If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

[SKendall]

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Zen and Mollers bring up a good point, as well as others. I've had a day to marinate this and the post was more about Kate's perception of other so called "cliques" and how to change MWO. Wow, try Mt. Everest Kate.

I was part of one of the first meet ups in Seattle with some who have now left, and a couple who are still here. It was fabulous, but Kate took great exception to it and ridiculed some members which was pure judgement on her part. Scary, but I still have her PM, gotta do some housecleaning.

By the way, where is Kate?.............. Not another seagull act - nah, couldn't be.

[sunshinedaisies]

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Zenstyle;1336379 wrote: I feel a bit bad, as some people reading this thread may start to feel unworthy? as if they aren?t meeting the criteria. Addicts are sensitive souls! lol?

EXACTLY how I have ended up feeling. I wasn't going to post again on this thread because I thought I couldn't say any more than I already had. But this says it for me.

Sun.

[one2many]

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SKendall;1336423 wrote: Zen and Mollers bring up a good point, as well as others. I've had a day to marinate this and the post was more about Kate's perception of other so called "cliques" and how to change MWO. Wow, try Mt. Everest Kate.

I was part of one of the first meet ups in Seattle with some who have now left, and a couple who are still here. It was fabulous, but Kate took great exception to it and ridiculed some members which was pure judgement on her part. Scary, but I still have her PM, gotta do some housecleaning.

By the way, where is Kate?.............. Not another seagull act - nah, couldn't be.

I still have a horrible pm that you sent to me out of the blue telling me I neglected my kids because I was on here so much. You sent it to be when you were pissed.

People in glass houses....

[RingingCedars]

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That was a low fucking blow. While the post above yours was a bit low, it at least had some context in regards to the thread.

[one2many]

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Was it RC? really? Well if someone brings up what others say in a pm and slates them I have every fucking right to call them out on it.

I was judged in that horrific pm. So if I see hypocrisy i will bloody well say so.

[Heavenly]

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Wow Kate, I must have picked up your vibes ... I am here if anyone needs the tough bitch again, I ended up giving up on people because I got abused for being tough, even by someone posting on here right now

Email me Kate if you need back up ... I just got my 5 years and 1 month and 3 weeks sobriety badge ... lol

:goodjob::h

[techie]

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Heavenly;1336504 wrote: Wow Kate, I must have picked up your vibes ... I am here if anyone needs the tough bitch again, I ended up giving up on people because I got abused for being tough, even by someone posting on here right now

Email me Kate if you need back up ... I just got my 5 years and 1 month and 3 weeks sobriety badge ... lol

:goodjob::h

Back up? What are you her deputy? Your type just want to create divisiveness. Go back in the shadows. BTW, congratulations on five plus years. However, you are NOT a better person than those struggling. There is no cookie cutter approach that works for all. Allow yourself a little intellectual expansion, look at the bigger picture tough bitch!

[Accountable for Me]

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If I had a choice between someone tippy-toeing/condoning or tough love in regards to drinking and the effects that drinking has had in my life I would choose............ TOUGH LOVE.

So many people in my life always gave me reasons to justify my drinking. Shitty childhood, violent relationships, low self-esteem etc. If I had time under my belt and caved, they wouldn't 'blame' me.

It wasn't until I was 'called out' on my BS and the impacts my drinking really had in my life, that I took a deep look at myself and did something about it. Seriously did something about it.

Life is life. I needed the tough love. I needed the harsh truth about what I was doing. I needed people to stop condoning my behaviour in order for me to see the real shit drinking was causing in my life.

Anyway, this is my opinion on what worked for me. I think that if we keep pussy-footing around people who we KNOW are in trouble and need to ditch the alcohol.... sometimes calling-them out on their BS is necessary. I don't mean being an asshole about it, or disrespectful. But truthful.

That's just me.

[Nelz]

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This thread TRULY surprises me.

