Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

[keepwalking]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

omg i love this site - where else would you get so much real life xx all debate is good debate, keep it going xx

[Evie.Lou]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

I ...for once in my life...am left speak-less by this argument ...Who are you helping with this kind of juvenile behavior ??.

It saddens me that people are name calling and second guessing each others motives. How childish !!!All I can say is stop lashing out and judging others. Many people here give their heart and souls to their recovery and still have the energy to let their healing process flow over to others who are still seeking. They give unselfishly day after day, and deserve to be praised for it !!!

I hate to think what impression words like this leave on the Newbies...Good job Oney on sending them to a more productive thread !!

[sunshine_gg]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Hmmmm

Frankly I find it a little disturbing that we have to laugh at one another or be sharp tongued at all? I read neither Kate's post nor any responses as personal attacks? At least not until thesw last few exchanges.

I AM a newbie. Both to the admission and consequent battle against alcohol, as well as this (or any other) addiction related forum. As such (a newbie), I have made mistakes and surely will make more in the future. If and when I do and am in need of some plain unconditional support, I come here. And, I don't think that's wrong. Nor, is it wrong to lend that support.

'Keep trying' and 'it'll be ok' are valid and helpful statements when someone is down and beating up on themselves. And, in most cases, a few hours or a day later, there are discussions of making a plan and how to avoid such slip the next time. I have NEVER yet seen anyone encourage 'drinking until pleasantly drunk' - perhaps I'm not reading the right threads.

Either way, MWO and especially some very compassionate supportive forum members have certainly helped me a whole lot. And yes, I was actually quite 'happy' that instead of daily drinking I ended up drinking only 6 days out of a month... because for me that was HUGE PROGRESS. I wouldn't for a second expect anyone cheering the 6 days.... but it was wonderful to hear encouraging words on the 20something other days.... from those who know that each one of those days was a small victory.

There. My 2 cents.

[KateH1]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Wow...listen...people are welcome to drink and call it whatever they choose to call it......people can post whatever they choose to post, I honestly do not care! Whatever floats your boat!

Everyone has a right to an opinion.....whether or not we choose to agree with that opinion is also up to each individual...... I voiced my opinion here on this thread on Long Term Abs....

I do not think it is compasssionate to tell somone who is constantly here......some for years already....that it is OK, to call Misery, Progress! Is a "Little Cancer".....not really cancer?

And Evie....quite frankly.....I find your post, as I do find many written by you, to be Quite childish!

[dexterhead]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Sunshine, I agree entirely. What makes this site special is the huge spectrum of people on here. We range from people who have literally lost everything from drinking, to people who've noticed their consumption creeping up and want to get a handle on it.
I've been here a bit over a year and this debate seems to be constant. Is "tough love" the answer? Is encouraging someone who keeps "slipping" an enabling behavior? Can people truly be successful at moderating? Every couple months or so, another debate, argument, whatever, crops up on this topic. And I understand it has been happening since the very beginning of the site. Also, ever since I've been here, people have been complaining that the site "isn't what it used to be," that there are too many personal attacks, that people are coming here who aren't serious about their problems, etc.
I'm sure it by no means is what it used to be, with how enormous it has grown. I don't like personal attacks but from looking back at archives, I saw a lot of drama in previous years. I think to some extent, that is natural, many of us are at volatile points in our lives. I think moderators have been helping with this.
I really haven't seen any posts encouraging people to drink, or whatever, but maybe I haven't seen these posts or threads.
I think it's wonderful that there can be different groups or threads for people in totally different stages. The thread of "30-60-90 days - hello, I'm a nondrinker" is an awesome idea for those who've achieved such success. The "Newbie's Nest"; threads that just make us laugh; It's all here. We can post on the threads we like and leave the rest.
And I celebrate anyone's success, no matter how small. Some people come here and go AF right away and stay that way. For some, it's baby steps. Some may have tons of slips, but for some, that is part of the road to recovery.
IN any case, it's all up to each one of us to figure it out for ourselves and do the hard work for find our own "way out."

