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[Almostfamous]

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Good morning everyone! Seems like one great group. Janice and Ariel- my heart and thoughts goes out to both of you. Please know you have support here.

Duck - No offense taken here. I love humor!
Pinkie- hilarious story. How mortifying for the biker but that visual cracked me up.

Made it though yesterday a/f. So it's on to day 2. Wishing everyone a great weekend and I'll try to check back later.

[Arial]

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Thanks Pinkie - brilliant story and brought a smile to my face! - am still chuckling now :H Don't worry - your secret's safe with us! Have agreat day! Congrats Scorpio on day 2! - just get through the weekend and we'll already be on day 4 ! Time flies when you're enjoying yourself

[Doggygirl]

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Good Day 30 Day Abbsters!! This is a great thread.

((((Janice)))) I am so glad you have decided to dust off your supplements and CD's and join us. As sad as it seems, life will keep moving on whether you drink or you don't. I bet your Daddy is smiling on you today. Here is the CD list:

Day by Day instructions:

Day 1: Clearing Tracks 1&2, subliminal, sleep learning
Day 2: Hypnotic track 1, subliminal, sleep learning
Day 3: Subliminal, sleep learning
Day 4: Clearing track 2, subliminal, sleep learning
Day 5: Subliminal, sleep learning
Day 6: Hypnotic track 2, subliminal, sleep learning
Day 7: subliminal, sleep learning
Repeat for a total of one month or as needed.

Hope that helps, and hope I didn't mix anything up!

Arial I'm glad you are here too. I admire you for staying strong and sober so you can be there for your daughter. I'm sure it's tempting to hide in our favorite place. (How the Sam Hill do we get our heads through those tiny holes in the top of those bottles, anyway??) Onward Freedom Fighters...

Lucky I LURVE that Pope Duck!! Maybe someday I'll be brave enough to go public with my thoughts on the Great Pumpkin.

PINKIE!! Here's a Double Digit Quit Sista Tomato Juice/All One Clink right back at ya!! Congrats on Day 10. And THANK YOU for that bit of humor. LOLOL!!! I already told that story to Mr. Doggy and he was laughing his fanny off and usually he doesn't crack a smile before noon (not a morning person). Also, two guys in our dog training group are not only bikers, but HARLY dudes (including our actual dog trainer) and they will crack up at the notion of a BIKER getting busted by the bicycle cop. LOLOLOL!! Thank you - my job entertaining the troops today has just been made easier.

AF!! See? It IS destiny with your name!! Congrats on completing Day 1 and Happy Day 2.

**waving to Music Man** See what you started????? Hope you are setting up for a stellar day, and taking charge of things.

I know I'm missing somebody(s) - please accept my apologies. I am THRILLED beyond belief to be on Day 11. Now I've got 2 weeks in my gun sights!! It is AWESOME to wake up on Saturday without a hangover. And my house is verree clean and I didn't have to clean it. NANNY NANNY BOO BOO!! Eat your hearts out!! OK - that was obnoxious, I know.

DG
Day 11 AF * * * * * * * * * * *

[cloudjockey]

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good moring all, just checking in on day two. Last night was not so bad, now just through the weekend. So far I feel pretty good about this. Talk to everyone later, bye

[Janice]

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Hi everyone, thanks for your warm welcome - DG I owe you a big hug and a big apology cause you've tried reaching out to me many times over the last couple of weeks and I haven't wanted to know. To be honest, I've been like it here at home with everyone - I am sorry. Today I feel different and much better, more positive and ready to start again. Thank you for the cd programme, got my ipod charging up ready although I must admit I don't fancy those sleep learning ones again!! Well done on your progress DG and thank you for your motivating and inspiring posts. Have a good day everyone Janicexxxx

[Doggygirl]

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Janice now stop that. You do NOT owe me an apology. Although I am a very greedy sort, so will accept a hug any time night or day. So I shall consider myself hugged. I cannot even imagine what losing your Dad has been like. I am dreading that so much I can't even put it into words. My Dad is 75, and with some health problems. Even though I'm a putz and have not known at all what to say to you...and have said the wrong things at times....I know how much I will need friends when I go through what you've been through. Nuff said OK? I'm just glad you are here today looking to take a positive step for you.

