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    #91
    Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

    MM - that fire sounds really scary. What state are you in (don't give that info if you don't feel comfortable). I'm a tad behind on the news. I hope they get it under control quickly.

    You bring up what to me is an interesting point re: forgetting to take the Topa on Friday. (Congrats on choosing the AF beer and keepin' yer quit!!) One of the reasons I've been cutting back on the Kudzu and L-Glut is becuase I really don't want my sobriety to depend on remembering other things. Maybe that's crazy?? I'm sure I make it harder on myself. And I can CERTAINLY see taking things - Topa, Supps, or other meds when that's the difference between drinkin' to the stinkin' point v. being able to quit. I certainly credit Kudzu and L-Glut along with the rest of the program for that!! Anyway...just sort of thinking out loud about the future......wondering if others think about this stuff, and what you think....

    Welcome Innerstrength aka Jen!! Congratulations on Day 10. We look forward to having you as part of this nutty group! Eh em. Us girls get to look at handsome male cheerleaders when celebrating our 30 day anniversaries. NO booze could taste better than our handsome booze bustin' men LOOK that is for SURE! IMO, it DOES get easier. Part of the challenge is breaking away from the physical desire to drink. Another big part of the challenge for me anyway (as a former daily, all day sipper drinker) has been re-structuring my day to day life. Yes, I somehow managed to get the absolute basics done (how I do not know!). But now I can be proactive about a BETTER daily life. I'm still learning my way down that path. But it beats the snot out of drinking away every single day of my life.

    I have never once met a person who has been AF for a year or more (sometimes many years) who doesn't LOVE their AF life way more than they enjoyed their drinking life. I try to keep that in mind whenever I have a day where I'm thinkin' of stinkin' drinkin'.

    Hi rob! Hi Mary!

    Finding, I can sure understand your desire to make choices for YOURSELF. I personally don't like the word "alcoholic." I think there is such stigma associated with that word (i.e. visions of a person in tattered clothes passed out in a public doorway having tinkled on self...etc.) I think there is often too much internal debate strictly about whether one believes one is an "alcoholic" or "not." For me, the labels don't mean squat - the important issues are "what happens when I drink." I don't have a fully functional off switch. I get hungover. The quality of my work and my life suffers. Stuff like that. Call it whatever words or labels are out there...but drinking was controlling way too much of my life and my time for my taste.

    Well, that's sure more than 2 cents worth!

    The power went back off. Cussing and swearting, we moved all the food from the fridge/freezer in the kitchen back to the garage. Unwound all the power cords again, ran them all over the house and fired up the generator. Of course, doing that right away was the SURE way to get the power back on, which it is now. Well guess what. We probably won't be winding up all the cords and moving the food again for a couple days no matter what!

    DG
    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


    One day at a time.

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      #92
      Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

      Hi all,
      I have to type quickly. I wish I could address you all. I am entering day 16. I managed to have a lemonde at my fav. local Mexican restaurant on Friday night. My hubby was nice and ordered soda so it wasn't as tempting. The rain here finally came to a halt. Work has kept me busy so I will try to check in when I can. Wishing you all a great Monday!!!!!
      AF since 2/22/2012

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        #93
        Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

        Hello All!

        Well, got Monday under my belt. Actually had a good sleep last night, tried taking a herbal insomnia formula, which has valerian in it, among other things. Hubby took some too, and he was prob the most relaxed I have seen him since our drinking days. I suggested to him he should take one when he gets home at night, and he actually agreed!

        DG and Satori - I hear you re marriage being a two way street. I don't intend to do anything I am not comfortable with. I only encouraged hubby to explore this starting own business thing so that he would actually look at it, and hopefully decide it wasn't feasible, and let it die. I didn't want to hear him moon over what could have been for the rest of our lives. And I think the reality is starting to sink in - he has already realized that a busines on the scale he was intending would take way more investment capital than we could scare up, and is downsizing his ideas. I really think in time it will die a natural death :fingers: But I have to let him do the research and figure that out for himself, if you know what I mean.

        Hubby and I always have been big walkers, and we enjoy golfing together. So we still do have things in common other than the drinking. What probably makes it seem different now than the last time we quit is that we are now also dealing w empty nest syndrom, i.e., there is no teenager around to demand all our attention and time, and we never HAD tp look for something to talk about because he was usually it. I'm sure we will adjust, just will take time.


