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[gyco]

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[gyco]

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gyco to the rescue hahahaha

[Heavenly]

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No one is saying anything against Mario ... we were just saying it's the terminology ....

[shirazgirl]

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That is why I decided after doing my 30 days not to attempt moderating. I don't want to think about drinking so when I take it off my plate, it seems a lot easier to deal with. I'm afraid of one drink, it will erase all of my good work I have done. I'm bored sometimes, but I'm learning to work through it. I don't ever want to be that person who wakes up and hates themself (nobody would ever tell from my actions) and goes to work hungover.

I can't predict my whole entire future. It is to overwhelming. I just know I need to make it through the holidays and that will be my next big accomplishment (my last was being at the winning world series Yankee game, biggest party I have ever been to at the Stadium). Thanks for your thought provoking post.

[KateH1]

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Shirazgirl.....Well done...attending the big party and passing on the alcohol! You will make it through the holidays....you have the "Right Stuff"! I am right there with you about just one drink. Why OH why would I want to ruin a great track record???? That would really be crazy!

You bring up another interesting point. The amount of energy that we have had to use up, in order to Cover Up! I am in the type of job where I always have to look great and exude...vitality. I cannot even imagine how many days I would pull myself together and "Act" like I felt great, all the while feeling absolutely awful from the alcohol the night before! Happily, for a very long time now, I really do feel great! Now I can use all that energy for a positive reason!

Keep Up the Great Work!

[momof3]

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If I were to have a drink tomorrow, I would call it a relapse, not a slip and would treat it as such.

[Trish]

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Me too. Only because I have experienced slips, relapses & sobriety. As someone posted on a different thread, there are many foundations laid for some people who haven't either experienced enough pain, or encountered a new way of believing, that life really is worth living. Enough pain to get honest with oneself. The layers of denial can run very deep for some. Wasn't there a time most of us were making excuses ~ reasons? Yet, we weren't ready to see it this way. More lessons were needed. There was a time in my life that I believed alcohol helped me survive. Until it stopped working.

Until those layers are peeled away, a person may believe it's a slip. Perhaps a way of protecting oneself, until their ready. Feeling safe enough to move forward. People come from all different walks in life. Alcoholism doesn't discriminate. Some have traveled further down that dark path, then others. Some have more resources then others to overcome more quickly. I'm not just speaking financially here.

To me all the definitions apply & are truthful, depending on where your now at in your recovery. Perhaps part of your journey was or still is slipping. I too hope you find your way out of the grips of slipping ~ relapsing. Please don't give up. There is hope for you. You aren't a failure. You are a survivor. Yet there is more to life then just surviving. There is a part of you that knows you can do this. May this seed of hope grow. Let others who speak to your mind & heart help you.

I hope the original post by Mario, doesn't get lost. As there are still many lost people. The intent I see in it is one of love, one of reaching out to those who are hurting, those who haven't come as far in their recoveries. A plea to never give up. A request to keep coming back. Welcoming those who haven't found their way yet. Reaching out in love, in my perspective is a sign of your strength Mario. I've read this in several of your posts. Thank you... )

I've also read it in many other poster's here as well. People have different styles of communicating. There have been times in my life I needed the tough love approach as well. Of course I didn't realize it then.

Today I choose to forgive, today I choose to love, today I choose sobriety.

[hippie37]

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I've really enjoyed reading this thread and especially your contributions Kate. I think you've hit the nail on the head more than a few times!! Thanks. xx

Love and Light
Phil
xx

[Starlight Impress Forever]

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Heck hip, I sure do hope it ain`t my head !!! :H Only kidding, Kate. :H :l

Star x

[Heavenly]

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Trish;757984 wrote: Me too. Only because I have experienced slips, relapses & sobriety. As someone posted on a different thread, there are many foundations laid for some people who haven't either experienced enough pain, or encountered a new way of believing, that life really is worth living. Enough pain to get honest with oneself. The layers of denial can run very deep for some. Wasn't there a time most of us were making excuses ~ reasons? Yet, we weren't ready to see it this way. More lessons were needed. There was a time in my life that I believed alcohol helped me survive. Until it stopped working.

