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    #91
    November Mod Squad

    First, Welcome Milo, must be a Descendants fan, and I'm happy to hear everyone appears to be doing great! FFP, congrats on the wedding - I remember my wiedding, it was in Memphis, TN, a lot of fun (although I can't complain about being divorced now... :-)) Sorry, bad joke, I wish you're daughter all the happiness, you guys will have a blast

    so, Alkie, I said I give you my thoughts on Kudzu, I've been taking it regularily, the other thing you mentioned, glutamine, I think it was I'm not taking. So, short answer...I think it actually does work. I read some reviews about it and one guy had it down packed, it seems to rid any physically cravings, but the mental ones can still be there, e.g. if you're used to drinking say six beers at a sitting and wondering why you're only on two....etc....I think I know what he meant, that all too comfortable feeling of sitting down and your nerves unwinding...anyway...I had one night where I'd drink and one where it be more casual....

    Saturday I met my sister, she was playing a festival in Brooklyn. Now, I was driving, so it wasn't like I was going to drink a lot anyway. I did notice, for me at least, the effects of the alcohol, would be felt right away, not that like you were smashed, you just knew to slow down or put it down....the whole "cathing up to you all at once" wasn't happening. We were having a blast and were out pretty late. I was definitely fine to drive and I did. After I parked my car back on my garage in the City, I decided to go out, just to see how I felt, how much more I'd drink, etc. I want to sat it was definitely after midnight, maybe after one. I was in a good mood, so this could lead to sometimes, the one or more than I really need...not that I'd be severly hammered, just like..."why did I waste this money? etc."

    So, I ordered a beer, the few people I knew, "help" weren't too talkative and they were a bunch of freak shows in this local place near me. I felt fine, not even buzzed, but I literally had ZERO interest in drinking anymore..it was like, "this is boring." So I went home, pretty late, but definitelty not drunk and woke up fine the next day.

    We had a little bday party for my maniac twin boy nephews. This time, not even really looking to drink, maybe a beer to three. Make a long story short, after I nursed the first one, and REALLY nursed the second one, usually I'd have one more in a situation like this.....I actually had no desire, the idea was, I don't want to say sickening as you put it, just kind of like..."eh" So, that was that.

    My big test will have to be places where I have bad triggers...but so far, I think there's some truth to this herb. I by no means think it's a cure for addiction at all!! It's kind of like a diet pill that curbs appetite....Anyway, that is what I have to report on that matter for now.

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      #92
      November Mod Squad

      Hi, All and Welcome to Nancy and Milo,

      I, too, have been less active here of late, mostly busy with the twins, the move, and work, but I also feel less inclined to post as I'm just moving along with moderation. I had a couple of cravings this past weekend, both times were related to my old life when I used to drink at certain times. Though I'm pretty sure I could have gone into the bar or store and had/bought one or two, I decided both times not to bother, and sucked it up and went AF. So I'm counting on going AF until Wednesday afternoon when I'm meeting a few friends and may allow myself one or two. Going to be sure to not go over my two drink limit, though.

      V--work sucks, plain and simple. I need to get another job, but am putting in serious effort to try to make this one work in the mean time. The boys are doing well, though they're not progressing and moving to increasing consumption and decreasing number of feedings, nor are they stretching their long-stretch w/o eating at night. At best we get about 5 hours once a night....I think it's time to switch to a different nipple, though the Pediatrician told us not to a couple of weeks ago. We think he's ultra coservative, besides, we'll know quickly if it's too fast for them. They're 4 months tomorrow, and still using newborn nipples!

      LG, I'm reading a series by Koontz on the kindle, it has his "Odd Thomas" character featured. Hoping to see the movie "Life of Pi" over the holiday, if I can get my daughter and her friends to babysit....both wifey and I read the book.

      Eve, I haven't checked the monthly area in a few days, but I really think you're doing a great job with that.

      Stew--what's up with you and the married girl? Is this a serious commitment, or are you still playing the field, as your recent posts indicate? (Looks like I was writing this while you were posting immediately above this post!)

      FF, congrats on the wedding, hope your daughter has the perfect day.

      Happy Thanksgiving All. I'll check in a couple of times, but want everyone to know that I'm thankful for your help and support.:thanks:

      D
      Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
      When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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        #93
        November Mod Squad

        yes, I need to check the MM Board.


        D, as for me and X, that is still going on and it is serious. A deadline needs to be established I realize, and it will.

        I should probably be relatively AL free this week, I'm sure I'll have a glass of wine or two or a beer or two at Thanksgiving...Wednesday, historically, some friends like to go out, but I haven't heard from them, we shall see.

        I've been feeling rather lazy lately...i think that has to do more with the marathon than anything else, the recovery period, I went on a short run on Saturday, I might do one later tonight.