        DG - Glad your power is back on (again). Sorry about all the mess. What a shame about the big old oak tree. Do you have a fireplace at least? Did your dogs go bonkers when it was storming? I've known lots of dogs to "chase" lightening, and others that cower under the bed!

        Anyone heard from Starlight Impress the last few days? She started a thread on Saturday and sounded upset, and haven't seen her here since? She said she was 3 days away from being 30 days AF then, and so should be a party for her, I'm thinking. But hope she's alright. Starlight, give us a shout, ok?:h

        MM - Hope the fire thing is getting under control. When hubby and I were first married we got evacuated because of a forest fire, so I know exactly how you feel. If you do get evacuated, they will give you no time at all to get your stuff together, so if things are still bad I would recommend throwing a few things into a suitcase now, and not later, because you will be way too shook up to think straight if that should actually happen. Praying that it doesn't, and thing are settled down now. Thinking of you, stay strong! :l

        Welcome, Innerstrength. As Rob would say, welcome to our little travelling salvation show! Congrats on 10 days!

        Rob, you asked how my BIL is doing. He is very weak, but hasn't changed much for the last while. Still has the IV, and since they gave him a glucose IV instead of just saline, he has been holding his own. Not much of a life, but it is what it is. They have set up a hospital bed in the living room, which is just off their family room, and he sleeps there at night and Wendy sleeps on a matress on the floor. (Thier bedroom is on the second floor, and Guerrino can't do stairs anymore) During the day Guerrino mostly lies on the couch and watches TV or if the weather is warm, lies on the deck swing. Heaven only knows how long he will go on this way, I am continually amazed and humbled by his strength. I am glad that he has been granted this time because for a long time he was very angry, and hadn't moved out of that phase of acceptance to the point where he was able to connect w his family the way he and they need to, and to have a measure of peace. We are going to visit again this weekend.

        Satori - So you enjoyed the show? Don't we look better w an extra week or so of sobriety under our belt? (Ha!) Actually, I hear you re the cravings too. I have had a few more of them lately myself, prob just due to the anxiety re the whole setting up business thing, etc. I did get my Kudzu last week, but haven't taken any - cravings are not THAT bad. However, I find myself snacking and am in danger of losing my newfound abs if I don't smarten up. But better junkfood than wine, right? Hope your back feels better soon - that for sure is no fun.

        FMF - Glad you are still around. Remember, that being AF is also a choice!

        Hi to Mary, Cindi, and anyone I missed. Have a good night, and talk at ya tomorrow!

        :award: *********
        The furture lies before you like newly fallen snow - be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

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          #94
          Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

          Satori

          Re your field of work - small world isn't it? What would be really funny is if my hubby and you know of each other - he has contacts in many different countries. :specs: mg
          The furture lies before you like newly fallen snow - be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

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            #95
            Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

            :whee: But - Don't worry - I won't ask him any questions, or anything. It would kind of blow the whole anominity thing, wouldn't it? It's a small world after all . . . .
            The furture lies before you like newly fallen snow - be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

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              #96
              Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

              Hi folks,

              Tuesday morning dawns bright and warm here again in Scotland - it has been great weather here since the kids went back to school - so the weather is helping to lift spirits (NO! - not the alcohol kind!) here.

              Doggy - in the interests of helping and supporting others here - might I suggest we call a truce and end our little disagreement. :truce: I agree not to whine about everyone else's cheerleaders, if you agree to stop blaming me for your garden blowing away - OK?
              (you still started it tho' ........!!!)

              Is your power staying on this time?
              I hear you re the non fully-functioning OFF switch - made me think there must be a store room somewhere full of OFF Switches that someone forgot to install.
              Mind you - perhaps they didn't get installed in all of us on purpose - could you imagine what we would all be like if we had fully functional electrics?
              PERFECT- that's what - It just wouldn't be fair on the rest of humanity - yep - that must be it!

              Jen - we have not "met" yet - welcome to the group and congratulations on day 11 - yep it gets easier - and you are definitely past the very worst bit!!
              So saying - I am having some MAJOR cravings lately - 41 days in! So I guess it takes a while!
              I am the sensible one around here BTW - I try to keep the others under control - but basically they are NUTZ - so I am fighting a losing battle most of the time! (sigh!)

