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    Hey everyone ,
    Today is my first day in a while with out alcohol. I just got off about a one week bender. About 12 or more per day. Normally I would brush off the excessive drinking as having a little fun and sober up a few days and be back to normal. However this time was different , I actually started to get physical symptoms of withdrawal after stopping.

    I woke up about 4 or so in the morning after only sleeping an hour or so. This was the first bad sign. I started drinking as a way to help me sleep. I had a bad history of sleep disorders. The problem here is over the last week or so I noticed my dependency suddenly sky rocketed. In order to get a few hours of sleep I would need to down 6 beers or so. I would wake up soon as the alcohol lost effect and need to down more to get back to sleep. Ive tried to quit several times but when I do sometimes Ill go 2 or 3 days with just a few hours of sleep. Ive managed a couple times to develope a good sleeping pattern without the use of alcohol , but I would fall back into drinking to sleep after a stressful day at work or something. I also have some wierd sleeping problem where I would wake up in the middle of the night and be half asleep Id go into a very mild delirous state and start beleiving strange things , I would always be able to tell real from unreal but in these cases I have to stop and think real hard about everything.

    The real kicker is after this last bender I had physical symptoms of withdrawal. Scared me so bad. I woke up about 5 in the morning sweating and anxious. I couldnt sit down I started pacing the floor rapidly. I couldnt think straight and felt awful. All I could think was I needed a drink. I had about 2 beers and laid down for a while , suddenly about 2 hours later when those beers effects wore off I started getting anxious. This time I was getting sick to my stomach. My mind was racing. I started seeing lines and my vision and little dots where appearing. A fee times I thought I seen some odd looking flakes falling. I couldnt tell if I was really seeing things or my mind was playing tricks on me. All I could think was how I needed to drink. About this time I realized I was having withdrawals from the alcohol. I never experienced this before and I was afraid. I went to the internet and started looking at some of the signs and withdrawal symptoms. Some of the storied made my anxiety worse they were storied of people going into shock etc... after trying to quit. I found one interesting theory among these stories. Some people where talking about quitting by tapering off. It seemed like a decent way to stop and take off the edge of most of the withdrawal. Personally I cant afford to go to a doctor and risk being locked up 3 days. I cant afford to miss work and possibly jeopardize my job.

    Mu question here is what is the best way to taper off. Should I drink a certain amount each day and lessen the amount the next or should I have just the minimum to stave off the withdrawal then hold out longer each time until the next drink. My last drink was roughly about 7 this morning. Ive been about 15 hours without a drink. The first five hours where the worst. I couldnt eat , I was sweating and was so anxious I couldnt think straight. the anxiety has calmed down now , I feel ok if I eat something and Im not sweating for no reason. I was shocked by how fast I went into withdrawal amd I am hoping the worst is over. Now Im wondering if I should stay the course or start tapering down. Im a little scared and seems like the worst part is over but I keep hearing stories of how going cold turkey can be dangerous. Im also worried about how long I can run on very little sleep before I give up and go back to drinking to sleep. Im trying my best to build a normal sleep pattern with out alcohol. Any suggestions anyone.

    #2
    tapering off ?

    If you look at the nicotine patches ,they help you give up over a 3 month period. I did this and must say found it easy compared to stopping completely. So I have decided after a few failed attempts at cold turkey to try the the same method with alcohol.
    I m just going to stick to 4 strong beers 5% a day no wine or spirits, then gradually swap to weaker beers then reduce the days.
    I am on day 5 and its going ok no hangovers or craving although I did fancy a large vodka Friday :O) but just stuck to my beers and sleeping good to.
    Its easier not to start than stop

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      #3
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      Some people have the will power to taper, like GMC, some don't.

      You have to make a plan to stop drinking.....so write it down so you don't just drink yourself well enough to start drinking yourself really ill again.

      Choose how quickly you want to taper and STICK TO IT. There is no one rule as long as it is downwards.

      Then you have to think about the future though most here go for 30 days sober and then decide where to from there.

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        #4
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        Welcome Jojoofu! Both tapering methods are effective - you'll need to see which one works best for you. Personally, I chose the second method. I drank just to stave off the wd symptoms. I treated booze like medicine - only took it as needed and got off it as soon as I could.

        Kuya's right - write down your plan and stick to it. Document each drink so you can track your progress and don't forget how many you've had or are supposed to have each night.