[Evie.Lou]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

KateH1;538190 wrote: Wow...listen...people are welcome to drink and call it whatever they choose to call it......people can post whatever they choose to post, I honestly do not care! Whatever floats your boat!

Everyone has a right to an opinion.....whether or not we choose to agree with that opinion is also up to each individual...... I voiced my opinion here on this thread on Long Term Abs....

I do not think it is compasssionate to tell somone who is constantly here......some for years already....that it is OK, to call Misery, Progress! Is a "Little Cancer".....not really cancer?

And Evie....quite frankly.....I find your post, as I do find many written by you, to be Quite childish!

I believe that what ever we focus on "GROWS and GETS BIGGER" so I focus on what I DO WANT and give very little attention to what i DON"T want.
Quite frankly Kate...your opinion of me is NONE of my business ...
I am on my way to a PRAYER meeting and will be sure to add your name...can't think of anyone here that needs it more than you do !!!

[Heavenly]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

I was attacked. I defended myself. Point made. I am laughing because I am not arguing and want peace, laughter is the best medicine, wasnt laughing at anyone but with them at the situation. Read the thread and ALL the posts I have never attacked -only defended. Thanks, friends everyone now ?

[tlrgs]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

personally kate in stead of worrying about people and whining about someone that been here for a long time and yes maybe they cant make it .. but as long as they try and yes they have slips..
i think you should try and help those in need ..that are here looking for help .. i really dont know anything about you but only about me and i have needed help and i have found it here .. reading all the threads about modding and slips are all apart of this site .. and as for all those thread that are talking about drinking i havent seen much .. but only the ones that are saying they are thinking about drinking and are asking for help ..
just my two cents.. stay strong and think positive and for all those that need help keep coming back and looking for their way out...we are here for you ..
lets put an end to this thread and move on and look forward to the future

[A Work in Progress]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Yes... I think the thread was mis-understood from the get-go, and things went downhill from there. Let's do move on. I believe that in "real life" (whatever that is!), everyone who posted on this thread here would respect and even like each other. We can do that here, too. We all want the same thing; for each of us here to get over our alcohol problems. And I think each of us does the best we know how, to help each other. Disagreeing too much about the way we approach "helping" is not getting us anywhere...

[skootiemom]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

My point was I have been here a long time- and it has always been the same.

Thankfully, I am not the same and have improved much since 2006. Not "perfect" or a fast learner, but still here and doing the work.

Skoots (shaking her head at all the nonsense)

There... done- like Eustasia, I am also a thread killer!

[tawnyfrog]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

No you're not, Skootie.


All I'm sayin' is

YAAAAAWWWWN!

Are we done now? Good. I need to go to bed.

[KateH1]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Evie.Lou;538213 wrote: I believe that what ever we focus on "GROWS and GETS BIGGER" so I focus on what I DO WANT and give very little attention to what i DON"T want.
Quite frankly Kate...your opinion of me is NONE of my business ...
I am on my way to a PRAYER meeting and will be sure to add your name...can't think of anyone here that needs it more than you do !!!

Wow! Can we say vindictive!!! This is a spiritual thought????? Nasty, just plain nasty!

[polaryzed]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

I'll Fly Away

Interesting concepts from one and all!

:thanks:
One2Many, Work in Progress and Heavenly, thanx for your advise, I must have clicked on the thread that I am not ready for yet. (Kinda feels like being in a Lions den).

So I am off to the Newbies Nest to get some more Words of Wisdom. And hopefully I'll nip this in the bud! :bump:

[IAD]

Becoming Alarmed at Advice Being Given on MWO

Every one is entitled to their opion....I really believe that.......People may be offended by what you might say or do. Just remember.....we live in a free country and you have the right to you opion.....IAD