              Starlight -
              Where are you.............Where are you.............you?
              Awfully empty here without you - see there is even an echo!!
              Must be day 30 for you - PLEEEZ tell us you are OK!
              I tried to post on your Saturday thread twice yesterday - and tried to PM you too but they wouldn't go!!!
              Seems Finding and I are having similar problems - I keep getting a "page not found" error!

              Don't cave lass - if the going gets tough - forget the delicate booting of booze bezst butts!
              Deal with it in the traditional Scots way -

              "Pick a windae Beastie - Yer leavin'!"

              Lilac - you too - where are yooooooooo?????????

              Finding - are you going to smak our botties if Doggy and I don't stop bickering??????
              Might just have to prolong the argument for a while longer -!
              Finding - step away from that cricket bat!
              How's the wedding plans going? Have you got a HUUUUUGE hat yet - it is compulsory I believe!
              As for being a nice MIL - sorry - as soon as your daughter is wed the MIL gene switches on!
              Horns and tail sprout overnight - trust me - I'm a married man!

              Meditation - Fire out? You OK?? Your Spa / Home OK???
              Makes me realise I shouldn't complain about the Scottish weather!

              HannahDeb

              Yep - small world - especially the oilpatch! - I'm sure if you showed your hubby my avatar and asked him if he knew anyone like that in his line of business in Scotland he would recognise me if he had met me!

              Not too worried about folks knowing I'm on here really - I am what I am! At least I am doing something about it!

              Almost - well done on day 16/17 and sticking to the lemonade!
              Hubby not drinking must help - I still have not gently nudged SWMBO into giving up her wine yet!

              She even asks me to buy a bottle for her now and then! She is drinking about 2 bottles in a week at the moment - not REALLY excessive - but it IS above the UK guideline amount for safe drinking for unfair sex.

              She shows some of the signs of alcohol dependence! (Trust me - I recognise them!!)
              Strangely - she DOES have an off switch - but it is her ON switch that seems to be stuck! She can usually stop after one or two glasses - but - when she comes in from work at night - the wine bottle is often the first port of call!
              I can see the planning processes she uses to make sure she always has a bottle available etc!
              I guess I should be glad - she used to drink a bottle a night several years ago when she had a really high stress job!
              But - I worry about her!
              (LOL - Didn't give a sh*t about myself for 20+ years - but I DO worry about her!)

              I think I might try some of the valeriam based sleep aid stuff too. I sleep just fine when I get to sleep - it is just that I am a "night" person - and never feel like sleep until 1am. then I am tired when I have to get up for work the next day. So - if I take some valerian about 9pm - I MIGHT go to bed at a decent hour!
              So many things to sort out!

              Anyway - FAR too much boring rambling going on here today.

              Hi to everyone else I have not specifically mentioned - and hi to all to come today!

              Off to conquer day 41

              Love

              Satori
              xxx

              :award: +**********

              (I REALLY hope this post goes!!!!!)
              "Though there are many paths at the foot of the mountain - all those who reach the top see the same moon - as any fule kno"

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                #97
                Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                Finding - are you going to smak our botties if Doggy and I don't stop bickering??????
                Might just have to prolong the argument for a while longer -!
                Finding - step away from that cricket bat!
                How's the wedding plans going? Have you got a HUUUUUGE hat yet - it is compulsory I believe!
                As for being a nice MIL - sorry - as soon as your daughter is wed the MIL gene switches on!
                Horns and tail sprout overnight - trust me - I'm a married man!

                (Um, howdya do this quote thingy??! clicked 'quote' but nowt happened.)

                Satori - I see I am going to have to take you on one side!!!! Would it be more effective in big cream hat and cricket bat with horns and tail..... do I see why I am single??! Perhaps finishing the dress would be a good idea after all.... Hmmm. DG - what do you think?
                Well, plans going OK - 'should' be doing things right now but I'm here and it's fun! (And good for me too.) Will post the hat - if I can work out how - dunno about the MIL!!!!! (Oh GOd, don't say I'll be like my ex-MIL............enuf to put me back on the bottle....only joking reallly!)


                But - I worry about her!
                (LOL - Didn't give a sh*t about myself for 20+ years - but I DO worry about her!)

                What a sweetie you are.....SWMBO is one lucky lady I think.....thoughtful, kind, loving AND sober....wow!

                I hope everyone has a very good day/evening....off to do things now....the dress is still only tacked, must machine it now it fits or it'll fall off and I will
                be left in just the hat :wow: Most unbecoming for a 'Lahy-ee-dee"!!!! The jacket comes back from the seamstress today (down TWO sizes?!?!?!) "coz she's going away and in case I need it for this weekend...." ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Um, wot!