        I've had a hard time waking up, just want to lie in bed

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          #94
          November Mod Squad

          Hi D, thanks for starting this thread (hey, better late than never, right?)

          Hey DG, V, LG, Eve, FF... I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving (if so inclined). I see this has been a slow month on the board. with most of us being pretty busy, myself included.

          Hello Alc, Stew, Cash, TMH, Nancy, Lasha, Miles...(hope I haven't missed anyone).

          I can't say I've towed very many lines since last checking in but I haven't completely fallen off the deep end either. But I'm still standing and holding my head up, eventhough I'm find myself faking it sometimes this time of year.

          -HD
          Note to self: Stand and deliver! :bat

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            #95
            November Mod Squad

            Hey gang,

            As Hab Defender said, we have been quiet here although I personally have been posting daily on the 30 day AF thread. If you need a little inspirtation, be sure to check it out. It varies and I think has a lot of good info as we all plod along. The holidays are a busy time for folks. I think of D and how busy he is with 4 mo. old twins and so many things going on in everyone else's lives, new dogs, relationship concerns, etc. Keep happy and healthy everyone.

            :l
            Eve11
            "Control your destiny or somebody else will"

            ~Jack Welsh~:h

            God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me. ~Author unknown, :thumbs:

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              #96
              November Mod Squad

              Hi, everyone:

              I've been missing too. Got obsessed w other stuff: reading and watching Netflix ... Alcohol hasn't been much of an issue lately at all... It's kind of a background thing that I don't even think about. Even if I drink I stop at one. W the supplements, I seriously can't even imagine drinking the amount I used to drink on a daily basis. I actually now crave glutamine in the mornings. (Before, it was alcohol!).

              I'm going to Vegas this weekend. Definitely going to pack kudzu and glutamine!

              Stew: I think glutamine reduces my cravings (the micronized kind from GNC works great!!!!) and kudzu reduces the amount I can drink. I also feel buzzed or sicker faster but the studies show kudzu doesn't work by making you feel buzzed faster.... I donno.. Everyone is different, I guess!
              Alcoholic (or Ally)

              "Only a fool knows everything.
              A wise man knows how little he knows."

              Please feel free to block/ignore my posts through your control panel.

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                #97
                November Mod Squad

                Eve11;1418169 wrote: Hey gang,

                As Hab Defender said, we have been quiet here although I personally have been posting daily on the 30 day AF thread. If you need a little inspirtation, be sure to check it out. It varies and I think has a lot of good info as we all plod along. The holidays are a busy time for folks. I think of D and how busy he is with 4 mo. old twins and so many things going on in everyone else's lives, new dogs, relationship concerns, etc. Keep happy and healthy everyone.

                :l
                Eve11
                I love your 30 day AF thread Eve! :thanks:

                To tell the truth, I have been lurking there for a couple of days (and here). What I've read up to about day 13 so far, I can tell how much you so wonderfully care about people. :l
                Thank you so much for your labor of love, and I will be sure to use your post when I'm up for progressively realizing 30 days AF at least once again.

                It's a sticky for sure! :goodjob:

                -HD
                Note to self: Stand and deliver! :bat

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                  #98
                  November Mod Squad

                  Hi everyone, things have really gone quiet here lately. I haven't been checking in much lately either, I've just been busy with other things and just thinking about alcohol a lot less lately. Good to see ppl checking in though and updating how they are doing. Have a great trip to vegas Ally!

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                    #99
                    November Mod Squad

                    Thanks for the kind words Hab.

                    Yes, DG, and Ally, as folks start moderating better, often times they come here less and less as many don't need the daily support like a chronic alcohlic does. However, I think there can also be the slippery slope for alcohol abusers and if not careful, their moderation efforts can go into the toilet without good support, so just be cautious. I know I originally joined in 07 and got real confident with my moderation efforts and quit posting for a year. All of a sudden I was back to drinking without thinking...too many at a big event or just drinking with the crowd (and those would be the ones who drank too much!) So, I needed to come back for the support to moderate more successfully.

                    Late so will run. Good night all and post when you can!

                    :l
                    Eve11
                    "Control your destiny or somebody else will"

                    ~Jack Welsh~:h

                    God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me. ~Author unknown, :thumbs:

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                      November Mod Squad

                      Eve11;1418650 wrote: Thanks for the kind words Hab.

                      Yes, DG, and Ally, as folks start moderating better, often times they come here less and less as many don't need the daily support like a chronic alcohlic does. However, I think there can also be the slippery slope for alcohol abusers and if not careful, their moderation efforts can go into the toilet without good support, so just be cautious. I know I originally joined in 07 and got real confident with my moderation efforts and quit posting for a year. All of a sudden I was back to drinking without thinking...too many at a big event or just drinking with the crowd (and those would be the ones who drank too much!) So, I needed to come back for the support to moderate more successfully.

