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    Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

    I never thought in a million years that I would be posting on a website like this. This past week has been the most awful in my entire lifetime. I really need help from those who are older and have much experience (experience with what you think when drunk). This post isn't so much about myself, but about my girlfriend. I will give a very quick background, then the details.

    We have been dating since the spring and everything has been going very well. Family loves her, she has been a perfect mold to me. She worked in the music industry which involved getting people to go to shows and she left the company, because it involved flirting with men and she found that inappropriate due to our relationship. This is the kind of person she is. She left her last boyfriend because he did drugs and got drunk. She likes to drink, but remains in control...... until now.

    I am completely devastated on what has happened. I have lost nearly 8-9 lbs this past week, stared at the wall for 6 days, and burst out crying randomly. I am having trouble looking at her the same way.

    She went to cuba with her mother and her brother and during her time there, cheated on me twice (two nights in a row) with the same person. From what I have found out in our talks, this is the recap.

    Night #1:
    ---------
    She was in the disco area with her brother, looking after him, and there were a bunch of people there. This one guy kept bringing drinks around to everyone, and she gave into peer pressure and kept accepting the drinks he gave her. She had a lot to drink and says she doesn't know how much she actually had. She went outside of the disco area and he followed her, trying to hold her hand - she told him she had a boyfriend and went to leave and he went to kiss her. She moved, and he kissed her cheek. He kept trying until she finally just sat there and he got her on the lips.

    She pushed him off thinking of what she would say to me - and before she knew it, she was kissing him back. They proceeded to makeout and he felt her up and fingered her. She said she felt "instant regret" and wanted it all back.


    Night #2:
    ---------

    During the day of night #2, she was in the pool and this same guy was there, grabbed her foot, hugged her, and tried to kiss her - she pushed him off and got out of the pool and left.

    At night, she got drunk again and this guy ended up seeing her again (he was also drinking so I am told). The same thing ended up happening, in addition to them walking back to his hotel room. She said as soon as she got to the hotel room, she left within 2 minutes because it felt so wrong and it hit her what was going on.


    She spent the rest of the week crying and overdosing on anxiety pills.


    My questions are:

    1) WHY?????? I have never been drunk - can her being drunk really have caused this? I am tormented by the thoughts of him fingering her .....and her probably moaning about it. I haven't been this sick and upset in my entire life. I don't know if I can get over this. Why two nights in a row?

    2) Can a woman who has done this please chime in? Did she think it was over after night 1 and was so disgusted that she drank herself to drunknesness to numb the pain on night 2 - but then was drunk again so it ended up happening twice? I'm at a horrible loss with no answers.

    I haven't been able to function in a week, my job is suffering, i'm losing weight, and what I am feeling is so crushing I can't even put it into words. WHY?????


    Below, are the notes she wrote me for context (names removed) - maybe someone who has done this can help me and help me with what to do.

    Other factors to note - she comes from a broken home (parents) and suffers from ROCD (relationship ocd). Her meds were for depression.

    :upset:

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    Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

    So i dont even know how to start this but it has to be done and was eating at me every single day. My whole trip to Cuba was awful and a mental hell because of certain things i did. it all started with me going off my medication I believe as something in the past happened similarly to this when i decided to go off my meds. Been on them for over 4 years and i should have never stopped as it helped me a lot. Thought i could just get off them as i was really happy with you and thought things would be different, turns out it didnt matter. I think my meds were also treating me for a minor case of bi-polar. i dont know how to say this... so hard as I actually do love you but my actions would imply otherwise. I really didnt mean for this to happen and if i could take it back I would, whole trip was ruined and would wake up wishing I never even went there and was back with you; like everything was back to normal. i ruined everything. I had a lot to drink one night and well there is no easy way to say this, but this guy kissed me and i kissed back. It meant nothing but still; i cheated and I cant believe I did. This has somewhat happened before when i went off my meds before and i dont know why. thats no excuse or anything but its a fact. I threw away everything we had as i know now things cant be the same. I literally caused myself to be physically sick and took a lot of the anxiety pills i had packed in case something happened. I took more than you should and would just sleep to numb everything. the whole trip was ruined after this and i couldnt help but cry and hate myself every single day. suicidal thoughts even crossed my mind; i would never do it but the thoughts somehow made me feel better as I deserved such things.