        Drink lots and lots of water, eat healthy, full meals, and start taking vitamin supplements. Try to get some form of exercise each day - even a brisk walk will do wonders. Breath deeply and don't be too down on yourself. You're making some positive steps - you can do this.
        Well it's all right now. I've learned my lesson well. You see you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.

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          #5
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          hi jojofoo,tapering does work if you stick to your limit,and as siren said use alcohol as a medication only when it gets real rough,start later in the day,use only beer,dont have a few then say"f it and get drunk again,get something to help you sleep,i tapered at first i had to,i was drinking at least 10 beers everynite more on weekends or bad days,stick with it go down,never up again good luck and keep us posted
          I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

          I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
          Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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            #6
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            Thanks everyone , Ill try my best. Its been about 30 hours no. I did get some good rest last night. The beerin my fridge is still just sitting there. Never has a beer survived so long in my house lol. Well see how things go in the next few days. Im trying to hold out long as possible.

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              #7
              tapering off ?

              Hi Jojoofu, You've come to the right place, I was on 20 drinks a day and had to have an alcohol councillor who suggested I taper down about 1 to 2 drinks a week. He was worried I had a stroke if I came off too soon but I was on more than you so everyones different.

              Taper as slowly or quickly as you think is safe but you must keep a record and write down your daily drinks consumption and how you feel.
              It's not what you drink, it's how much!

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                #8
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                Well Im at about 40 hours now with out a drink. I think the worst was over in the first 24 hours. Now its a matter of training myself to sleep properly without alcohol. Thats always been my biggest struggle. I did manage to sleep well last night :-)

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                  #9
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                  good for you! i use melatonin for sleep or sleepytime tea worx most of the time
                  I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                  I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                  Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                    #10
                    tapering off ?

                    Hi jojoofu and :welcome:

                    Please be careful as alcohol withdrawal is dangerous. There is a link in my signature with more information if you are interested. When I came off alcohol I had my husband read the list of danger signs and keep a close eye on me so he could call 911 if needed.

                    I would also suggest reading up on Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome. These symptoms including things like sleep difficulties can last a long time. I only share that so you are not expecting a magical "fix" for these types of symptoms in a matter of days. Alcohol is very toxic to our bodies and we've done a lot of damage and it takes a lot of time to heal physically, emotionally, mentally, etc.

                    On a positive note - quitting drinking is the best thing by far I have ever done for myself. All the pain and difficulty of early sobriety has absolutely been worth it. So I applaud your decision to quit and encourage you to educate yourself and be safe out there!

                    Good luck,

                    DG
                    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                    One day at a time.

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                      #11
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                      Thanks for all the advice everyone. Its been 3 days now and Ive managed to sleep well. I think the worst is oblver. I only had hallucinations the first day but they stopped. I havent gone delirious so it seems Im safe now. just a mtter of keeping it up. I want to make it atleast a week to start.

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                        #12
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                        im glad your good jojoo,keep checking in ok?
                        I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                        I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                        Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                          #13
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                          Its been one week now and Im hanging in there. All is fine except Ive been having some chest pains today. I dont think thats related to drinking though.

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                            #14
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                            I'm on my first day. I'm trying the taper method. Today I've had 5 beers over 5 hours, which I don't know if I've ever done that, but thats it I'm done. I hope to have results like u have. Only time will tell. Good luck in your endeavor

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                              #15
                              tapering off ?

                              Hi everyone... thank you for sharing these thoughts.. I am new here & very nervous, very hard to start here saying what i think i need to say...
                              I am a female & have been heavily drinking for about 2 years. Roughly 1 or 2 bottles of wine a night. There have been several days during that time when i didn't have a drink but would maybe take a pill to calm me down. The quantity I have been drinking recently, like in the past few months is way too much & i know it. I have been going through a hard time, a breakup, etc & have been using it to cope. It took me 6 days to drink 2 full large bottles of vodka. I just want to lay out the facts here, don't mean to wander on....
                              Bottom line, i want to stop & hopefully socially drink. I have researched this like crazy & i'm scared but more scared of dying. I just want to hear any of your thoughts, i could really use some help. I feel like i want to taper off. I am excessively scared of having a seizure or anything else.. i'm so scared i will probably have one because I'm fearing it so much. I can't devastate my family.. i really need to do this right. Since i made up my mind about tapering, i'm trying to get started & i guess my main question right now is, does it matter what your alcohol of choice is when tapering? I've read alot about tapering with beer in general... does it matter for me since i've been drinking liquor & wine (i've had beers here & there but the wine & vodka has been in very heavy amounts)

                              I would appreciate any help so so much... thanks for listening..

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