Until those layers are peeled away, a person may believe it's a slip. Perhaps a way of protecting oneself, until their ready. Feeling safe enough to move forward. People come from all different walks in life. Alcoholism doesn't discriminate. Some have traveled further down that dark path, then others. Some have more resources then others to overcome more quickly. I'm not just speaking financially here.

To me all the definitions apply & are truthful, depending on where your now at in your recovery. Perhaps part of your journey was or still is slipping. I too hope you find your way out of the grips of slipping ~ relapsing. Please don't give up. There is hope for you. You aren't a failure. You are a survivor. Yet there is more to life then just surviving. There is a part of you that knows you can do this. May this seed of hope grow. Let others who speak to your mind & heart help you.

I hope the original post by Mario, doesn't get lost. As there are still many lost people. The intent I see in it is one of love, one of reaching out to those who are hurting, those who haven't come as far in their recoveries. A plea to never give up. A request to keep coming back. Welcoming those who haven't found their way yet. Reaching out in love, in my perspective is a sign of your strength Mario. I've read this in several of your posts. Thank you... )

I've also read it in many other poster's here as well. People have different styles of communicating. There have been times in my life I needed the tough love approach as well. Of course I didn't realize it then.

Today I choose to forgive, today I choose to love, today I choose sobriety.

Very open post, thanks for posting here .....

[mario]

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It is common practice in the AA to call these things slips,but no matter what you call them,a relapse,falling down,a slip,gone back drinking.The point of this post was to say to people who have slipped that it is not the end of the world,you can start again,There are people who will not judge you and will try and help you.as this thing we call slipping or failure is not falling down its staying down.so as trish so kindly put it in her post,come back,dont stay away.

Having said that my personal opinion is more leaned towards kateh1 & heavenly.

Nothing is as simple as we hope it to be and it takes courage to grow up and turn out to be who you really are:thanks:

[Raven.joy]

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I slipped. I have come back I am sober and trying again. I believe I can do it this time and the slip has been part of my learning curve on the way to sobriety. After some weeks AF I thought I could handle a drink and was back at square one all the same stuff again. Lying hiding being less nice at home. Having Made that slip determins me no to do it again.

[manOman]

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A truly interesting thread.

Regardless of what our dictionary may tell us, a "slip" in the alcohol world is a screw up. If I take a drink it is not a slip. It is a monumental stuff up. Because one drink becomes 25 and it takes me down into the chasm of drunk.

However, if I choose not to drink, I have control. CHOICE is a big word - much better than "slip". I choose not to drink.

And yes, semantics plays a big part in our venacular. But I will never say I slipped. I would always say I screwed up big time. Because it was a choice. I did it and will be accountable for it.

I have not had a drink for a long time, but the thought is always there, and I am vigilant about controlling it. But I will never say that I slipped. I will say that I made an atrocious decision.

Bloody alcohol.

[Raven.joy]

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recognising it is choice keeps us responsible for not making it!

[KateH1]

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ManOMan and Raven, I am on the same page as you are. Though I realize that everyone here has a right to "Choose" their own termanology, to me using words like "Slip"....do not work for me. Regardless of what we call alcoholism, a disease, disorder...issue, etc. The fact of the matter is that it is up to each one of us to make "Choices"...to drink or not to drink...period!

As with the word "Slip"....I also take issue with the word "Trying". To me...to say we are "Trying" to stop leaves too much space for "Slipping". Thus a vicious circle. I think of stopping drinking and living sober like training for the Olympics. It is not easy. It takes tons of dicipline and focus. There is no "Trying" and "Slips" cost the athlete the prize! There are No Excuses in training for the Olympics and Excuses when working on Sobriety cost us dearly.