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    #16
    AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

    Good morning Ab-chievers!!! (oh my - I bet you're hoping THAT nick name doesn't stick!)

    Beatle, thank you for starting us off today! Like Mary, I really enjoyed yesterdays thread too - lot's good discussion and new ideas and perspectives for me. I've been saying to myself for the longest time "I should go to an AA meeting to see what it's like and see if it's another good tool for my sobriety..." But just haven't done it. I think when the hour gets more reasonable here, I will figure out where to call to get a list of meetings. Can't have too much support! There was a time when I probably would have been rebellious (in my head) about some of the AA principals, but now I believe I am in a better frame of mind to "take what I like and leave the rest" as is often said!

    And Beatle, your jokes ALWAYS make me smile!!

    Mary - I too am here first and foremost to learn how to build a satisfying sober life. I enjoy a little socializing too, but I don't like losing focus on the reason I'm here. I love that each day, we generally end up talking about a good and relevant topic (or multiple topics) specifically related to sobriety. I too stick to only specific threads on the forum that I know contribute positively to mine and others sobriety. (no offense to anyone else - we're all different)

    Cassey - I hope you made it through the night OK. I too had to learn the hard way that moderation doesn't work for me. I'm sorry to hear that there are some challenging things going on in your life right now. I will share with you a pearl of wisdom someone shared with me early on - and I've found it to be very very true. "Nothing in life is so bad that drinking alcohol won't make it worse." I have come to value my sobriety the MOST during difficult times where my loved ones need me to be alert and able to do things like drive safely, etc. Checking out with booze never makes problems go away, and usually makes problems worse. Welcome to the Daily AF thread and I hope you find help here as you build a sober life.

    Kap & Guitarista, good to hear you both sounding so positive and optimistic about life without AL! I was so glad when I finally "got" that part. Alcohol is sure limiting in life, especially the way I was - a prisoner in my own home with my bottle(s).

    On the subject of AL in the house. My poisons of choice back "in the day" were Vodka and Vino. I don't know how it would be to have either of those here in the house - and I'm not willing to find out any time soon. However there are other things here - leftover scotch and stuff like that from long ago parties and there is also beer in the garage. Those were not *my* poisons and it's funny but they don't bother me at all. The hard liquor in particular is VERY well aged and was all here when I was drinking heavily. I didn't drink it then either - always managed to keep a hefty supply of *my* poisons on hand. Funny - Mr. Doggy and I were talking about that just a couple days ago. We were thinking we should box up whatever is still good and take it to our dog trainer who will be hosting a party in a couple of weeks. And throw out anything that seems bad. I could use the cabinet space in the kitchen for something more productive that's for sure.

    Well, the repair on the pin hole leak in the pipe within our boiler heating system did not hold. The guy who accidentally made the hole during a project last summer could not easily get to the pipe with a soddering (sp) iron - there is wood very near the hole so he couldn't get it hot enough to sodder without starting a fire, or tearing out a big hunkin' part of the wall. So we tried a type of epoxy that is made for under water repairs and stuff. Well, it didn't hold. It held for a couple days, but thank goodness I was in my office after dinner last night (I'm usually not) so I heard it when it started hissing. So....I will get to babysit this repair project again today while Mr. Doggy is at training. And my guess is that part of the wall will have to be torn up now. This stuff is so frustrating. I will need all my seratonin and endorphin power today. Already took and L-Tryp and will be at Curves when they open at 7! And there might be a GABA in my future too! I'm really learning the value of working on my stress levels to keep them down as much as possible. I do need to look at meditation!

    Anyway, that's what is new here!

    DG
    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


    One day at a time.

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      #17
      AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

      Very true AA. Although like you. I NEVER enjoyed my drinking. I started due to tragedy and went from 0-60 quick..I started with the intent to get and be drunk...I wanted to be numb. However, it was not my intention that I wouldnt be able to stop when I was ready to cope with what had happened...that was a SURPRISE. What I find odd is I did moderate for YEARS.. I attend social gathering had a glass of wine left and never thought another thought of it. So, what changed? Body chemistry? I am not going to put alot of thought in to that as it doesn't really matter. I DID that already. I tried to mod...I can't.

      I do not bring Al in to my home, but I do not avoid it out side of the home...say in social gatherings for work. I would never leave this house. It is impossible. Now, if I see folks getting smashed, I may leave a tad earlier than some, but I do show up.
      Forever loved, forever missed Papa Bear

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        #18
        AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

        Hi Britt and AA and Cinders - Happy Saturday!!!

        Britt - I agree that the definition of moderation is IMO not often what I think of as moderation. I finally "got it" that a true example of moderation is my husband - who drinks a beer every once in awhile - usually in a social setting and rarely more than one - and can leave it (and prefers to leave it) at any time. I have never drank that way not even as a teenager when experimenting.

        AA - I do recall having to "learn to like beer." Sadly, I was a quick study. I suppose it's good I lost my taste for it by the time I graduated college. Too bad I just moved on to Vodka and Vino. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the holiday party without the booze! That gives me hope that maybe one day attending these events will be no biggie. This time - my first sober holiday season - I think a lot about it ahead of time, and don't truly relax and enjoy myself 100% while there. (always in the back of my mind is my not drinking plan, and exit strategy)

        Cinders, one of the Great Lies I told myself was that I *never* took risks drinking and driving. What a bold faced lie that is. I too got behind the wheel plenty of times when I should not have been driving. In fact I've come to believe that even one drink is too many to be driving. And I took plenty more risk with it than just one. I couldn't live with myself if I had killed someone with my car especially if booze of any quantity was involved. Yikes!

