Vegas was a bad deal

[YoungAtHeart]

Vegas was a bad deal

Hey Deter, Does DX have a fraternal male twin just like her? She is the best. I would like someone like her for my next birthday, please.

In all seriousness, my dear, I think you moderate very well, except for one thing. You always end up going over the top. Maybe not as bad as this time. You do really well for a while, but then something cracks. Maybe this would happen anyway if you went for complete ABs, I don't know. If you and DX can deal with the occasional foul up, that is up to you. It seems though, that the consequences are getting pretty bad.

I'm encouraging you to go for ABs, but I'll love you no matter what you decide.:h

I'm not a doctor, but I am in the health care field.

:l :l

[gabby]

Vegas was a bad deal

D, just wondering if you dont mind me askin....how long were you af?

[Cinders]

Vegas was a bad deal

Deter,

Damn. How long were You?

Have cats and dogs asking. LOL

Not laughing. How long were you?

Love, and I mean LOVE
Cindi

[Cinders]

Vegas was a bad deal

I am literally a few days.

[Determinator]

Vegas was a bad deal

Gabby I don't mind at all being frank with you. before my VEgas slip I was about 10 days AF. and din't do great at that time(prior to vegas) but not too made. YAH is quite adroit. I manage to mod not too badly 95% of the time. it's that 5% that puts me down for the count. and BTW If I could clone Dx I'd be richer than Donald Trump for sure, and YAH would get the first prototype gratis.
my greatest thanks to you all.. AFM, Mary, Cindy, Chief, Tkeene, Chef, and the rest that I don't have the presence of mind to recall. My apologies for that.

[Determinator]

Vegas was a bad deal

Db how long was I ? I'm not sure I understand.
also I must ask: what does mendacity mean? I'm a high school dropout after all

[southernbelle47]

Vegas was a bad deal

Alcohol=untruthfulness

[Prest4time]

Vegas was a bad deal

D,

I hope you're feeling a little better tonight, and you are truly blessed with such a loving and supportive wife in Dx. So many do not have that... can you imagine coming home to get kicked out or told you blew your last chance? I too have a very supportive spouse, so lets do all we can to express that love back. For me, it means learning (its a process I know) to recognize when I am nurturing my relationship with alcohol more than I am investing in my marriage. The returns suck when I do not invest wisely.

I hope you feel better soon, and be kind to yourself in the meantime.

Allie

[wonderworld]

Vegas was a bad deal

Determinator you say that 95% of the time moderating is working for you, and 5% not. Is there something you can identify that is different about those times? Your supps, health, stress level, meds, mind frame? Maybe there are no hard answers there - maybe it's just random and unpredictable, but I would wonder. And maybe Vegas was just too much right now - the atmosphere is just so seductive. That's what Vegas IS after all -EXCESS and forget reality and all. I couldn't go there right now, no way, even if it were to meet RJ herself .

Hope you are feeling better-
wonder xx

[Determinatrix]

Vegas was a bad deal

Wow. Thank you all for such loving support.
We really need it right now.

Dx

[Determinator]

Vegas was a bad deal

indeed this is alll true. I have asked Dx to administer antabuse to me when I am fully recovered. that is abig step and It's taken some guts to get ther. thank you friends,
Det.

[Cinders]

Vegas was a bad deal

Det,

Several folks yesterday mentioned I should consider Antabuse, too.

Yes, it is a scary thought but you know what? If you know you CAN'T possibly drink, perhaps you won't drink.

I am seriously considering it.

I must stay strong at least for a while until we get daughter figured out. Drinking will only make me useless.

I am glad you are on the mend. I know it is tough.

You and Dx take care.

Love,
Cindi

[toughintexas]

Vegas was a bad deal

D, that's a great idea, just make sure you do not take a drink, PERIOD...and know this....anabuse stays in your system for weeks...some folks after about 30 dys, just take it like MWF, you WILL end up in the ER if you even have 1 drink...so please, don't tempt fate..tell DX to hit you in the head with a baseball bat....lol....she'd probably get a kick out of it herself! Love to you both!

[magic]

Vegas was a bad deal

Hey D,

Shit happens and you fucked up. Recovery will be more difficult every time.

One of the things I will always keep in my bag of tools is remembering the withdrawals and DT's~and looking for librium. Just the memory of those days and nights is a nightmare.

There was no one here to take care of me, just me, and the strange things I could see in the bedroom. The CT scan following the seizure suggested I had the brain of a 70 year old.

I've been sober a long time now but I still have those memories.

I wish I had THE definative answer as to why you and I can't drink but I don't. Isn't it enough that your body is telling you that you can't?

You have loving support at home and here. Do you have professional support as well?
I adore my shrink~he has been my partner in sobriety for a long time.

The answers are not going to come to you in black and white in point form. They will come from with in you. What ever it takes.

I do hope you are feeling better today with the librium but also that you don't forget the last couple of days. Your body is telling you it's time. I think that your loving wife is too.

magic xx

[Determinatrix]

Vegas was a bad deal

oh magic.
That was nice.

I liked "the answers...will come from with in you."

Dx