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    BACLOFEN - The greatest Alcohol abuse treatment medication to date

    I have started this thread because I hope that this drug may become better recognised in countries other than France (which does seem to support it; at least it's acknowledged there as a treatment).

    I don't know how to spread the word, other than speaking to anyone who I think might have some influence in the medical arena in Australia.

    I know someone who is a professor emeritus in psychiatry, although his area is not addiction. I have mentioned Bac to him on a few occasions and I hope to gently steer him in the direction of Bac research. This might get him talking to colleagues.

    My sister is a GP who works with a part of the community that is susceptible to addiction. Again, I hope to slowly feed her with the research to hopefully persuade her to get her colleagues to consider prescribing Bac.

    My own GP, who reluctantly prescribed Bac only after seeing me sober (after I filled a scrip given by my psych Dr) still sees it as "well, it works for you. It doesn't work for everyone". I keep saying, it works for most people, like 60-70 per cent of people.

    Even the psych, who wrote the first script only at my prompting, said when I saw him much later that it was his third line of defence after naltrexone and campral. When I asked why, he said... wait for it..."It doesn't work for everybody"

    I don't wish to proselytise, but it's a shame that this drug that has done so much for some seemingly can't be used for so many more who could benefit from it..

    #2
    It is still a slow moving process.



    There is a huge increase in use since 2008 when Ameisen published his book. You'll find that most doctors, particularly in alcoholism and Accident and Emergency know about baclofen now so it has become more of an issue of reluctance to use it rather than lack of knowledge.
    BACLOFENISTA

    baclofenuk.com

    http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





    Olivier Ameisen

    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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      #3
      Baclofenman has posted a link on the other forum to an article in The Pharmaceutical Journal, which acknowledges that it is becoming recognised as a treatment for alcoholism, & states that sales of it are rising rapidly. There's no actual recommendations or mention of research, but I'm impressed that pharmacists are aware of it as a treatment.

      MJM - keep up the good work!

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        #4
        Here is the info from Baclofenman:

        Link is

        Baclofen — from standard treatment for spasticity to managing alcoholism | Feature | Pharmaceutical Journal

        The trial to which it refers to is



        Thanks Bacman!
        http://baclofentreatment.com/
        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org
        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org/f...or-alcoholism/

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          #5

          Hey, I feel a little better. The link you posted is to the Journal of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society and I read this in it:

          "French prescribing guidance for use of baclofen in alcoholism treatment has been produced by physicians with extensive experience of the novel approach.12

          12 Gache P, de Beaurepaire R, Jaury P et al. Prescribing guide for baclofen in the treatment of alcoholism. Available at: Baclofen UK World Forum - Prescribing Guide (accessed 7 June 2013)."

          Which is my site and my name is on the Prescribing Guide as the translator. So, maybe things are looking up and people will look at this more seriously.

          Gosh, thanks for the post.

          Edit: Just noticed this was three years ago, of course, but thanks for bringing it to my attention.
          BACLOFENISTA

          baclofenuk.com

          http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





          Olivier Ameisen

          In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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            #6
            France

            France has approved Baclofen for the treatment of alcoholism. The French forum is a treasure trove of information. You can use google translate to read with the link below. It's not perfect, but very good.

            Google Translate

            If you're on an iPad, you may have to scroll down and across. There are three main sections.

            Mom2
            http://baclofentreatment.com/
            http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org
            http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org/f...or-alcoholism/

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mom2JTx3 View Post
              France has approved Baclofen for the treatment of alcoholism. The French forum is a treasure trove of information. You can use google translate to read with the link below. It's not perfect, but very good.

              Google Translate

              If you're on an iPad, you may have to scroll down and across. There are three main sections.

              Mom2
              Hi MomTo3 -long time reader on this site. Why don't you think other countries around the world recognize and promote the use of Baclofen for AUD? You would think that every country in the world jump on board if Baclofen were the real answer.