                      Late so will run. Good night all and post when you can!

                      :l

                      Eve11
                      Poking my head in to say hi and extend my thank you to Eve as well. I'm a chronic lurker and wanted to extend a great big thank you to Eve as well. Many of your posts have helped me put things into perspective and guided me back to control and sanity.:h
                      Seize the days folks.
                      Psalms 119:45


                      ?Start by doing what is necessary, then what is possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible.?

                      St. Francis of Assisi



                      I'm not perfect, never will be, but better than I was and not as good as I'm going to be.

                      :rays:

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                        November Mod Squad

                        Hi, All,

                        Thought I would check in, and let you know I'm doing well and busy with the boys, a daughter in the midst of college applications, and a move that's going to happen between Christmas and New Years. Each of the above present their own rollercoaster rides, so you can imagine it's been crazy!

                        I made it through the Thanksgiving holiday moderating pretty well. I had a glass of wine and a drink one night, and a couple of others where I just had a glass of wine, and have a bottle with one glass left in it that's been sitting there since the weekend. I'll put in another stretch of AF time, but will probably drink (moderately) over the Christmas/New Years stretch.

                        Hope everyone else is doing well.
                        D
                        Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
                        When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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                          November Mod Squad

                          D from ct: you have an older daughter as well?!

                          I'm moderating well too. I didn't do the 30 AF day. The supplements work and I hardly crave and when I drink no more than 1-2drinks.
                          Alcoholic (or Ally)

                          "Only a fool knows everything.
                          A wise man knows how little he knows."

                          Please feel free to block/ignore my posts through your control panel.

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                            November Mod Squad

                            Yes, I'm an old man, Alkie! Just married a wife that was hell-bent on having kids despite our ages (I'm 50, she's younger but in her 40's.) But having twin boys at my age is one reason I got sober. Dealing with them in the middle of the night is possible if I don't drink or at least don't drink to the point of getting buzzed. I couldn't imagine trying to do so if I drank like I used to!

                            I find that the less I drink and the less often, the less cravings I have.

                            D
                            Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
                            When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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                              November Mod Squad

                              DfromCT;1418875 wrote: I find that the less I drink and the less often, the less cravings I have.
                              D
                              D Good for you! My good friend Sunbeam said those exact words one time. She was an old modder and really someone who was looked up to as she was modding so well. She did start to share that the cravings lessened more and more over time. I'll let her tell details of her story if she pops in and wishes to tell that as we are reaching our 30 day end of being AF.

                              So, for the group following this 30 day thread, this will be a perfect time to reflect on the past and what is to be for our futures. Often times people feel so great without
                              alcohol in their systems that their livers have to detoxify that they just choose one day at a time not to drink. As I have discovered, many don't even name themselves as moderating or abstainng but just live day by day and try to reduce harm with the use of AL as much as they can. We are all a work in progrss.

                              :l
                              Eve11
                              "Control your destiny or somebody else will"

                              ~Jack Welsh~:h

                              God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me. ~Author unknown, :thumbs:

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                                November Mod Squad

                                I thought I'd check in as it's the last day of November, and I started this thread!

                                As you may have read elsewhere, I played cards last night and brought a bottle of wine. While I didn't intend on drinking the whole thing myself, being honest, I thought I'd have a good portion of it, and maybe even catch a small buzz. Truth is I drank the first glass over the course of somewhere between 1 and 2 hours, and watched as my friends finished their bottles and helped out with mine! (Yes, it helped my game, hurt theirs!)

                                Some of my friends were clearly getting a good buzz, while I remained sober. I watched one in particular make a mistake (that cost him for sure!) that he wouldn't make sober. I also watched an old friend, the person that introduced me to this group of what are now my best friends, be shunned by the group b/c he has become a serious problem drinker. He showed up last night and was hammered. Called my friend's son his brother, repeated himself often, and wasn't allowed into the card game b/c we knew he was too drunk to participate. He kept pulling out his wallet and trying to get in and we told him he couldn't. He'd forget 10 minutes later and try again!

                                It was sorrowful to watch someone (else) that's battled alcohol and gone through sober stretches be as drunk as he was. I also felt sorry for the games' host, who had to make sure he didn't drive home (though he arrived hammered). It makes me think of how easily that could be me, and how much I have going right in my life that I could literally pour away, were I to revert to my old ways.

                                With that sobering thought, I want to again count my blessings and thank all of you that have supported me since I decided to change my life back in July. I'm thankful for your help and friendship. I'll close out what may be my last post of the month by wishing everyone of all walks a very happy and healthy holiday season. :h

                                D
                                Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
                                When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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