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[startingover]

Finding it incredibly hard to quit...

Dan, that is fantastic you have gone 2 days! Big pat on the back for you!!!. I really would recommend you try the supplements recommended. They have helped me no end. I have read the MWO book and I am just reading the Allen Carr book. All these things are giving me strength to keep going. I hope that they help you too.
Best wishes
Startingover

[Prodigal Son]

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Do it on your own terms, Danos. If you can do the weekend, you can do the week, & so on to thirty days. It's about aquiring a new set of skills. I've still got all my old booze around the house as I like to give it the one finger salute on a regular basis. You sound like a really intelligent guy. Stick with us!

[Karl1981]

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Hey Dan,, just saying hello. and welcome.. Im from brisbane australia too..

[Danos]

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I was going so well

I went out rockclimbing today, really pushed myself to the limit and got very hard climbs done. But at the end of the day I was offered a beer and couldn't resist, I didn't get drunk but that's not the point.

I find it especially hard when I've been climbing, as I really don't eat much if anything while climbing, only just enough to survive (400 cal over 8 hours usually), as anything extra draws blood away from the muscles, to go and work in the digestive system. Sounds insane but depending on how hard you are climbing, it can be serious enough as life and death. The downside is massive sugar and carbohydrate cravings, and when you have an alcohol problem.... well

A little disappointed in myself, but tomorrow is another day and I'll try again

[bloggy]

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Dan

I just think its good that you didnt get drunk.

A normal person would think that was insane- but it is a big victory for us.

Any chance of being able to avoid the people or situations where a beer will be offered?

[startingover]

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This might sound daft but would one of those energy drinks take away the sugar craving??
Just a thought.
Well done for not getting drunk though

[bloggy]

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Energy drinks do help me with cravings too, as does the dreaded aspartame laden coca cola light.

[monrose]

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Hello Dan, Its not easy to refuse a cold beer after some hard work, having one of those glutomade drinks might help. I find that having an engery bar after a long bike ride settles my system and feeds my hunger.
I wish you luck. glad that you have to decided to kick this in the butt while you are young.

[Bok]

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Danos, I am a newbie to this too and a fellow aussie - a melbourne girl. I relate to the parent factor. I work extensively in the arts field and am able to 'function' from day to day but am sick of the internal bloody turmoil. The guilt kills me - I want to feel normal. I've read the book and its really inspiring. I also just ordered the supps and the hypno. CDS. Working on finding a GP to prescribe topamax. Please let me know how you are doing. Bok

[Danos]

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Hey guys,

Thanks again for your support.

I am sorry but after my last comment I ran away in shame, pathetically. When I read what I wrote, blaming my alcoholism on my sport, well I just couldnt handle that. I felt not only did I totally bullshit myself, but I was making a fool of the rest of you. I was expecting to come back and see a bunch of 'youre an idiot' comments, but Im glad I didnt.

Ive had my ups and downs, the best up was 17 days clean, the worst was the day after that....drinking 12 beers and a bottle of scotch. If I could blame my drinking on anything, it would be that I am lonely. I have a lot of good friends, I have a great job, and besides my drinking I am incredibly fit and healthy. But my passion for climbing is so much that I never, ever go out, ever... ie very single. I work during the week, and I train on the weekends. The only time I have other than work and training is with myself. Ironically I hate the clubs, so I wont ever go there. Ive just got into the awful habit of drinking alone to pass the time and/or take the edge off. Another great irony is I cant stand girls who smoke, because they are abusing their bodies... hah

I rode 112km today, and rewarded myself with a 12pack of beer. What kind of twisted logic is that?

[A Work in Progress]

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Danos, it isn't "twisted logic." It's a bad habit... a very bad habit. Also known as a compulsive behavior... or addiction... all these labels represent the same problem. It's a problem that has behavioral, cognitive, and emotional components. If you want to put a stop to it, you will need to take a comprehensive approach (wishing, hoping, and will-power are generally not enough). The MWO program is one such approach. Have you read the book? Do you have a plan? Those steps are essential!

Glad you are back!

wip

[startingover]

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Danos, listen to wip she really does know what she's talking about.
My advice to you would be to stick around here. It helps with loneliness I find.
Good to see you back

[Boss.man]

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Danos, definitely try the supplements. What works best for me is 2-Kudzu, 2-L-Glut and 2-St Johns Wort in morning when I wake up, 3pm, and when I go to bed. These help cravings.

You already identified glucose and dehydration issues as triggers. Avoid these by stocking energy drinks and cookies/energy bars in your day pack. That's easy.

Keep it up! Don't be like me. I'm 48 and until last August I had at least 4 drinks every night 365 days a year for the last 30 years.

[gyco]

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hope yur still going strong and if your not try try again,hahahha were with you danos gyco have a good weekend

[vera-b]

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Hi Danos,

Sorry it took me so long to find your thread. Sounds like you need a good plan, then we'll be with you every step of the way. May I suggest you go to the "Just Starting Out" section and read a very good thread by Periwinkle, posted today, titled "Roberta's recipe." Periwinkle is also relatively new, and she found that her somewhat haphazard approach was not as effective as the more comprehensive one Roberta Jewell outlines in her book. RJ's program was one that was multi-faceted to deal with the many aspects of our love/hate affair with the drink. As WIP said so well, a drinker's will power and good intentions are rarely enough. My willpower is weaker than my abdominal muscles (which, at 54 and after a couple of lovely children are not even considered muscles anymore). It was Campral, supps, the hypno cd's, a 4-mile daily walk and the support of this place that has me enjoying the life of alcohol control. As many of us take each day as it comes, you're welcome to join us on the ODAT thread, also in "Just Starting Out." Good luck to you!

Vera-b