    I truly dont deserve you and am much sicker than i thought. I dont really know who I am anymore and i do actually hate myself. I just ruined our whole future and now nothing will ever be the same. Im so sorry for screwing things up for us and breaking your heart. I messed up your life, i know this; and my own. I really dont know what else to say, im so guilty and ashamed. feel like i can never be forgiven by God for all this. i know this is just going to make your OCD so much worse and break you. Had to tell you though of course. My mom knows as she helped me get through the long week when I pretty much was sick with guilt and dying of shame. Guess this means things are over between us and i screwed up everything. You could never look at me the same and I dont blame you. Not too mention i know you will tell your mom all this so she would hate me and look down on me. Seriously dont know that part of me and it scares me so much. Like i will never find happiness again as you were it and now thats gone. Im really worried for you and how you will take all this. You dont have to write back or anything i would understand completely. Dont expect anything from you anymore, ive gone and thrown it all away. so yeah i dont know what else to say anymore. In case you dont ever want to talk to me again, just want to say you were an amazing boyfriend that treated me like gold. You were the best bf I had ever had and i enjoyed our time together. You deserve so much more even if sometimes you dont think so or find your OCD habits taking control. I only wish you the best *NAME* and wished I could have been the one to make you forever happy. Im sorry again for all i have put you through.

    and after more discussion....




    I will do my best to reply to everything. It kills to me to remember all the details as i hate every single one of them. i am so truly sorry for what i have done and so ashamed. in my life i have never done anything so wrong, stupid and outright hurtful. I really didnt know i could do that to someone i loved. This is something i will regret for the rest of my life.

    1 & 2) I really dont want to give you the details because you will just imagine it all and put you through more unnecessary pain. But if you must its the very least i can do. after this i think we will part our separte ways as i cant live with myself with all the horrible things i have done. It started with a short kiss and i backed off and then he came again and i just resigned and kinda let it happen and yes tongue was involved and eyes closed. we kissed for about 5min before he started to feel me up and then i just wanted to leave. He placed my hand on his crotch area and so i touched it but moved my hand away after. i was having doubts about us that night thinking if you were really the one and this came up and i dont even know what i was thinking but i let myself loose control. as soon as it happened and i was walking back to my room i instantly regretted it and wanted to take it all back. If i was having troubles with us and thinking about certain things i should have just gone to you and we would talk it out.

    3) i was in the club with *NAME* and the friends he made, a few were girls. it was around 1am and i was sticking around my brother as my mom asked me to, so i could watch out for him and make sure he didnt have too much to drink or get into trouble. we were all there together and i saw him get drinks and he would hand one to me which i drank of course, unfortunately. we didnt really talk that much as it was loud in there, just all congregated on the dance floor and that was that. I do not know how many drinks I had, but i did have a lot, nothing like my brother who was spinning and stumbling, but enough. I tried to take care of *NAME* but i couldnt even take care of my self, so shameful.

    4) he was semi-attracted i suppose but its not like i wanted to make out with him when we met in the dance club. had no idea anything remotely would come close to what happened later. Did not use alcohol as an excuse at all to release any desires.

    5) the why still eludes me. why did i throw everything away and hurt you in the most horrible way possible; it doesnt make sense. I cant believe i would do such a thing to anyone, let alone someone i love and care for. It wasnt because i though the guy was super attractive and just wanted to be close to him though. i was having mild second thoughts about us and in the beginning i had more control when i just had a couple drinks. as the night progressed though and i gave into peer pressure and had more drinks my actions lost all reasoning. we had something so good. a part of me thinks to myself maybe i didnt want to be happy, i have told you this briefly before once in the basement. That sometimes i feel like i cant allow myself to be so happy. it doesnt make sense. It is definitely apparent now that i do have commitment issues. The whole trapped thoughts were a clue; i guess it scares me to be with one person forever because i know things will come up and you have to work them out. what if people change like my mom and dad and then you live in a loveless marriage for over 10 years hating it all. How do you know when someone is the one. I sometimes felt like you were the one and then my OCD mind would bother me and ask me how and everything. What happened in cuba is quite obvious i am not the one for you...

    6) you lacked nothing, it was me who ruined everything and for all this i am very sorry. i have caused you so much grief and unbelievable pain.

