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[byebyebridgetjones]

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Recently we traced a member via the police, just through providing them with a mobile phone number. The police were very prompt. Do you have any details, numbers etc.?

[Popeye]

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byebyebridgetjones;914990 wrote: Recently we traced a member via the police, just through providing them with a mobile phone number. The police were very prompt. Do you have any details, numbers etc.?

I don't Bridget, I only know her first name and that she lives in London but I had a couple of PM's from her very late last night and she says she's OK.

I hope she wakes in a better frame of mind today.
Thanks for your concern

[Guitarista]

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Popeye;915092 wrote: I don't Bridget, I only know her first name and that she lives in London but I had a couple of PM's from her very late last night and she says she's OK.

I hope she wakes in a better frame of mind today.
Thanks for your concern

She's ok now? Thank's for the update.

[Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)]

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I think we have been here before with other members. Now before anyone jumps down my throat I am not judging or condemning anyone. I just want to make the point that it is not fair to do something like this to any other members here, we are not qualified to help when somebody expresses that they are going to commit suicide. It is very upsetting for all concerned to be placed in such a position, being totally helpless and unable even to point the authorities, the real help, in the right direction.
I also know that for somebody to get to this stage in their life they are not thinking straight and do need immediate assistance. There is a lot of help out there and many hotlines manned 24/7 where their call is taken seriously and help is dispatched in whatever form that may be.
I am glad Bella is ok, really I am and I am honestly not wishing to dissuade anyone from asking for help, it is the cry for help then disappearing that I find disturbing. It places the person in receipt in any impossible position. I am just asking that they pick up the phone as well as posting. Personally our family has been touched by suicide at a young age so I know only too well the devastation left behind.

[stirly-girly]

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KTAB, it happened to me a couple of months after I joined MWO. A member posted that she was thinking about suicide and I went to chat with her. I was trying to talk her into calling a friend or family member or someone to come and stay with her. Asking her to be calm and call someone for help. We chatted for a while and then she must have gone to lie down or something, anyway, she just disappeared. I was so afraid that she was going to go through with what she said and I didn't know what to do. I knew from her profile what country she lived in but nothing more. I PM'd another member who said that it was something that had happened before and that there was nothing I could do. Which was true because this person wasn't a regular poster and I didn't know who at MWO might know some details like her real name, so I couldn't contact anyone. It really shook me up tho' because I was really worried that she might have gone through with it. So, as I have said other times, perhaps it would be a good idea if these people who sometimes post or PM about suicide, gave their telephone number to another member so that the police or some organization could be contacted if necessary.

[Marshy]

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KTAB - I agree with you. It's not fair to post/PM something like that and then disappear.
Helplines for different countries are posted on this site, and everyone knows who to call in their own country anyway.

[greeneyes]

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Marshy;915218 wrote: KTAB - I agree with you. It's not fair to post/PM something like that and then disappear.
Helplines for different countries are posted on this site, and everyone knows who to call in their own country anyway.

They are? Where?

I see. In a Roberta Sticky in Need Help ASAP. Good to know!

https://www.mywayout.org/community/f7...wal-13412.html

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https://www.mywayout.org/community/f7...wal-13412.html

[wannachange]

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"Life's circumstances are not always what you might wish them to be. The pattern of life does not necessarily go as you plan. Beyond any understanding, you may at times be led in different directions that you never imagined, dreamed, or designed"

I agree with you KTAB, but for people to understand why people commit suicide is beyond teaching because one must truly be there before it actually happens, getting people to phone for help while committing an act is counteractive to say the least as why would they phone for help if they want this way out?

When I was in this place a few months ago I wanted to leave this world, but I have very little recollection why an hour after my last post on here an ambulance arrived at my door while I was very close to causing serious damage to myself.

I do not want to say that this place is a place to go when you are feeling depressed and suicidal, it is not, but it is a place for sanctuary and leads people away from those thoughts, only barely, but enough to prevent the self harm from occurring. However, having said that, during my black time, all I had was this place, all I had were you people, I had absolutely nothing else, so where was I to go?

Even though I did not give a speech or running commentary about my suicide plans there were people here from the subscribers area who read a post I wrote and read between the lines...