                Love to everyone - thinking of you.
                Finding xx
                :heart: c: :heart:
                "Be patient and gentle with yourself - the magic is in you."

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                  #98
                  Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                  Hi ya

                  I go away for the weekend and I've so much to catch up on with you all. Promise I will write more when I get the chance to read later in my lunch break.

                  I am on day 14 today.....I had to think about that!! The lounge has been painted and all the furniture has been put back so one less thing to stress about. I bought myself
                  a bottle of schloer non-alcoholic bucks fizz last night to "chill out". I thought it was really good. I am sleeping much better now. Although I am eating more chocolate now....maybe something to do with the sugar!.

                  Hope you are all well. Catch up with you all soon.

                  Mandy x

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                    #99
                    Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                    Finding My Feet;186291 wrote: Satori - I see I am going to have to take you on one side!!!! Would it be more effective in big cream hat and cricket bat with horns and tail.....

                    Finding xx
                    Finding - that image of you is going to stay with me for a LOOOOONG time! .

                    Love

                    Satori
                    xxx
                    "Though there are many paths at the foot of the mountain - all those who reach the top see the same moon - as any fule kno"

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                      Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                      Hi Satori, Finding, Rob, DG, Hannah, Lotus, Almost Famous, db2, Buffy, MM, July, Arial, Retteacher, Innerstrength, and anyone I have not remembered, just for once remembered most names. Hope you all had a good weekend, and are all doing well on your af days, high numbers or low.

                      Had a good weekend with son, dil, and beautiful 4 year old granddaughter. Fortunately, I was so worn out playing/entertaining granddaughter, I was too tired in the evening to think about having a drink!! Plus the fact my son did as I asked, and did not buy any wine especially for me, which helped tremendously.

                      Yesterday was day 12 AF for me, over a third of the way to 30 days, I feel quite good, it seems the stronger Kudzu I ordered from this site is better than the one I had used before, which has helped keeping those cravings at bay, I take my last dosage of supps as late as I can, about 8.00 p.m. Also, reading all your posts is a very important factor for me in this journey, they are so helpful, they make me think, but they also make me smile . Although I say I feel quite good, I am not being complacent, I know I could so easily give in to "just the one", so I am being vigilant, and try to make sure I keep myself busy at the "trigger time", which is 7.30 p.m. for me. I think we all have to do whatever works for us to kick this booze beastie in the bum.

                      :l To everyone already here, and also :l to those that follow.

                      Mary:h

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                        Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                        Hello my AF Friends!

                        I real quick check in before I am off...

                        Thank you all for your kind workd and thoughts . The fire is still RAGING, in fact is is getting bigger and half the town is being evacuated. We are OK as we live by the river, and the spa is OKas it is right downtown, but it is really sad to watch. The air is HORRIBLE. You can't see two block ahead. The schools have been delayed starting now until next week and the kids are very anxious. It scares them. We are trying to talk to DD and keep her informed, but she is scared. They have called in the national guard.. it's quite a sight. I think it is such a big deal because it is so close to the ski resort, the town and a lot of homes to people like Sen. John Kerrry, Gov. Schwarzenegger, big money folks and celebrities.. I guess that is a good thing for a us.. So, luckily, most of those who have had to be evacuated just went to one of there other hoomes... but for us locals - It looks like a war zone with all the police and national guard.. pretty surreal...

                        Anyway hanging in there!!! Day 11 here and feeling really strong. I'll check in with everyone later....

                        Happy 30 to Starlight Impress!! Hope to hear from you!!

                        MM
                        Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them, but do not let them master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight.

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                          Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                          madisonmay;186398 wrote: Yesterday was day 12 AF for me, over a third of the way to 30 days,
                          Well done Mary - bet you are beginning to feel a lot better about a lot of things by now!
                          It was about there that I started to really pick up some extra energy!!


                          BTW I see you are in Liverpool - just made me remember - one of my mates at Uni was from the 'pool.
                          Back in these days as motorcyclist types we listened to heavy rock most of the time.

                          If the Beatles came on the radio and someone complained about the music - he would always say in a very broad Liverpool accent.

                          You lot are peasants you are, - thats CULTURE that is! :H

                          LOL - had forgotten about that!