DG

[buffy]

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Hi to everyone, you are all doing so well. I am the one that wanted to start this thread, and I am sorry to say I have already blown it. I have no excuses, but let me tell you what happened and maybe I will not let this happen to me again if I put it down in writing. I took my daughter shopping yesterday, we had a great time, but during our talking, I talked about not drinking and how I have a problem etc... She is almost 21, and has had some problems with substance abuse too. She tells me it is not a problem for her, and everyone drinks and when she goes to her friends houses all the parents are drinking and having fun and why do I make such a big deal about it. I don't argue with her because she is the master of arguing, I change the subject. We go home, hubby wants to go out to dinner, he wants to go to the fancy resturaunt where we always have had wine in the past. I start thinking, maybe my daughter is right!...we drink a bottle of wine...not so bad....go to our club...drink a glass....go home another bottle. I am happy to say I quit at that. My daughter comes home this morning after going to a friends house last night...hung over badly, she is supposed to be at work, she tells me she has a drinking problem, can't stop, and has been using drugs, coke. She says she can't sleep at night and has been taking Nyquil to sleep on top of it all. I am freaking out a bit. I told her that we will work on this together. We will start today to try and help each other. She has gone to work but I don't know how she will work all day the way she looked this morning. I don't know exactly what to do. I am so sorry that I let you all down and my family. I am really motivated to get a handle on this now. I am afraid for my daughter, I may have to take her to AA or something. I really think there is something genetic going on and she is getting it from both sides of the family. I am starting again....day 1 !!!! I am not sure I should post this, but here goes....any help or advice would be glady accepted. Buffy

[Doggygirl]

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Hi Buffy. I am sorry to hear about the situation this morning with you and your daughter. I too find it helpful to put things in writing. For some reason it just gives me a structure or something like that - to better organize my thoughts and plans for the future. Everything in the past, including yesterday, is there for you as a learning experience. I hope you will look critically at the conversations and events to LEARN from them rather than to feel quilty and depressed and worried and things like that. I suspect it's hard - especially when your daughter's life is a concern - not just YOUR life.

I dont' have kids, so take the following with a big fat grain of salt. I also may have misunderstood what you wrote...so just treat this as ONLY the 2 meager cents it is. A couple things that jumped off the page at me...

You mentioned your conversation with DD (dear daughter) yesterday about your drinking, and her providing the opinion that it's OK - all adults do it. I got the impression that her advice on that might have contributed to your decision to drink wine last night? If I got that part totally wrong, then disregard this next observation please. I don't know about your daughter. But I can say with certainty - at 21 years old I was not qualified in any way shape or form - with the necessary life exerience to advise my mother or any other older adult about drinking habits and what is a problem and what is not a problem. Just food for thought...

I'm sorry that your daughter ended up with a bad hangover and acknowledging drug use this morning. Cocaine is BAD NEWS which I'm sure you already know and most people here know. I will say that among my graduating high school class ('76) there are several who ended up dead from drug overdoses. Cocaine was quite popular in the late 70's and early 80's. I'm just happy that I personally had the good fortune to be allergic to either the coke itself, or something common in the cutting process because it made me sicker than a dog. But the high felt great at the time, and it's scary to me. Especially thinking about the dead people i know. Sorry to be such a bummer.

Just out of curiosity are you doing AA in addition to MWO? If not, I'm wondering why you think of AA as a good solution for your daughter and MWO as a good solution for you. I'm not criticizing that, just wondering and maybe it's food for thought. I truly hope that you and your daughter can both learn from this and help each other through.

I hope I have not overstepped my boundaries here with this feedback....

DG
Day 11

[pinkie]

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Buffy,

You did the right thing posting that! We all think we can handle some drinking at some point or the other and I wish I could but for some of us, we just cant! You realized immediatley that it wasnt for you, so you are back - heres to day 1!!!!

Your daughter is going to need your help, have you thought about bringing her here to see if MWO could offer some assistance? She might need more than that, but it is a start! I was additcted to Nyquil for over 10 years to help me sleep, that was before I was drinking nightly (might have been a clue into what was coming but I just thought I needed it to sleep).

