Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Sinclair Method

crown86;786563 wrote: I know for me I can't stop after a couple because well hmm I fought this damn word for a long time ..ugh..I am an alcoholic. After two drinks the buzzer in my brain goes off and it like ok this feels great, if i drink a little more I will fell even better. Then I used to spend the rest of the night chasing and so called maintaining that euphoric high. All I ever did was knock back about 20 drinks and go over the edge like a puppy chasing a butterfly. Except I became a monster and not a puppy.

I have been doing the sinclaire method now for over a month and the results for me are amazing. I now can stop after one or two without effort 90% of the time and have not made it past 5-6 drinks in the last few weeks with no effort on my part. With the holidays and a fresh break-up with a girl I was engaged to, ended on her part by my drinking prior to tsm, the time was right to black out for 2-3 weeks. With naltrexone and the sinclaire method I went to bed every night sober or just slightly buzzed that I would call it sober by my standard of drunk.

I am not saying it will work for you, there are some it doesnt work for. I have been given a gift from God in my opinion and it has this ex- alter boy on his hands and knees thanking god everynight. It didn't get me back to church..LOL Im such a good catholic drunk.

Anyways, do a search on the sinclaire method and naltrexone and look for the book " The Cure to Alcoholism" Could be a good back up plan. I know for me moderation never worked without TSM.

Good luck in your fight.

I was talking to my brother who struggles with the same issues, and he looked it up on Wikipedia. It is very intriguing. It seems like it may be possible to try just taking the pills by themselves, although I'm sure it works better when you do the whole program together. Thanks so much for sharing.

Best of luck to you, too.

[dee dee]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

moderation is not an option for me who and I trying to fool? myself? I cannot take a sip of the poison.

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

I still have hope - if I take Theanine Serene (GABA and Theanine) and 5-HTP 1/2 hr or so beforehand I can stop at 1 or 2. But I have to be motivated to take the stuff in the first place. I think if I take the supps and this other stuff regularly it will prevent the really rebellious cravings from setting in, the ones that prevent me from taking preventive action. That sounds kind of redundant...triple prevention? We'll see if I am fooling myself...

So, I made it almost 3 days this time, but since I know I can go much longer, that's not the thing I have to prove to myself...it's the occasional/mod thing that's hard.

Take care...

[jessie]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

I'm going to google the Sinclair method now. I'm having a bad time today.
Thank you.

[jessie]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Now I'm even more confused - how to decide on which medication. I'll have to spend a couple of hours doing research

[brightlite]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

There is a ton of information on the Meds thread for TSM with Naltrexone and also Baclofen. It's a lot to read through, but worth it. Good luck.

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

jessie;787129 wrote: Now I'm even more confused - how to decide on which medication. I'll have to spend a couple of hours doing research

Good luck Jessie - sorry to confuse you even more! But hopefully you'll find something that works for you...everyone is different.

[crown86]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

here is the link for the sinclaire method forum to you guys get more info thesinclairmethod.com • Index page

The two main drungs seem to be baclofen - which I have never taken - and naltrexone. Some are combining the two with great results.

I am definitly no doctor and have no medical recomendations. Me personally I did't go the route of an md because I did not want alcoholism on my medical records. I figured if I was playing with fire with the amount of booze consumed how could a pill hurt me.

Hope this link helps

[savon19]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

JUST my opinion (again!)... but it seems strange to have to take pills in order to be able to have "just" a couple drinks. Maybe I'm missing something!

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Well, yes, it is strange in a way, but an effort to try to deal with alcohol like "normal" people without having to give it up completely, and it works for some people and not others I guess.

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Anyway, I'm doing a lot better. Mostly AF all week. Thu and Fri I had 2. Taking supps and vitamins and listening to the cds. AL is losing its appeal.

[brittzak]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

YOu know I have had several months of off and on again sobriety. The reason is because I kept fighting myself. I kept trying to figue out WHY and fighting that I was to strong of a person for this to be a problem forever...I mean get real..I left home at 16, finished high school and college...all on my own. I have 2 children and I am successful at work...how could alcohol beat me? Honey it damn near destroyed me!!!!! I no longer try to figure out WHY or think OMG I will never drink...I stopped fighting myself. I just said ya know what...I am not puking my guts out daily, my kids arent looking at me like I am a piece of crap, no one has asked why I look so bad......this life I can actually live with...keep fighting, one day it just clicks..

[crown86]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Savon19

I know what your thinking about a "few" drinks..because so did I when I found TSM. I thought the same thing - addict still practicing.

From what I read this program is truly not for anyone whom is abstinent. To all that are abstienent I envy you for being able to quit without drugs like naltrexone. Also if you are abstinent I would not recomend trying this as a way to control your drinking because their are plenty of people it does not work for and they still suffering emensily. Godforbid you try TSM and it doesnt work for you. You could be right back in the bottle or dead.

For me, I was at a point I was ready to give up and literally drink myself to death. I honestly didn't care and felt I would be better of dead. I tried cold turkey and made it a little over 30 days and then fell off the wagon and resumed my drinking at the same levels overnight.

For me and this is ONLY for me- I was not going to AA. I spent 10ish years there in my youth all completely sober and it simply not for me. I am not knocking it in any way shape or form. I have several friends today from my program days and family members to know it works if you want it to. I knew I would be dead if AA was the only way. I knew I would just constantly relapse. I know myself too well.

I wanted out of hell. A forum member here turned me on to TSM and I bought the book and the science behind the drug made too much sense for me NOT to try it. I figured I had nothing to lose. I tried cold turkey abstinence and failed and my self esteem with abstinence was shot. I simply could not see my self as abstienent.

One of the first things I thought of when I read up on TSM - gotta love an addict - Was HELL YEAH I can still drink. My thinking, being into the 7th week of TSM, has done a 180. I am not ready for abstinence yet but I can see Naltrexone taking me there in the near future with minimal effort and all out of MY choice. To date it has broken the powerful control the bottle has had over me for years and given me my life back. A wreck of a life from the damage booze had done, but completely fixable, and without the insane quantities of alcohol flowing thru me, and most importantly, the motivation to fix my life.I have had NOT ONE crazy alcohol related incedence or hurt anyone close to me because I was under the influence. THIS IS A MIRACLE because it was a weekly occurence for years. My middle name was I"MSORRY.My tolerance has been obliterated. Alcohol from an alcoholic standpoint of getting drunk is losing all enjoyment to the almost the point of why drink.

In my opinion, If a person is in hell from alcoholism and they truly want to try to quit but REFUSE or CAN NOT become abstienent, it's worth a shot. It's better than nothing and to continue drinking at their current levels.

For me I feel TSM has saved my life. I am not endorsing or recommending anyone try it. Similar to a thing in AA, I am simply sharing MY experience with Naltrexone and if it saves someones life or frees them from the hell of alcoholism thats awsome.



TSM is highly recommened to be under the care of an MD and their are several out there who are familar with this method of treatment.

[cpn1004]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Agapanthus,
I know the feeling. One day at a time works for me. I know that seems simple, trite, or whatever. But it is overwhelming to me to think of "never having a drink" so I choose the next 24 hours.

[agapanthus]

Why can't I just stop at noe or two? What's wrong with me?

Crown86,

I am so happy for you. That is great.