                          Have a good one!

                          Satori
                          xxx
                          "Though there are many paths at the foot of the mountain - all those who reach the top see the same moon - as any fule kno"

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                            Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                            GOOD DAY BOOZE BUSTERS!!! I dont' know how the sam hill it happened, but I slept in until 6AM this morning. WOO HOO!!! I enjoy being up early and having "me" time to get the day started, but a sleep in was mighty nice too. I've got some kickass in my kudzu today I tell you!! (and the power is on..)

                            First off, Satori I will accept your truce. Although the number and quality of cheerleaders is important! We can shake and make up. **mom HE started it he was looking at me!**

                            AF congratulations on Day 17 today, and the lemonade at the Mexican place. I need to remember that. I good cold lemonade would be good in a place where margaritas abound. I've been making home make lemon-limeade to mix my All One vitamins with. I use Stevia to sweeten it. It's pretty good. I think I shall have some of that extra next time the dog training after glow comes around. You are ROCKIN' IT this time around girl!! Hey - we need to get some advertising jobs while our butts are still big enough. I can always use a little extra coin.

                            HannahB - happy day 40!! May I ask what herbal formula you and hubby took that you found relazing and helpful for sleep? Inquiring minds want to know! It sounds like Mr. HB is doing a great job researching the business. I'm sure it will all work out well in the end. You asked about our dogs and the storms. At the first sign of thunder storms or strong winds, we hustle the dogs into the house. There are so many trees that one worry with any storm is a branch coming down on one of them. I had a VERY storm afraid dog in my past - these are nothing like that. They get a little nervous so they bark more and pick on each other more. So for peace in the house, they usually spend serious storms in their kennels.

                            I'm thinking of you and your family and Guerrino. I hope you have a good visit this coming weekend. ((((HannahB and family)))) Guerrino's situation is so sad....

                            Happy Day 41 Satori and no - you are never boring. I hope that you work out the on switch thing with SWMBO in a way that both of you are happy. One person quitting drinking really does change the dynamic in the relationship and adjustments have to be made by one or both. Mr. Doggy is a night owl too. He has such a problem falling asleep cuz his mind is still moving fast. And of course there is the flip side issue in the AM!

                            FMF you and Satori are crackin me up here over your dress, hat, MIL horns and weaponry. Remember the song "The Streak" from the early 70's (or late 60's?)? I have a vision of your dress falling off and you running around in circles like a crazy person in your big foofy wedding day hat and your MIL horns and weaponry. OH MY - your daughter would disown you!! **must get these thoughts out of my head so I can stop laughing**

                            Hi Lotus Mandy and congrats on Day 14!! I had really BAD sugar cravings the first few weeks - couldn't get enough gummy fish and ice cream (not at the same time). I am too heavy anyway, plus gained some when I quit smoking, and a few more when I quit drinking so had to put a stop to THAT madness. The first several days without any sugar or "whites" were rough, but now it's OK and Mr. Scale is being good. Like you - I figured gummy fish were better than booze to get over that initial hump though!!

                            Madisonmay Mary! Congrats on Day 13. It sounds like your weekend was fabulous!! 4 years old is such a cute age, but I bet she wore you out!!. Welcome back home.

                            MM - I hope you are OK and they got the fires under control.

                            STARLIGHT!!! If anyone is able to reach her, could you post here in this thread??

                            Hope all the other Booze Busters are doing fine - CALL HOME!!!!!

                            DG who LURVES electricity
                            Day 49 AF
                            :award: + * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
                            Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                            Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                            One day at a time.

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                              Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                              MM - I'm glad you are safe and it seems that your home and spa will be safe. I bet the scene is VERY bizarre. I hope they get the fire out soon.

                              Congrats on keeping your AF days going through this. I'm sure a drink sounds good, but I'm also sure you will be better able to handle things if something unexpected happens by NOT drinking. Good job!!! Be safe MM..

                              DG
                              Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                              Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                              One day at a time.

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                                Booze Busters 30 Day Challenge - 8/21 New Thread!

                                Hi Satori

                                Of course the Beatles were culture!! Liverpool is also celebrating a special day today, the city is 800 years old, I promise you I haven't been around that long!! I am not even going to parttake in a celebratory alcohol drink, but will enjoy the fireworks later on tonight with a glass of grape juice with tonic water. Glad you have happy memories of your Liverpool pal.

                                :l Mary

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