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    #46
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    Flip she's probably right about the depressants, but not for that reason. For the reason that if you are pouring AL into your body you are consuming a liquid depressant, guaranteed to send you down and so the meds do not have a chance to work.

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      #47
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      You have a really good person at your side Flip. Not many people have that kind of support. You have got to try and stay off the AL. I know it's hard but this stuff is driving you nuts
      Be strong-
      We define ourselves by the best that is in us, not the worse that has been done to us.
      Be constructive. Clear the word of CAN'T

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        #48
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        Ukblonde;960431 wrote: Flip

        I'm a born worrier and AL provided me with an escape, however after drinking bouts anxiety levels were even higher. The biochemical explaination is that your nerve endings are sedated under the alcohol, and over time get used to that level of operation. When you remove the AL your nervous activity loses it's blanket of sedation and goes through the roof. Creates a nasty cycle which has to be broken. Unpleasant but does get better eventually. The only way to start treating this is to remove the AL firstly, which requires a huge effort.
        My analogy for what happens in withdrawals, based on what I've felt like, is like cruisng at 120km/h on the freeway, and gearing down to 2nd instead of 4th.

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          #49
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          Hi Flip,
          Hope you are feeling better.

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            #50
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            me too flip...I have been worried about u
            I love my family more than alcohol.:h
            Live in the Solution....not the problem

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              #51
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              I messed up horribly too. I feel awful and hate myself! I drove, have that sick worthless feeling in the pit of my stomach. Im scared this is such a scary horrible feeling, this is the second weekend in a row that Ive done this. Im scared I could harm someone else more so than myself. Why cant I learn my lesson. Ive been in trouble because of drinking and it obviously wasnt enough to scare me straight (DUI)

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                #52
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                kt35;963456 wrote: I messed up horribly too. I feel awful and hate myself! I drove, have that sick worthless feeling in the pit of my stomach. Im scared this is such a scary horrible feeling, this is the second weekend in a row that Ive done this. Im scared I could harm someone else more so than myself. Why cant I learn my lesson. Ive been in trouble because of drinking and it obviously wasnt enough to scare me straight (DUI)
                I know what you are saying i've been in hospital 3 times in the space of a month and 1/2.
                Once I was put in the observation ward.

                Feeling pretty determined to beat this now. Have my first meeting with a counseller on Wednesday at 11am. Feels better that I am going to see someone about it.

                I feel shamed and scared about my last binge. Cant remember alot which is the worst thing.... I got in my partners car yesterday and there was a hospital sick bowl in there and I asked why have you got this in here and she replied that it was for you when I brought you back home the other morning from hospital. I didnt remember I was so out of it...
                Don't Let The Bastards Grind You Down - Eat Them Alive

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                  #53
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                  Guys I mean this in a constructive and caring way, not sure if you have watched these but they show what could be waiting for us all unless we stop this madness.

                  https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9...ary-37717.html
                  Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                    #54
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                    BradyKelly;962246 wrote: My analogy for what happens in withdrawals, based on what I've felt like, is like cruisng at 120km/h on the freeway, and gearing down to 2nd instead of 4th.
                    Yep, I know that feeling. I liken it to doing 120mph in the 30 zone...or, when paralysed with anxiety and having to remind myself to breathe, like doing 30mph in the 120 zone.

                    The pain in your side...left hand side or right? Right suggests grumpy liver.
                    Please hang in there, watch that "Rain In My Heart" doco, and be safe.
                    Mish
                    :h Mish :h
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                    Never give up...
                    GET UP!!!

                    AF since 25th November, 2011

                    What might have been is an abstraction
                    Remaining a perpetual possibility
                    Only in a world of speculation.
                    What might have been and what has been
                    Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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                      #55
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                      Mishmash;963704 wrote:
                      The pain in your side...left hand side or right? Right suggests grumpy liver.
                      Please hang in there, watch that "Rain In My Heart" doco, and be safe.
                      Mish
                      Pain in my side? I don't recall mentioning one, but I have do indeed have one, and fortunately for a change it's in my left side, just ribs. I'm quite familiar with those right side pains. Apparently it's also your ribs that are sore, but because your liver is swollen. Apparently the liver itself doesn't feel pain, which I suppose is true or we would have sore livers a lot more often.

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                        #56
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                        my god....its Flip top. Bella here. I know where u r coming from. It made me ....i relate to where yr coming from. new day, i guess....u get a damn grip man....i have no idea when u sent that thread but but but.....i hope your ok. Bella X

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                          #57
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                          Flip Top! How are you???? Please check in.

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                            #58
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                            yeah flippers...we want to know you are ok
                            I love my family more than alcohol.:h
                            Live in the Solution....not the problem

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                              #59
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                              Hi Flip!
                              Let us know how you are...as you can see, we are thinking about you!
                              K9
                              :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                              Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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