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    #76
    If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

    Cross post Zen, yes maybe it has given peeps a kick in the butt to help newcomers

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      #77
      If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

      I can't speak for someone who came here today. But I can speak as someone who came here four months ago. Sunshinedaisies was one of the first few people I met. If it wasn't for her, I don't think I would've made it through the last few very difficult months. She always had a kind word, a shoulder to cry on, a hug to share, advice on how to cut down drinking, and ease the anxiety. So she has helped me stay sober perhaps more than anyone here, but that is just me. I just needed someone exactly in the shape of her and she has been here for me. Now, I know that this is thread is not about her, and sorry Sun that I mentioned it at all, I just wanted to say that it takes all sorts of people to make MWO what it is.

      There's a reason this site is split up into sections and people find their niche corners. People like Lav and Kaslo and K9, etc. really helped me out on the abstinence front and I take my hat off especially to people who are always helping out in the Newbies nest.

      Sorry I know this thread has run its course and I kind of latched on to the tail end but I just had to add my 2C.

      I wish everyone positivity and light.

      :h

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        #78
        If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

        One of the truly great things about MWO is the differences and variety of opinions, and how we as a community, together, keep this place rolling along. What a unique and special joint this is.

        This place is a seriously valuable resource in our battle with addiction, and the people you meet?.......Well, they're the icing on the cake.

        'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

        Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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          #79
          If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

          KateH1;1336735 wrote: Hi, All,
          First of all, I want to thank all that gave such well thought out input on this topic. So much valuable information. Mollyka, your last post was truly brilliant! Cinders, thank you for pointing out the seriousness of what we live with. Alcohol, kills. One of the points that I make to myself and on here as well, is that no matter how many years of sobriety we have, we are all just one drink away from disaster. I have never said that long termers are better than those just starting out. We are all the same. The difference IMO is that those with years of sobriety, perhaps have some pearls of wisdom that might actually help. Most of us have spent years and years in misery, trying to find our way out before something finally stuck.

          As for those that chose to use this thread to make up crap about me, and viciously attack me personally. These attacks say a lot about You. I do not own this garbage. I do not know Reggie....so he or she is ignored. But, SK....seriously.....you have a PM that is at least 4 1/2 years old and you are bringing it up here??? Wow! I will say that I remember that first meet up in Seattle. At first I thought wow....what a cool thing to do. However I was shocked and saddened when I heard after the fact about all the drinking that went on. I was happy that I did not attend. By the way....do you even remember all the unsolicited nasty PM's that you have sent me over the years? Most of the time you were clearly wasted.....I deleted them!

          I started this thread to try to start a civil conversation about the need to have more serious threads here again. Nothing more. I have never said that there should be "no humor" or "no social threads". But, I think we need balance. Again, thank you to all who shared their thoughts. Whether I agree or not, I appreciate all such input!

          With that....I am signing off this thread! My hope is that everyone that wants to find there way out is able to do so!
          Kate
          At least have the courage to address some of the fallout from your MWO structural diatribe. Obviously, you do NOT like the direction the discourse has taken. You said you started this thread to begin a civil conversation....Where was your voice? So you run?
          Outside of a dog a book is mans best friend. Inside of a dog its too dark to read

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            #80
            If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

            MWO is a fantastic site. I first joined in 2008 and with it I achieved over 8 months AF. Gradually I reduced using the site and then I relapsed. I then stayed away for 3 years and it was only when I started using it again that I found the strength for another quit. I am now on day 116 AF. I have very little support in "real life" and so the community here is so vital and important to me.

            There are lots of different people here, just as Molly articulated so well and all at different stages with different attitudes and aspirations. Just as in real life, people will always have different view points and not see eye to eye,the same happens on here, that doesn't mean the site cannot be a fantastic resource if you let it help you and use it wisely.

            There are different threads, different posts, different sections - I like to regard it a bit like a TV listings guide. There are 100s of channels and 1000's of programmes in a week, and no one wants to watch everything, or be interested in everything - but just as it wouldnt be practical or possible to have your own edited version on just what interests you, it is the same on here. You can't agree with everything, you learn to take what helps and ignore the rest.

            Use it to help you achieve your goal / dream- whatever that may be.

            Sausage
            Day 116 AF

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              #81
              If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

              mollyka;1336916 wrote: Alright - I was going to let this die - but I just can't - I will not be called a hypocrite and leave it like that. I'm not going to say 'I did this' and 'I did that' - I wouldn't bring myself down to that level - but I will not be called that.
              Duly noted.
              :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

              Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                #82
                If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                I must say at least one positive thing has come from this thread. Long-timers are posting in the Nest!!!:goodjob: Thank you for sharing your experience and advice with us "newbies".:wd:

                Lg


                "I like people too much or not at all."
                Sylvia Plath

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                  #83
                  If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                  And Merry Christmas to all and to all, a Good Night !

                  :besafe:
                  On My Own Way Out Since May 20, 2012
                  *If you think poorly of yourself, you can fail with a clear conscience.
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                    #84
                    If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                    SAUSAGE;1336968 wrote: MWO is a fantastic site. I first joined in 2008 and with it I achieved over 8 months AF. Gradually I reduced using the site and then I relapsed. I then stayed away for 3 years and it was only when I started using it again that I found the strength for another quit. I am now on day 116 AF. I have very little support in "real life" and so the community here is so vital and important to me.

