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[dancelot]

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Good points, RC and Stirly. My thoughts exactly.

[NoraC]

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I agree RC & Stirly.

And I really agree with Fennel!!!!
The person that is posting with an alias is an absolute coward. No matter what happened in the past......the fact that you do not have the guts to state your opinion out in the open without hiding behind a mask means that you are a coward. I allow for people to have their own opinions in the world. But, if you have an opinion then at least have the courage to express them honestly. You are a coward - it is not worth Grace giving you a second thought.

[fluff]

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Maybe there is more going on here than we know?...Alter egos -alter identities? To drum up more drama/reaction? Grace can get help- she knows that- my sis went through a lot of abuse and got help-Grace can too.

[Ringing Cedars]

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fluff I'm very glad to hear your sis made it out. I'm not sure of the odds but do know it can be difficult. Just have a look at this page:
what are the odds of leaving an abusive relationship? - Google Search

[fluff]

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My sister died 5 years ago- so this is a tough subject for me. Sorry.

[Ringing Cedars]

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Oh fluff-I'm so sorry. This is exactly why it's ok to talk about our "shit" as it is usually just a layer of why some of us escalate our drinking. We are not therapists, but neither are most people in support groups. I am here to support you and anyone who is trying to find their way out. ((((hugs))))

[fluff]

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It's Okay RC- I just want Grace to know that I am a witness to that part of life- She can get help-and not to forget that -and succumb to life as it is. She has the power to change.

[Ringing Cedars]

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I want Grace to know that too. One step at a time. I've dabbled in allowing abuse and I now how difficult it can be to break free.

[rubywillow]

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This is the first chance I've had to read all this stuff. I'm not going to reveal anything that went on between Grace and me she hasn't, but I was very involved that day, and I'm still very concerned. You all (OK, MOST of you) have made very good points. I'm not going to post everything I know, or feel, about the situation, but it is GLARINGLY apparent help is needed here. I will say, Grace only came back recently because I asked her to, so if someone has a problem with her, take ME on.
There are SO many ways abuse affects people. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind. But nothing is acheived by an attack on a person who SO needs help. IMHO, whatever the truth is, Grace is humiliated.
BTW: Since it was brought up, I was very close to CowGal. I could see the problems, in person, but couldn't help. There was much more to that than many knew. It affected me deeply when she was lost, but in my heart, I can never refuse to help someone who asks me for it, and obviously needs it.

[Ringing Cedars]

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Amen Rubes! They can take me on too!

[fluff]

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Did anyone notice that "Truth Teller"'s posts were deleted?

[Grateful]

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Ruby-I just want to say that I am so glad that you were (and are) there for Grace and at least Grace had the courage to call out for help. Also Zen...who took the time to go into chat with Grace while trying to find you. You both are angels. :l

[Saving Grace]

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I have been accused of many things here.

I do admit what I posted was wrong, but in ways you may not know.

All the other things I've been accused of are not true!
And I considered Cowgirl a MWO friend and was very hurt to hear of her death!

I am being attacked again by the same people.

I had many people who contacted me with concern. I am sorry I have disappointed those who have been so nice to me. It has meant so much to me.

My intent was not to grandstand or look for attention, like some feel.

I will not post again. Take care everyone and I wish you well with your lives!

[fluff]

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Grace-Why are you deleting your posts?

[Ringing Cedars]

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you haven't disappointed anyone that cares about you SG!