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    #16
    can't sleep and hate people

    Yes UK and that is why i am so proud of him. My withdrawals are nothing to what my son went through and it has left him with terrible anxiety and a few other problems but he is alive and I am so very very proud of him.
    AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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      #17
      can't sleep and hate people

      available, i hope your son is doing better, i got the same anxiety problems, I can relate, i almost feel suicidal now, but i can't and won't do it. My parents believe in though love, i don't. It's the last thing i need.

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        #18
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        My son still has issues Ent but he is getting there, he was addicted for nearly a year so the dr and counsellor said he is very lucky that his anxiety is the only side affect. I felt a hypocrite taking him to a drug and AL counsellor when i had issues of my own and of course he did not want to go to counselling but he now realises how beneficial it is for him. Maybe you should think of a counsellor that specialises in AL.

        My tough love approach is to give my children a cuddle and tell them i love them. I am giving you hugs from afar Ent. Be strong and i do relate to the feeling suicidal but cant and wont. I have been there also and i wont die for any bastard, wont give them the satisfaction. Funny how our mind works. Keep up the good work you can do this and you are so young and have you whole life ahead of you. PM me if you want to chat.
        AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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          #19
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          I love that your though love approach is a hug and caring for them, and i appreciate the hug .

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            #20
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            Oh they can get a talking to but thats part of being a parent, the best parts are the hugs and kisses and the "i love you". You can have as many hugs as you want Ent just be strong and know that people on this site care for you and are here.
            AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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              #21
              can't sleep and hate people

              available;1558885 wrote: Yes UK and that is why i am so proud of him. My withdrawals are nothing to what my son went through and it has left him with terrible anxiety and a few other problems but he is alive and I am so very very proud of him.
              I thought it was rare for anyone to recover from that, no wonder you are proud.

              Entity

              Family get scared sometimes but once they see you get straight and stay straight then the trust does return.
              I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

              Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

              AF date 22/07/13

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                #22
                can't sleep and hate people

                HI entity I am glad you have found us here and reached out for help. I am sure you can start to find people on this site who can give you so much help and support which you need and deserve right now. I did.

                At 24 you are very young and have noticed that you have a problem and decided to do something about it, you are so fortunate that you can have a fantastic life ahead of you. I think virtually all of us have morals to live our lives by, unfortunately for some, me included they went by the wayside as time went on and my drink problem escalated. I would never ever have thought in a million years that I would steal, beg, end up locked up in cells for nights on end, be beaten up and robbed, and be unfaithful to my partner but it all happened and what I want to say to you is that it doesn't have to happen to you. It wont happen to me again, but Im now 51 and have wasted years of my life and worse still years that I could have spent with my kids.

                As you get better you need to help yourself feel better, and that can be hard, I hated everyone in the world because I felt like I didn't deserve anyones time, you do and you will get it here. Eat, get out in the fresh air it feels great, divert your attention when you mind wanders by doing things you like, listening to music, watching tv, films, reading book, get out in the fresh air as much as you can, get a shower. You choose but just do something to help you that you might just like. Then you can look around at other stuff that may be of help but the main thing is to get through this early time and try not to worry about the future it is now that matters. You should be maybe feeling a bit better now and it will become ok.

                Try not to worry you are a good guy.

                space x

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                  #23
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                  Oh and I wanted to say to available, I too have a son around the same age as yours with bad problems too which he is now trying to sort. I worry about him so much but he doesn't take drugs now or get drunk. I look at the kids he went to school with and was friends with, one is murdered, another in prison for his murder, I have lost count how many in prison for dealing drugs. We still have to live on the same estate I have tried to be rehoused but no joy as I rent and need social housing. He does now have agoraphobia and severe anxiety problems but he is alive, safe and still with me. I too am proud of him.
                  x

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                    #24
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                    I try to reach for help when i can, but i'm ashamed. I wouldn't judge you for when you were drunk :l. You seem like a nice person, giving me help and advice.
                    I've gotten beaten up with no reason about 2 years ago.