              Edit: Mom2-3, I just do not find that many success stories coming from people who use Baclofen. I wish this were not the case but it is. I am so glad that science is now working on new models addiction treatment and I am sure that you are too.
              Last edited by Guest; May 10, 2016, 04:49 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by befreenow View Post
                Hi MomTo3 -long time reader on this site. Why don't you think other countries around the world recognize and promote the use of Baclofen for AUD? You would think that every country in the world jump on board if Baclofen were the real answer.

                Edit: Mom2-3, I just do not find that many success stories coming from people who use Baclofen. I wish this were not the case but it is. I am so glad that science is now working on new models addiction treatment and I am sure that you are too.

                Evening....

                Regards


                Bacman
                Last edited by Baclofenman; May 10, 2016, 05:01 PM.
                I am not a Doctor - I am an alcoholic.
                Thoughts expressed here are my own, often poorly put together and littered with atrocious grammar and spelling.

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                  #9
                  12 days.....it was nice while it lasted.

                  -tk
                  TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by befreenow View Post
                    Hi MomTo3 -long time reader on this site. Why don't you think other countries around the world recognize and promote the use of Baclofen for AUD? You would think that every country in the world jump on board if Baclofen were the real answer.

                    Edit: Mom2-3, I just do not find that many success stories coming from people who use Baclofen. I wish this were not the case but it is. I am so glad that science is now working on new models addiction treatment and I am sure that you are too.


                    Hi BFN,

                    There are thousands and thousands of success stories coming out of baclofen. You should join the new forum and you will meet lots of people who have used baclofen. They just don't come here anymore because this site has been trolled to death by a complete idiot.
                    BACLOFENISTA

                    baclofenuk.com

                    http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                    Olivier Ameisen

                    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by befreenow View Post
                      Hi MomTo3 -long time reader on this site. Why don't you think other countries around the world recognize and promote the use of Baclofen for AUD? You would think that every country in the world jump on board if Baclofen were the real answer.



                      Edit: Mom2-3, I just do not find that many success stories coming from people who use Baclofen. I wish this were not the case but it is. I am so glad that science is now working on new models addiction treatment and I am sure that you are too.


                      The answer to that is that question is that baclofen is already approved in every country around the world and is being used by doctors everywhere to treat alcoholism. It is used "off-licence". George Koob, the head of the US NIH alcohol section, is following developments in France where there is already a temporary license for baclofen as an alcohol treatment.



                      It's just the way things have developed with baclofen being a generic.



                      I don't want to offend you but "countries" don't get involved in the promotion of drugs through the licensing process. That is done by private companies and because baclofen is a generic, no pharmaceutical company would pay to get a licence for baclofen because it isn't under patent. Any money they spent on getting it licensed would end up being spent on a product which any company could then market for alcoholism. They will only take on the cost of getting the license if they have the patent and will get the money back because only they can market the product.
                      BACLOFENISTA

                      baclofenuk.com

                      http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                      Olivier Ameisen

                      In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                        #12
                        Otter, I think BFN is a new name for an old "friend" of ours on this website - see terryk's post

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Otter View Post
                          Hi BFN,

                          There are thousands and thousands of success stories coming out of baclofen. You should join the new forum and you will meet lots of people who have used baclofen. They just don't come here anymore because this site has been trolled to death by a complete idiot.
                          Thanks for your reply Otter. I guess that I have not found many USA success stories or any others regarding Baclofen on this site, or you tube or anywhere else. I am certain it must bei helping some because of the talk about it on this forum.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by befreenow View Post
                            Thanks for your reply Otter. I guess that I have not found many USA success stories or any others regarding Baclofen on this site, or you tube or anywhere else. I am certain it must bei helping some because of the talk about it on this forum.
                            .......
                            I am not a Doctor - I am an alcoholic.
                            Thoughts expressed here are my own, often poorly put together and littered with atrocious grammar and spelling.

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                              #15
                              He underestimates us by being stupid.
                              Enlightened by MWO

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