something Other.



    Paradoxical intention involves wishing to have happen the thing we fear most. So, for example, if we think we are going to tremble when walking over to the lectern to speak or if we think we are going to sweat we are instructed to will that, not to fight it as desire cancels out fear. Of course it is far more complicated than this and these techniques are particularly powerful and have a huge success rate. They may be used in phobias, anxiety disorders, insomnia, and many other cases.



    Frankl??s logotherapy is a philosophy of life and can be employed with beneficial effect in every profession and walk of life. It is used, not only by therapists, but by teachers, nurses, doctors, ministers and business managers. Whatever about our past, our future is shaped by the choices we make today."



    About the author:

    Dr. Stephen J. Costello is a philosopher, logotherapist/existential analyst and author. He is the founder and director of the Viktor Frankl Institute of Ireland. Stephen has been lecturing philosophy and psychology for over twenty years in UCD, Trinity College, and Dublin Business School.

    logotherapyireland.com
    BACLOFENISTA

    baclofenuk.com

    http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





    Olivier Ameisen

    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

    #2
    Very interesting. I took early retirement a few years back and boredom and a sense of purposelessness has been an issue for me I have to admit. Drinking blots that out, though it makes it worse the next day of course.

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      #3
      Powerful stuff. I tried to cut & paste the paragraph on happiness but my IT skills weren't up to it. That one paragraph says so much about what is wrong with modern life & its pursuit of happiness.

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        #4
        Thanks for posting this, Otter. I recently read Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning, and my main take away is in one of your sentences above, "Happiness is a by-product, a side-effect, of our search for meaning", rather than something that can be directly pursued. Also the idea that life requires something from us, something we need to respond to.

        I think No Sugar, and maybe some others recommended the book. So glad you raised the topic.

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          #5
          Just saw this thread! Love the book and approach. His idea that how you got to where you are is so much less relevant than how to move forward (find meaning) can be so useful for anyone struggling with addiction. I'm so happy to see others enthused about logotherapy!

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            #6
            I remember going to court and the court Ushers would say hello and then one kind lady would say "I don't know how you cope". One of them was a near neighbour of ours so knew everything and it got all around the court, clients other lawyers.

            I recall saying that people have had to cope with worse, like being in a concentration camp or Gulag...

            Then I thought to myself. "Really". Living with alcoholism is a kind of imprisonment that gets right into your mind and soul. You take your prison with you and there is no key to get out.

            That was my thinking back then. Our Gastro told me about Frankl so I got the book. I can't say it helped. His work with baclofen helped though, so I owe it to him to post this here. He got us our prescription over 100mg and still keeps up with our progress.

            That is why this recent spate of trolling is so painful and ridiculous. There is already a treatment. Alcoholism research has been going on for years. Naltrexone was approved back in 1978 in a "free" society where every avenue is being pursued by someone, somewhere to find a drug.

            I spent years trying to find an answer and nothing worked. Then along comes baclofen and it truly was a miracle, and still is. It eliminates alcoholism as an addition. Yes, people who take it, or stop taking it, can return to drinking, but that is then their own choice and they can now stop drinking, if they want to. It's a free world!



            So, if anyone wants to come to this "free" and open forum and post stuff which they know is going to get a response, then go ahead. You are right. You do have the freedom to do that. We all have freedom to do things which are sad, irresponsible, hurtful of others. And, in a world where people are "responsible" for their actions, YOU are responsible for YOUR actions and the response you get from others.
            BACLOFENISTA

            baclofenuk.com

            http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





            Olivier Ameisen

            In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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              #7
              bump
              BACLOFENISTA

              baclofenuk.com

              http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





              Olivier Ameisen

              In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                #8
                I also benefitted greatly from Frankl's book, thank you for reminding me. I get caught up in busy life and my goals and forget what my meaning is, no reason to get that urge to drink when I should be working on my goals that really matter, that give me meaning.

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                  #9
                  Otter,

                  When I gave my account here an enema, I got rid of a post of what this thread did for me in March of 2014. I kind of regret getting rid of it- it went something like this:

                  I was withdrawing from abilify, and sank into the deepest depression I'd ever felt. Only the knowledge that it was a drug reaction that would eventually resolve kept me going, but there were three weekends where work and gym appointments weren't there to keep me moving, and I sank into despair on my bed for 16 hours a day. I knew that I wouldn't be alive in 6 months at that rate.

                  This thread was posted. Being a psychology major at one point and knowing about existential therapy originating with this book, I bought it on iTunes- it was worth a shot.

                  I read it overnight, and finished as the sun came up Sunday morning with a total sense of rapture. The anguish was noble now- I had something to live for, knowing that if I had a WHY to get across the finish line, I could define my own dignity no matter how low things got.

                  It would be exaggerating to say that book saved my life- but it got me through the second most difficult night I've ever had. The pain was there but at least I could see it for what it was- now I knew that whatever better things came would taste so much sweeter because I kept going. This was the context by which we know and appreciate the good things.

                  60 days later I was completely off the abilify, in the best physical shape of my life and madly in love. There was no better time to be alive.

                  Thanks Otter

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                    #10
                    Wow...

                    It works then. I haven't really tried it except I used one of the methods in the book yesterday and today my wife is getting better and I got through it ok. I want to sit down again with some of the stuff I found about how it works and see if it can help me because I do have my own issues.

                    I went to psychotherapy a long time ago and it just made me angry so I stopped going.

                    I read the book and I found it incredibly sad to read, very depressing. It didn't give me that good an idea of what the method of it was because I got into the story quite deeply and didn't really think about using the techniques.
                    BACLOFENISTA

                    baclofenuk.com

                    http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                    Olivier Ameisen

                    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                      #11
                      I just posted something and it vanished.



                      The technique works then? I got bogged down in the book which can be depressing read and I wasn't in a position to do much else but I want to try the methods he described.



                      My wife has stopped drinking...after I gave her baclofen.
                      BACLOFENISTA

                      baclofenuk.com

                      http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                      Olivier Ameisen

                      In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                        #12
                        Hey Otter



                        In your first post you mentioned the author: Dr. Stephen J. Costello.

                        I may have missed it but what's the book title?



                        Knobert

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                          #13
                          He is just the author of the article I posted.

                          The book on Logotherapy is Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl.
                          BACLOFENISTA

                          baclofenuk.com

                          http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                          Olivier Ameisen

                          In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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