    I dont think i deserve a second chance with you because this is all too much. How could i even feel good enough for you anymore. I would feel so low by your side and not worthy to be with you. Not too mention i could never face your parents ever again. i screwed it up way beyond fixing and for that i hate myself and will continue to do so for a very long time.


    How am I able to heal - and more importantly - why night #2 and is it alcohol related?????? I am just dying :upset:

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      #3
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      issues

      She obviously has a lot of psychological issues she's dealing with. I think her emails are coming from drunk-induced shame and it's possible that she'll feel differently if you give her time. I advise giving her time to process all of this. You should also read up on bipolar depression, which is different from normal depression. Some people with bipolar self-medicate with alcohol but it's also obvious that she's just been sucked in socially to drinking too much in the club scene. Actually, it sounds like she's not mature enough for a relationship with you. Don't blame yourself.

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        #4
        Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

        Hi nancy,

        I appreciate your input :upset:

        I will read up on those things. Also, what do you mean by that "it is possible she will feel differently if I give her time." Could you explain please?

        I just don't understand - is it possible to do this when drunk? I can't process it or how it is because I don't drink or get drunk. Could it be that the brain was just intoxicated so it doesn't really care what is going on?

        She told me what she did was "sickening". I don't understand. Was it not sickening while it was going on - or does the drunk mind think differently?

        The only thing I can relate to is her OCD, since I suffer from it myself - and if she has serious ROCD, I know what kind of torment that can be. She told me before sometimes she drinks because it numbs the ocd thoughts.

        I still love her. I also believe that it takes more balls to stick around and work through an issue than to simply tell someone to get lost. I am forgiving and compassionate because if roles were reversed, I would want the same from her, but at the same time I am completely and utterly devastated. I don't know what to say or think. I wrote a really long email to her and it was way over the top (like novel) bursting with emotion and what would appear as screaming.... sigh .... I'm acting out of anguish and rash judgement

        The last thing she said before she left was to remember how much she loves me.

        I want it all to be reversed....


        When you say to give her time - do you mean in days or weeks? I have stopped texting her now, and feel that she should be the one to initiate conversations - I want to be "distant" but at the same time not so much or not so long in delaying/answering that it appears I no longer want her. It's a fine line to walk....

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          time

          Yes, it is possible to do things completely out of character while drunk. Having said that, it sounds like she remembers everything so she was sober enough to know it was wrong.

          I don't know how much time it will take. I would tell her to take some time to think about it and talk it over with her therapist and that you won't tell your mother. I would think to yourself that this isn't necessarily the end. You have to decide for yourself if this is something you want to put up with on a long-term basis, especially as it sounds like she might do it again (she says might feel trapped in a relationship). She's not so remorseful that she thinks it won't happen again.

          Is she really young?

          I'm sure you are going to get more advice so hang in there!

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            Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

            I have been told by others, including my cousin who has years of drunken parties behind him, that even though you may know it is wrong - being drunk just makes you not care - or that even though it may be wrong - it is a "anything is okay right now" thought process, due to impairment.

            He gave examples of things he did when drunk that he would never dream of doing sober - and he remembers it all.

            Now, I am not giving an excuse - but if this is the case, the hurt would be a little less...

            I can't comment since I have never done that - she said he tried to perform oral sex but that she stopped him - I am confused as to why that was stopped but not anything else? I can't relate to an intoxicated mind.

            The only thing I have to base my views on is from people who I have seen drunk - and every single one of them acts differently - like not even the same person.

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              #7
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              Been there done it. Also been there and not done it and not been believed but that's another story.

              Alcohol affects your judgements, thoughts, moods the whole hog and in some people it will result in them doing things they wouldn't normally do.

              This doesn't excuse her behaviour and the fix is for her to either moderate or quit full stop. You can decide whether to stay alongside her and rebuild trust, or just move on.

              One of the reasons I got sick of drinking was because it affected my personality so much I just wasn't me. I still did those things however it's only by being (a) in control then (b) quitting completely that people do now trust me.

              Alcohol is a mind altering drug.
              I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

              Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

              AF date 22/07/13

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                ineedserioushelp;1558759 wrote: I have been told by others, including my cousin who has years of drunken parties behind him, that even though you may know it is wrong - being drunk just makes you not care - or that even though it may be wrong - it is a "anything is okay right now" thought process, due to impairment.

                He gave examples of things he did when drunk that he would never dream of doing sober - and he remembers it all.