                    There are lots of different people here, just as Molly articulated so well and all at different stages with different attitudes and aspirations. Just as in real life, people will always have different view points and not see eye to eye,the same happens on here, that doesn't mean the site cannot be a fantastic resource if you let it help you and use it wisely.

                    There are different threads, different posts, different sections - I like to regard it a bit like a TV listings guide. There are 100s of channels and 1000's of programmes in a week, and no one wants to watch everything, or be interested in everything - but just as it wouldnt be practical or possible to have your own edited version on just what interests you, it is the same on here. You can't agree with everything, you learn to take what helps and ignore the rest.

                    Use it to help you achieve your goal / dream- whatever that may be.

                    Sausage
                    Day 116 AF
                    Well said, Sausage. Personally I guess I don't notice that MWO has changed that much. I remember the threads and the members that were here when I joined in 2008 are mostly gone. I think most no longer post here because they have moved on with their lives. I like to hope they all remained sober. I used to spend a TON of time on MWO when I first quit drinking. I posted lots and tried to help all the newbies. Now, almost 4 years totally sober, I don't need MWO so much, but I guess I still enjoy the social network we have going in the daily AF thread. I feel that I still might just be able to help someone if they read about my life now--how much better it is now that I have a few sober years under my belt. I also enjoy encouraging the new people that are serious about being af on the daily thread. I think MWO is still a great forum. IMHO.

                    If anyone would like support or advice from me, feel free to ask.:h
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                    AF since September 28, 2008
                    DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
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                    :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
                    5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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                      #85
                      If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                      Jump into the Nest sometimes LV. Someone is always desperate for advice. You are welcome there, and needed.

                      Lg


                      "I like people too much or not at all."
                      Sylvia Plath

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                        #86
                        If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                        LVT25;1337033 wrote: Well said, Sausage. Personally I guess I don't notice that MWO has changed that much. I remember the threads and the members that were here when I joined in 2008 are mostly gone. I think most no longer post here because they have moved on with their lives. I like to hope they all remained sober. I used to spend a TON of time on MWO when I first quit drinking. I posted lots and tried to help all the newbies. Now, almost 4 years totally sober, I don't need MWO so much, but I guess I still enjoy the social network we have going in the daily AF thread. I feel that I still might just be able to help someone if they read about my life now--how much better it is now that I have a few sober years under my belt. I also enjoy encouraging the new people that are serious about being af on the daily thread. I think MWO is still a great forum. IMHO.

                        If anyone would like support or advice from me, feel free to ask.:h
                        Nice....
                        Psalms 119:45


                        ?Start by doing what is necessary, then what is possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible.?

                        St. Francis of Assisi



                        I'm not perfect, never will be, but better than I was and not as good as I'm going to be.

                        :rays:

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                          #87
                          If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                          Firstly, MWO has been a great help to me. So much of a help, in fact, that I'm not really a regular poster any more because my life has changed - and that's what works for me.

                          I want to make a point about the advice people give.

                          When I first came here, I knew nothing about how to stop drinking or what the side effects of that might be.

                          In my first week AF, I couldn't sleep at all and somebody here who was still drinking told me that insomnia was one of the symptoms of withdrawal. I had no idea that was the case but I learnt something from her.

                          So I didn't think only people who were not drinking could offer advice. I got advice about related matters from people at all different stages. For help with stopping drinking I looked for people who had the same attitude as me and wanted the same thing. I didn't look for people who had a different attitude and wanted different things. Horses for courses.

                          Also, some of the people who were starting out the same time as me are some of the long-termers now and we shared our early struggles back then, sometimes drank, tried not to drink, managed not to drink. I was here for over a year before I got some serious AF time under my belt, and many newcomers today will be flailing about like I was for quite some time and getting support from each other while they're doing it.

                          I do think there's a lot of good stuff here still. I do take the points about the people who are disruptive etc but this site is a microcosm of life and there will always be people like that, always have been while I've been here - I think most people can spot them a mile off and steer clear.
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                          Real change is difficult, and slow, and messy - Oliver Burkeman

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                            #88
                            If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                            Molly and Oney,

                            I'm sorry I was offensive to you two in particular (and anyone else too). I was having a bad day. It's no excuse, but I was. I have respect for both of you, and never meant any disrespect to either of you. So, I apologize. I hope you accept it, I mean it from my heart.

                            K9
                            :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                            Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                              #89
                              If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                              mollyka;1337400 wrote: Crikey K9 - I didn't expect THAT! I absolutely accept it 100% - and you're a bigger person than me for that post - I've been seething all day - fecking nonsense - but I did let myself get very upset - thank you
                              We're human Molly...it happens! One thing I've noticed in my sobriety is that it's getting so much easier to say "I was wrong, I'm sorry".... and in this case, I was, and I am....so there! LOL

                              I hope you have a good day!!! :h
                              :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                              Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                                #90
                                If I Arrived at WMO Today....???

                                You bet'cha we should!

                                I have to apologize in advance if I repeat myself, or post the same thing twice, this website is acting up for me. I have to log in twice, then I can't see replies to my posts until I hit the "reply" button, even if I don't want to reply! LOL

                                Maybe I should give my computer a good kick! It won't help anything, but I'll feel better.
                                :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                                Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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