I found the board last year in May after what I deemed my "bottom out" point. I was seeking a place where I could talk with like minded people about the issues of alchoholism, its effects on people, and what others have done to quit.

I found all the support I could ever imagine, and then some. I have seen people come, and seen people go......some post thousands some only post one and vanish.

I both agree/disagree with many points on this here thread.

Not sure one year sober counts as a "long termer" or not, but I have worn my heart on my sleeve around here. Ive offered advice and feelings since the start, Im sure someone, somewhere, took a small nugget of advice for the best.

My stance: We are all different, we all are inspired by different techniques. Seems that this board is just more accepting of peoples faults and misgivings.

Just because someone isnt "sober" doesnt mean they dont have something to offer that just "might" help someone. To be honest, Im not one that responds well to "tough love"
I am pretty good at beating my daymself up, I dont need it from others.

I would expect the same result today, that I got a year ago...if I joined MWO.......today


Lets all enjoy some Lynrd Skynrd.....you cant get uptight with LS playing~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9f0IAYFvw8[/video]]Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man - YouTube

[Starlight Impress Forever]

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Well, I no longer come by very often, but funny how I happened along today and stumbled across this thread.........

My two pence worth?............I am 4 years and 5 months sober, and in no way does that make me any `better` than someone who is still trying to quit drinking, despite perhaps being at MWO for a few years. It`s the `trying` that counts. While someone continues to try, they are still in the race.

Being one of the `lucky` ones, who has achieved sobriety, I have learned a great deal about compassion for self and others, along the way.

Ater all, there but for the grace of God, go I.

Much love,

Star x

[Kradle123]

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I drank last night after getting 28 days done with MWO help.
The reasons it happened arent important right now.
I take full repsonsibilty.

PLEASE go back to doing what you all do best and stop ripping each other apart...

lease:

[Recluse]

If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

The title of this thread is "If I arrived at MWO today...".

If I arrived at MWO today and read this thread and saw the tone of some of the comments, I think I would probably go somewhere else instead.

[one2many]

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Starlight Impress Forever;1336540 wrote: .....

. It`s the `trying` that counts. While someone continues to try, they are still in the race.



Star x

Thats it exactly, as long as there is trying, if someone genuinely continues to try. Like I have said before, I have seen people try EVERYTHING under the sun and still not manage sobriety.
But they NEVER give up trying and that makes all the difference.

Then you have the people who lament their drinking, complain about it, say that have to stop and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help themselves, never try anything new, never use the tools that have worked for others, just plod along, usung this as a social network and slip in every so often that they drank/plan to drink/or are off to have a drink...while also saying to someone else who has falled, Good for you, thats a lot less than you were drinking, 2 beers is not bad....
ANY drink is bad for an alcoholic.

Thats what I am talking about..

[one2many]

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You said it much better than me Molly x

[Guitarista]

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Hi all, thanks Kate.

For me, i just try to put one foot in front of the other every morning, and take action by doing things i love. It's been a difficult 12 months, but no more difficult than for anyone else. It doesn't matter what people may or may not think of me (us) out there, i know my path, and i do what i need to do each day to walk it. My journey has involved me having to trust in me or something, and take a leap of faith at times through the fog and the weeds to the other side, where the flowers grow (look, there's a butterfly). I find what/where/who i choose to surround myself with, i.e. my environment, to be seriously important in the early days of sobriety. I am a dickhead sometimes, but i know my core values, and they are not negotiable. And drinking booze for me, is not negotiable. And that's totally okay. In fact, what a bloody relief.

To touch on the original point, There is so much great reading to be had here though, especially if we poke around and dig up threads from yesteryear. There are some really inspiring, serious, informative, thought provoking discussions just waiting to be re-discovered by newer folk, that are still relevant today. I encourage people to read, read, and keep reading stuff on this site, as there are so many pearls of wisdom, and little gems here and there that might just help to flick a switch for someone.

Great to read everyone's thoughts here. Kick some arse. x