Try to stay on top of her without smothering her, be open and honest with her about your own problems and she will feel more comfortable confiding in you. Sounds like you two have a great relationship and this might even bring you closer together!

Good luck

[buffy]

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Thank you so much Doggy and Pinkey for writing back so soon. You are right Doggy about not taking advice from a 21 yr old....I think it was a seed that was planted and I used it as an excuse. I hope I will recognise it better next time. I think she used it too and told herself that it was ok when the opportunity came about to drink and take drugs. I know that sounds weird that I get on here and don't want her to. I am a bit nervous about her reading my posts. I have used this as my own little world. She might be upset about me talking about her problems and I am not sure if I want her in my head...? I may go back and delete some posts and see if she is interested in doing some reading after I talk to her more. I wonder if her and I went to AA together it might help, but so many have said that AA doesn't work, although I have met people that go and have had it work for them. I guess I am confused and willing to do just about anything, short of sending her to some rehab....Doggy you most certainly did not overstep your boundries, I appreciate your input so much and am starting to feel a bit better. Thanks again to you too Pinkey....I will try not to smother....how did you know?...haha

[Doggygirl]

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Hi Buffy. I'm glad my armchair quarterback type observations/questions did not offend. It is so easy for us (and I mean "us" broadly) to utilize the least little thing as an excuse. I had over 30 years practice at doing that - so I'm quite good at it myself!

I can certainly understand your concern about needing your own private place to talk opening about your issues without your daughter reading. Yikes - didn't think about it that way. Don't have a good suggestion on that front. I know people where AA has worked great for them, and others that don't care for that method. I'm sure the same can be said for every program - I suspect MWO isn't everyone's cup of tea either. Wow. I'm sure that others will be along with some good suggestions and I will surely come back if anything remotely interesting comes to mind. Wait..You know what? One of my good friends who quit drinking several years ago (and that was with AA) has a son about your daughter's age who has struggled with alcohol and drug issues since he was about 15 or 16. I've been wanting to tell her that I have finally quit - she's a terrific friend even though we are long distance friends now. We used to be party pals when we worked together years ago. Since I have been planning to talk to her anyway, I will ask her what she might consider (or what she has done) to work with her son, but also keep some privacy for her and for him in their recoveries.

I'll let you know if any interesting suggestions come up.

OK - back to dog training now. It's a high trigger day, so I just popped up to my office quick (geez - glad I caught the typo "pooped up to my office..) to reach out and touch my AF life line here!! It's going well though. I may actually brave the liquor store to buy beer for the guys since nobody brought any. I feel really good today (even though i still like to reach out and touch the life line once in awhile!). I KNOW I won't drink, and this will be good practice - another notch on my belt to solidify my new resolve of an AF life.

Dg

[Almostfamous]

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Hi all,
Buffy- I almost cried when I read your post. Thanks for your honesty. I think your daughter opened up since you were so honest w/ her. I think it is a postitive thing for both of you to go through your demons together. I have two parents that barely drink at all so I don't quite know where my issue came from.

Janice- I hope you are hanging in there. I am very close to my parents and can only imagine the pain I will face one day. You sound like you are trying and that is terrific.

Doggy- Thanks for your awesome attitude. No need to look backwards! The future (and present) is MUCH brighter. I told my hubby I am avoiding alcohol for 30 days to "lose some pounds before our trip." He really has now idea how much my drinking escalated over the last year.

Day 2 is looking good for me so far. Thanks to everyone for being so welcoming. Musicman- thanks for starting this thread!
It's a great group and I am sure more great people will join us!

[buffy]

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Capricorn...thanks!...I tried to pm you but it is blocked..I am also a capricorn...Dec 25th

[Almostfamous]

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DG- You will definatley NOT be "pooping" in your office now that you are sober! : ) Ha! ha!

[buffy]

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Hey DG...that sounds great about asking your friend. It is so awful that kids get started with this so young. Maybe it will be a blessing in the long run if she can get a handle on it early instead of messing up years like I have. Love ya....Buffy