                    That's the worst thing, i still feel like i don't deserve anyones time but i'm getting better.
                    I understand your sons anxiety, sometimes i don't understand these feelings, and the anxiety could be very bad. I wish your son the best :l

                    Thank you for the advice

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                      #25
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                      UK he is still only 6+ months clean from meth and he is currently not working and I dont really trust him to be out in the real world just yet. He has an addictive personality, wonder where he got that from! He still has his moods and frustrations but long term hopefully he will be ok. Sounds like me with AL really but people feel sorry for his addiction but not ours which still confuses me.

                      Space, a couple of my sons friends have ended up in jail due to drugs, he is just one of the lucky ones that did not get caught. I am glad your son could go to you with his problems, it makes the world of difference to their lives. I bought my son a dog and it is the best thing i have done, he goes out and walks him daily, as he says no one is looking at him, they are looking at the dog. He needs to get out of the house and since it is a big dog it is his bit of responsibility at the moment.

                      Ent, dont be ashamed, be proud that you have admitted you have a problem and want to fix it. Just take it day by day and dont beat yourself up. As was said before, you are young and have your whole life ahead of you. Dont dwell on the past, look forward to the future with a wife, family and a stable home. You seem to have so much to give. Maybe you should try standing up for yourself with your parents and make them listen if that is possible, not for them but for yourself.

                      Anxiety is a terrible thing, i suffer from it but funny enough not as much now that i am AF. I used to just shake and panic when i had to go to the shops, now its like oh ok off i go. Life is so much better AF and you sound determined to beat this.

                      Keep in touch and hugs from Aus.
                      AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                        #26
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                        It's hard going through the real world when you are just recovering. I can't understand that, you should feel sorry for any addiction .

                        and thank you, it's the hardest thing, not looking on my past failures because i went on benders. I just want to do better, my memory is already getting better by now.

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                          #27
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                          Hi Ent, glad to see you are still being strong and posting on here. Yes i totally agree we all should feel sorry for those people addicted to anything, food even is an addiction to some. The first week is pretty hard to be AF, i found I thought about AL constantly. Where was that friend of mine, had he gone on holidays and deserted me? Who could i drown my sorrows with when he was not around? I think it is a sense of loss that we feel but Ent it is so much better without that so called friend around.

                          If i kept thinking about my past failures of which there was many I would be in a corner of the room rocking lol.

                          You are doing better, you are here and you are safe the rest eventually will fall into place. People will start to notice a different you and you are already. The world is such a better place without AL but I still have to be aware that it is always constantly around. I cant believe how many tv shows i watch and remember now where people are drinking AL.

                          Have a great day and stay strong. Im about to enter the real world of work and i hope my patience level this week is better than previous but for some reason my tolerance level is not high. It will pass
                          AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                            #28
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                            available;1559640 wrote: People will start to notice a different you and you are already.
                            This is so true ! Just today when I was cleaning out my shed my old landlord came over to see what I was up to. He said he didnt even recognize me .. he said I look way better... he then extended his hand to congratulate me ! No lie just about 2 hours ago.

                            Entity;1559635 wrote:
                            It's hard going through the real world when you are just recovering. I can't understand that, you should feel sorry for any addiction .

                            and thank you, it's the hardest thing, not looking on my past failures because i went on benders. I just want to do better, my memory is already getting better by now.
                            Reflecting on the past is a healthy thing .. just dont let your mind start to re-experience it. No guilt..no shame. Your doing great .. a little time and you will see what we are all talking about.:l

                            As far as the feeling sorry thing .. I think that depends on the person. I for one wish Nobody to "feel sorry for me" for anything. Even when I lost my mom. I do give "Im sorry" when it was my doings on others that impacted them in a negative way.

                            Dave
                            Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be. - Khalil Gabran
                            AF: 9-10-2013

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                              #29
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                              Yeah, even food could be troublesome, my friend though has always treated me nicely. He's not an alcoholic and when i was drunk and on one of my benders, i got sad and slept on his couch, i called him while drunk and he let my sleep it off.

                              Exactly, i feel like it's always around.

                              Dave, i'm doing better now and you've been a great help, as well as the others. You're right, i shouldn't re-experience, it just makes me sad and down.

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                                #30
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                                At the moment, i cant stand myself. I just feel sorry and remorsefull about drinking when i know i go on a bender. It's hard at the moment

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