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[skootiemom]

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Sigh~ I am too tired to keep this up.
MWO has changed- Wip and others- keep up the good work.
As I am a "looser" that continues to "choose" ( aka 'slip'), I have nothing to contribute.
Newbies- beware- for your own good- do NOT look at any of Skootiemom's posts.
She is a loser.
Not "serious" about giving up the drink.

Thanks.

Skoots out

[Nurseindistress]

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I'll be sorry for this but.....

I shouldn't even post this, because I know I will be sorry. I believe that "intent" is the most important thing. I don't know what WIP's "intent" is, but I believe that she probably means well and is trying to help everyone. She certainly puts enough time into posting here. However, I have stopped reading her posts and just skip through them because I have found them to sound very "preachy and self-righteous" to me, and I don't like that. So, I felt compelled to comment, for some reason--I'm not even sure what. There are 2 sides to every story, and we all have to learn from how we come across, and from how sensitive we are when we perceive things. We all get our feelings hurt too easily in life by what others say and do, when they didn't mean anything by it, and it wastes a lot of emotional energy. I am trying to remember that more, and not to judge. But, maybe if people get their feelings hurt by what we say, we also have to look at how we are presenting things. Just some thoughts, and here I am doing exactly what I say we shouldn't........

[A Work in Progress]

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OK, this is totally silly. Skootie... I have no idea why you decided to believe that I had called you a "loser." Totally a product of your own mind, looking for a way to be insulted... I don't know why. It's a shame, and totally unnecessary. Now you are going on about my viewpoint (which I share with many others) that when we drink (or "slip"), it is indeed a CHOICE, and should be treated as such. It's not an accident. When we begin to take responsibility for our own choices... then we can really start making our lives better. While we still believe that we are the victims of circumstances, then we continue to live in hopelessness and misery.

Nurse, it's great you are learning to "take what you need and leave the rest." I am working on learning that about this online recovery forum, as well. There are plenty of people here, all different sorts... enough for each of us to be annoyed by at least a few others, right? You are obviously annoyed by me. Enough so that you feel it's OK to engage in name-calling about me. Of course I feel sad when I read what you have to say... but that's OK.

I have damn near destroyed my life with my own choices to drink, choices made while I knew full well that it was hurting me and others. I am DETERMINED to never make that kind of choice again. I will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to keep my own thinking, my emotions, and my behavior aligned in a direction pointed always at recovery from alcohol dependence. Right now, that includes being here at MWO and posting, and reading, a lot. And I will not let you or anybody else run me out of here with the negative posts you direct at me.

[peacenik]

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whatever folks are reading into wip's posts are their choices as well.
i find most if not all of her posts to be enlightening and helpful in keeping me on track. not only on track but in a direction i want and chose to go in. i don't believe i read her calling any one person a loser and if some take it that way, i think it says alot about how they feel about the choices they themselves are making.

sorry to interrupt.

peace

[peacenik]

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choose to believe...your name says it all...i think choosing a plan, choosing not to drink, choosing that you are worth sobriety and choosing alternatives to drink are the ways out for me. i feel empowered by my choices, instead of disempowered by my desire to drink. of course it is not easy and of course i am struggling, but having other outlets and a backup plan really help one to choose to believe in being able to overcome this crappy burden of alcoholism.

my best wishes to you, i hope you continue to reach out in spite of us posting about other things in your thread...

take good care darlin, we are here.


peace

[nancy]

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I wasn't going to comment on this, so as to avoid further drama and I don't like it when things get personal.

I think that WIP offers so many valuable to this website.

I can see that some might be offended that she advises people to stick with the "winners." That doesn't mean everyone else is loser but it's a bit dismissive and implies she doesn't think it's helpful to read a lot of posts by people who are not committed to abstinence. Maybe that is her own experience as she said she has said she herself has been struggling lately. Maybe she thinks it's enabling drinking to accept a lot of slips and could influence people to think that's ok. That's a reasonable opinion to have though I am not influenced that way when I read posts from people struggling, and yes I believe that if you are not succeeding, you are struggling.

Let's not be too thin-skinnned about it even though I can see how it would irritate some.

[shirazgirl]

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As long as we have a desire to quit drinking, there is always hope for us. Giving up on ourselves is what brings a downward spiral. Look in the mirror and know you are worth saving. Tell yourself that out loud. It may sound strange but it works. The most powerful voice to hear is our own!

[Bonbon]

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Personally, I've found WIP's posts to be very motivating and they've helped to keep me focused. It depends what sort of person you are, I suppose - I work better if someone is more motivated than I am - I'm competitive with myself and am spurred on if someone's doing better. It's like dieting, isn't it? If someone is saying 'No, I'm not going to eat that - I'm determined to lose weight' then I'm far more likely to respond by doing likewise. She didn't say other people were failures - I took it to mean she wanted to stick with people who were fighting to win, rather than with people who were half-hearted, and that she was doing that because she felt it would help her overcome her problem.

[shirazgirl]

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A Work in Progress;545323 wrote: You do it your way... I'll do it mine.

I think that this sums it up. Have a sober Friday night everyone!

[ChooseToBelieve]

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I'M BACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

All,

I have been lost the past few days. I had a feeling that if I logged on here that I would see that you were with me, and I was right. Since posting my plea for your support, I see that I had 21 responses. You all bring tears to my eyes. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I am ready to start anew and I see that you are with me!

THANKS SO MUCH !!!! I am not alone, you are with me and it makes all the difference in the world!

eternally grateful,

ChooseToBelieve

[llsadaa1]

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I was sober for 10 years until Dec of 2007 and I have relapsed 3 times in 2008. I lost my job, my house and filed bankruptcy. I have been sober for 4 mos. now because I work the program in AA. If the meeting you went to was not good find another. It's hard work to stay sober. My ? is have you really accepted that you are an alcoholic and you really want to quit.

[llsadaa1]

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[Guest]

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Help friends, please pull me out
That's the title of this thread.

I sincerely hope you had some help from your friends in their response to this post.


I wonder if it would be helpful to have a thread where people could go to discuss with other forum members methods of communication so a thread could stay clear for the information the thread originator was seeking. I am not being facetious, it may be a help and give a forum to the discussion of vocabulary and interpretations:rays:"

[aprilmoon]

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ChooseToBelieve;545284 wrote: Hi, was sober for three months but then sank into the muck. Tomorrow, need to climb out of it and need your help. Have been to the local AA and see that it is populated with all the local perverts and drug-dealers, so feel unsafe there. Please, all, tell me how you succeeded. That would help a lot.

I think we are just trying to succeed...At least that is what I am doing. I wish you the best!

[llsadaa1]

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I was sober for 10 years and fell back into the muck. I now am going on 5 mos. I asked myself do I want to live or do I want to die . Continue use of booze/drugs will kill you emotionally, physically and spiritually. If you have not made the commitment to yourself that you want to stop or admitted to yourself that booze has taken control of your life, you're not ready. Try another AA. I go 3 times a week and like you say there are drug dealers., maybe perverts etc. but they are there because they suffer from the same disease that we do and want to quit. Listen to the stories and take what you want and need and then leave the rest. We do not have the rite to judge anyone, your higher power only has the right.