I know you were expecting this response from me to this thread (if I ever saw it, which I just happened to stumble in tonight) because I am aware of your views on the subject as your response to my time was reflected to your response here today and I consider you a mighty good friend and a real good guy but I feel the need to let you know that some people do not do this for attention but are actually real and there is where you have to be careful in choosing who is who as lives may depend on it.

I am not having a go at you or anyone else, far far from it, I can relate to these posts and know how the person is feeling, luckily this time the author to this thread whom I never met was probably drinking, felt down and decided to get people to feel sorry for her and say she was going to do away with herself, this is wrong of course and I hope brings incentive to the author to kick the habit, usually what happens is the author does not post as he/she does not wish to be saved... so read carefully these calls for help or goodbye threads or even the one liner threads in the general lounge which I seen from time to time as they could well be calls for help from their friends especially if the people here know that here is all they had, lucky for me the people did know this was all I had, I guess if you are here long enough you will learn to know the difference.

All the best,

Wanna

[Guitarista]

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Thank's for your post's, Wanna and KTAB.

[hippie37]

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Due to confidentiality I won't divulge information on a public forum. But I want you to know I have pm'd popeye with some details and I'm going to try and ring Bella tomorrow myself.

Many Blessings
Phil

[Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)]

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wannachange;915623 wrote: I know you were expecting this response from me to this thread (if I ever saw it, which I just happened to stumble in tonight) because I am aware of your views on the subject as your response to my time was reflected to your response here today and I consider you a mighty good friend and a real good guy but I feel the need to let you know that some people do not do this for attention but are actually real and there is where you have to be careful in choosing who is who as lives may depend on it.

Hi Wanna, on the contrary you werent even in my thoughts when I posted this earlier this morning, on that you have my word.

I was in actual fact thinking about the position Popeye found himself in when he first started this thread and empathizing with him and anyone who has been placed there for this has happened several times since I have been a member. Whatever the reasons, to post or PM another member that you have taken an overdose then go offline is regrettable, especially when that person or indeed the authorities have no way of getting back in touch.

I do understand that in posting a suicide threat it may be a cry for help or it may be intended as a farewell. I would take that post extremely seriously and frankly I find it offensive that you suggest otherwise in that I would choose to ignore it. I thought you knew me better than that. I was not trying to discriminate in any way about the reasons and the intent behind a suicide threat post for I like 99% of members, I imagine, are not qualified to judge that persons state of mind.

I mentioned in my earlier post that to have reached this stage the person concerned is obviously not thinking straight, which I suppose on reflection proves your point about their not picking up the phone.

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greeneyes;915224 wrote: They are? Where?

I see. In a Roberta Sticky in Need Help ASAP. Good to know!

https://www.mywayout.org/community/f7...wal-13412.html

I just want to tell you few things about this hotline/hospitals. I have been going through some very, very bad time and most of the people over there have no idea what to do. Unless you are very lucky to get someone on the line who is really professional.
I have found myself many times very lonely in foreign country, desperate with huge alcohol withdrawals. People pretty much just keep giving you different numbers to call.
The other point I want to make, is that I believe life is very, very unfair. I have just moved to the wealthy suburb. Relapsed once and service in hospital was spot on. I mean spot on. Nothing what I have experience when I was living in different areas (hours of wait, plus they treat you like nuisance). Just my two cents.

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[Flip Top]

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hippie37;915647 wrote: Due to confidentiality I won't divulge information on a public forum. But I want you to know I have pm'd popeye with some details and I'm going to try and ring Bella tomorrow myself.

Many Blessings
Phil

Any news on Bella? We have flung a few pm's to one another in the past - She pm'd me about a month ago but she never replied to my reply.

I went to a&e early tues morning due to self harm.

Hope she is ok

[Popeye]

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Hi Flip Top.

I haven't heard from her.
I can only hope she's all right.

Many moons ago, when I was younger and more foolish, I slit my wrist in the belief that the world would be a better place without me. I couldn't find my station in life; my purpose. Drink and stagnation had numbed any feeling and there seemed little point in going on. However, since those days, I have led a life. I have done more and seen more and loved more than I can tell you. There have been days so dark that no way forward could be seen and days I wished would never end. I've learned that nothing is insurmountable and that even the worst days pass and there is always more to seek out and enjoy if we could but find it. Nobody can lead my life for me and I don't have to lead it for anyone else. It's been amazing and I'm glad that I'm still here to witness it all.
I wish you well.
Go grab some good times.