                Now, I am not giving an excuse - but if this is the case, the hurt would be a little less...

                I can't comment since I have never done that - she said he tried to perform oral sex but that she stopped him - I am confused as to why that was stopped but not anything else? I can't relate to an intoxicated mind.

                The only thing I have to base my views on is from people who I have seen drunk - and every single one of them acts differently - like not even the same person.
                This is true however it's still not an excuse because you chose to drink. People also aren't logical, some also see different sexual activities as not as 'personal' - for instance receiving oral please might for some women seem more like cheating, or in the case of Bill Clinton less.

                In my mind it's all having sex with other people - from a kiss to full blown sexual intercourse.
                I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

                Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

                AF date 22/07/13

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                  #9
                  Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

                  I wanted to reply to your post, but not as a member of MWO but as someone who has experienced the pain of infidelity. I can hear the desperation in your posts. I've been there. I understand - your universe is turned upside down right now. Your heart feels like it's been put through a blender. You can't eat. You can't sleep. You can't stop obsessing or playing those awful mind-movies over and over in your head. I completely understand.

                  But, asking us if we would do such things while drinking doesn't really start to ease your pain, or help you understand what motivated her. Yes, I think it's safe to say that all of us have done things while drunk that we wish we hadn't. But my suggestion to you is to try different support forum. Here's the link: SurvivingInfidelity.com - Support for Those Affected by Infidelity It may or may not help you, but the people there understand intimately the pain of infidelity.I think it may be a better forum for you . They are a great group of people who helped me get through those first awful days and months. Good luck to you. I hope you can find peace through all of this. If it's any consolation, I have.
                  Everything is going to be amazing

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                    #10
                    Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

                    Yes, I have done things like that drunk. And yes, I think it is a valid excuse.
                    I have turned into someone I don't know and loathe.

                    If she doesn't have a habit of drinking, is on depression medication then goes off them and gets drunk the first night, by the second night her brain is screwed up from the night before.
                    So this seems like it is out of character for her... I do understand your pain and feeling of betrayal...
                    I would try and work this out with each other... It sounds like you have a good communication between you, and I believe you can use this unfortunate event to become closer. Good luck and big hugs for your( and her) pain.

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                      #11
                      Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

                      Sorry, I just read she likes to drink. If you do get back together, I think you should make it on the proviso she doesn't drink at all.

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                        #12
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                        Daya;1559406 wrote: Sorry, I just read she likes to drink. If you do get back together, I think you should make it on the proviso she doesn't drink at all.
                        I'm sorry too but I see the exact same thing.
                        The depth of you girl friends problems I'm guessing are so much deeper than 2 wild nights in Cuba....
                        There is a thread here somewhere in which a young man suffered a very similar situation.
                        I believe in the end he had to admit that if he stayed, this type of behavior (i think she became very abusive as well) would be his life from Now on....

                        I'll see if I can find it.
                        Hugs and heart to you my friend. You are sailing rough seas but we are all here to support you. :l
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                          Putting hand up also! I have done so many things drunk that i would never dream of doing sober. The next day I wake with the "OMG did i do that", by the end of the day i was drinking to forget what i had done the night before, wondering how to repair what i had did. Thinking of bugger it, ive done it, i dont care, when i did care. Knowing i had hurt people but not knowing what to do but to drown myself in alcohol.

                          My ex (now) screwed around on me but it was going on for months behind my back, so i can feel your pain. Me in my "state" could not tolerate his behaviour (it was more than once or twice) or non remorseful state so i said goodbye although in hindsight the relationship was not going well anyway. If you want a relationship with this woman you need to forgive her and move on but she also needs to give up AL and be totally committed to you. Forgiveness is so very hard but getting back together and forever bringing it up is also not healthy.

                          I do hope it works out for you. If it is early days you both need to back off and just take some time to think about what is going to happen.
                          AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                            #14
                            Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

                            Hi Inee,
                            Here's the thread:

                            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f7...-do-74416.html

                            Whatever happens, honey, you are not alone!

                            :l
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                              #15
                              Drunk Cheating - Dying - Help!!!!

                              What jumped out at me in her letters was that she mentioned TWICE that she was having doubts about the two of you...whether you were the "one". That may be the most important thing to address at this point...in my opinion.

                              Good luck!
                              :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                              Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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