Here I come again?

[Stevo]

About to crash here and I have had no real cravings,not even a thought.

Good day here and I am looking forward to waking up to relative normality.Nothing really happened today,so not much to say.

Hoping that all are well.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Great news, Stevo. Glad to hear it. Keep it up!
:hug:

[StuckinLA]

For me indifference was when I might every once in a great while think a drink would be fantastic - like, that's a great idea! I'll have a drink after work! - but then I would forget and just go home and do whatever, have a bottle of sparkling water, and then go to bed.

[Stevo]

Fairly eventless day here today,I started work on my next module and did some shopping.

My head is in a good place and I have not wanted to have a drink at all,I am sure that I have become indifferent again.
I have been around people drinking and it doesn't even register as something that I want to do,as discussed in another thread which was today's only hiccup,I guess I see it differently to others(I fully get where Ne and Stuck and others are coming from though)I guess for me it is a little different.I was 2 years abstinent when I picked up a drink again and part of my attraction to baclofen was that I may be able to have a drink with mates on occasion.I guess it's for me atleast that I could break free of the abstinent world which as I have stated many times before,"I found to be a nightmare of its own kind."Other than the 3 week bender that I have just come out of about a week ago baclofen has worked for me exactly as I had hoped.

Apologies if that sounded like a defensive rebuttle,it was not intended that way especially towards both Ne and Stuck(I have appreciated your input and encouragement greatly,along with many others who regularly visit here.)
I think I just felt that I had to put that out there due to a post that appeared on another thread earlier today.

I will not participate in any more ridiculous mud slinging on the fore said thread.

Anyway rant over,today was a good day and I am looking forward to waking up tomorrow feeling even better than today to see what it has in store for me.

I hope all are well...

[Ne/Neva Eva]

My head is in a good place and I have not wanted to have a drink at all,I am sure that I have become indifferent again.

I have been around people drinking and it doesn't even register as something that I want to do,as discussed in another thread which was today's only hiccup,I guess I see it differently to others(I fully get where Ne and Stuck and others are coming from though)I guess for me it is a little different.I was 2 years abstinent when I picked up a drink again and part of my attraction to baclofen was that I may be able to have a drink with mates on occasion.I guess it's for me atleast that I could break free of the abstinent world which as I have stated many times before,"I found to be a nightmare of its own kind."Other than the 3 week bender that I have just come out of about a week ago baclofen has worked for me exactly as I had hoped.

That was my experience, too, Stevo. I could drink if and when I wanted to without repercussions. That said, I drank rarely and almost never got drunk. Part of the reason for that was because baclofen (and indifference) makes drinking, especially over-drinking, unappealing. But part of it was also that I was very wary of relapsing. That's all I was referring to in my previous post.



It worries me when people set aside a time to drink, say on the weekends only, but it happens every weekend. Or when they drink to the point where they get drunk on even a semi-regular basis. To my mind, that means the brain chemistry is still kerfuffled.



After a couple of months of indifference, when I was still drinking semi-regularly, I decided to go completely alcohol free for a month. It was effortless, and it meant a great deal to me to be able to do that. Unlike you, I'd never had 30 days completely abstinent outside of rehab. It strengthened my resolve, and frankly made me feel a whole lot better physically.



It surprised me how much drinking even a little bit affected me physically and mentally, sometimes for days afterward. Which doesn't mean that I was completely abstinent for the almost 4 years that I was indifferent. I enjoyed being able to go out to dinner and have ONE glass of wine. Or to go to a party and not have to completely abstain. On the other hand, I didn't miss it and didn't feel left out if I decided not to drink. (That often happened, too!)



So I hear what you are saying, and I agree that it is up to each of us to make a decision about when and how and how much we drink. Still, new sobriety is hard and alcohol can make it harder. So use with caution!



Glad you're not letting the kerfuffle get you down.



:hug:

[Stevo]

Haven't posted in a week so I thought I had better do an update.

I am still going well,I drank on the weekend as usual and went back to normality on Monday.I had my boys all weekend which was awesome so I didn't drink too much,one carton of beer for the whole weekend.I know that this might sound like a lot but for me it is very tame.
I am eating well and plugging away at my course,I actually got an email earlier today saying that my last module has passed.I am about half way through the next one and then there is only one to go.

I had to make a brochure for a fictional rehabilitation service so I made up a service called "Out of the Box" and the focus of the service was baclofen and therapeutic counselling for addiction,based on evidence based practices.I had to be very careful how I worded everything but I feel that I did a good job.

Not a great deal to say and I hope that all are well,I am enjoying being back in reality and feeling healthy.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Congrats on being half way there, Stevo. And on the weekend. So both boys decided to stay? That's really nice.

I had to make a brochure for a fictional rehabilitation service so I made up a service called "Out of the Box" and the focus of the service was baclofen and therapeutic counselling for addiction,based on evidence based practices.I had to be very careful how I worded everything but I feel that I did a good job.

I would love to read that. Want to send it to me? Neriley1 at gmail. Sounds very cool.

[Stevo]

I will send it to you Ne,I have an issue with sending emails with attachments at the moment because I am using a USB internet device(they just won't send) but next time I am at the library with proper wifi I will shoot an email your way.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

I will send it to you Ne,I have an issue with sending emails with attachments at the moment because I am using a USB internet device(they just won't send) but next time I am at the library with proper wifi I will shoot an email your way.

That would be really great, Stevo. Don't forget, okay? Thanks.

[Stevo]

Haven't posted in a few months,don't drink through your switch.

I am fucked up and can't find a reason not to drink.

Baclofen works until you screw with it,I am thinking at the moment.

Hope all are well.

[frances]

Very sorry to hear that Stevo! I don't know anything about Baclofen but I'm glad you are back and I hope you get to a good place very soon!

[Mom21961]

I'm sorry to hear you're struggling. I fell off the wagon after hitting indifference w.ith Baclofen when I went through a stressful period. I titrated up until I reached indifference again. Good luck! Below is my thread about my experience.

Struggling after being happily indifferent thanks to Baclofen - General Discussions - The End of my Addiction

Mom2

[Choices]

Sorry your struggling Stevo.. I hadn't posted in a few months either.. and face planted with alcohol again. But, I'm here again and hoping to stick around because the support is great. I hope you feel better soon.

[idefineme]

How's it going, Stevo? It would be good to see you check in again!

[Wilson1]

I did not reply to this post before now because I did not want to cause further havoc. I will reply now.

There is so much more to alcoholism (AUD) than just taking a pill that reduces or even eliminates 'cravings'. Brains must be retrained to accept different ways of dealing with every day life.
All of our brains must become accustomed to a totally different way of living -a new way of 'perceiving and reacting'. Currently, there are not single medications that help our brains do this brutal task.
It takes different nutrition intakes, exercise, meditation type exercises, communications with like minded people, etc. There simply is no 'one' pill solution to solve AUD.