        Well, have a great day all!

        DG
        Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
        Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


        One day at a time.

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          #19
          AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

          Good morning/evening everyone. Brit, like you, i don't avoid al out there. Being a musician, my workplace is overflowing with the stuff! But i've adapted, and have my own little mental strategies to survive. I never allow myself (at this early stage af, 6 weeks) to be stranded, or waiting around in an al environment,and always have an exit plan ready in my head if i need it. I turn up to bars to see bands, and friends, with no stress, as i know, and close friends know, that if i start to feel a little anxious, i bid my farewells and leave with a smile. I am taking this sort of attitude into Christmas. Take care all. G.

          'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

          Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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            #20
            AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

            Guitarista,Kap and Doggygirl thankyou for your support and wise words.
            Did not feel well today, no surprises there, but determined to beat this.

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              #21
              AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

              Cassy, sorry that you are down right now, but remember that every day brings the opportunity to start over again.

              Remember, we only lose this battle when we give up!
              Sobriety Date: June 15, 2007 -- "It's not having what you want, It's wanting what you've got...."

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                #22
                AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                determination is what WILL see us through. The only failure is stoping to fight! God look in the mirror and say...I AM WORTH THIS FIGHT...believe those words.....because you are!
                Forever loved, forever missed Papa Bear

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                  #23
                  AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                  Everyone:

                  I just got up & to the computer. This is already a wonderful discussion. For now, no open bottles of any wine or vodka are in my home. I would surely drink it. We do have some beers & an unopen bottle of expensive scotch that someone gave us, but we'll probably give it to someone as a gift at some point. Beer is no temptation, & there is some in the garage. However, I hope that someday, I get to the point where I can have it here for unexpected guests or for my husb (a very mod drinker) who might want a glass before dinner.

                  Modding: I don't know how many times I tried. I can't count the "rules" I had in order to mod. It always ended up the same...binging. The effort to mod seems to feed the obssession I have w/AL. I've watched normal people drink. Their attitude about AL is completely different than mine. They leave wine in their glasses if they've had enough. They don't refill the instant their glass is empty. They don't drink alone.

                  Thank you all for being here. If you are someone who used to share here & are just reading, don't be afraid to jump in & share. We'd love to hear from you again. Don't worry about whether you've had a slip or not. You're welcome here...especially if you think you could be committed.

                  Love, Mary
                  Wisdom, Courage, Strength
                  October 3, 2012

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                    #24
                    AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                    Good morning all,

                    I've missed a day or two; it's great to see so much energy on this thread!

                    Today I need some help. I've been breezing along doing OK for about a month now gratefully AF. I consider myself totally unable to moderate and any relapse now will be opening the door to slow suicide. Yesterday I was feeling well enough too consider upgrading myself from Tom 3.0 ( withdrawl / recovery) to Tom 3.1 (functionally sober). I just started Milk Thistle yesterday to promote liver repair as part of my nutritional approach to better health. But this morning, I awake feeling like crap with (more) ringing in my ears. Now I feel like it would just be easier to go find a 12-pack and call it a day!

                    No, not really, I just want / need / deserve to feel better. Maybe I should just chill and veg-out with TV, but I realy feel like I need to move forward with exercise, hobbies, home repair, work....

                    Thanks for any and all advice.

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                      #25
                      AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                      Tom,

                      The only advice I can give you is that feeling rotten sometimes is a part of life whether we are sober or drunk.

                      I have found that drinking ALWAYS makes it worse.

                      Hang in there. You are doing very well.

                      Love,
                      Cindi
                      AF April 9, 2016

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                        #26
                        AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                        Tom get out the bed...get moving...I find vegging...well it promotes firther though of AL. I sit, I think...thus I drink....thus I start over...all not the goal. So, get moving buddy. You may be catching a bug, but sometimes just moving about will get the aches out.
                        Forever loved, forever missed Papa Bear

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                          #27
                          AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                          Tom: Maybe some fresh air would help. Try to remember all the bad things drinking brought into your life. Don't romanticize drinking or let yourself think it will help. We both know it won't. Mary
                          Wisdom, Courage, Strength
                          October 3, 2012

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                            #28
                            AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                            Sorry everyone, I'm an idiot.

                            Cindi, as soon as I read yor advice, I realized the error of my thoughts. Just because I don't feel as well as I did yesterday, its not that big a deal! I am not entitled to feeing great every morning. As you all have already said, "GET OVER IT!"

                            Come to think of it, I don't feel as bad as my last hangover!!! Maybe it is the Milk Thistle or maybe it's the Spicey Bean Burrito from Taco Bell yesterday???

                            Now that I'm over my little pity-party, I'll move on, run some errands and try to exercise later. Live and learn.

                            Thanks.

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                              #29
                              AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                              Top of the weekend ABland!

                              just a quickie for me. getting off to the shooting range bright and early before the winds pick up.
                              so glad to see this thread thriving with so many engaging folks on board,

                              be well
                              nosce te ipsum
                              (Know Thyself)

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                                #30
                                AF Daily, Saturday, Dec. 6

                                just a fly by here... Been reading along constantly but think I have the flu...about the 3rd day and not feeling any better except that today marks 2 weeks, actually tomorrow. Determinator mentioned being at a place where he no longer needs to cou of progress, and I appreciate being there. I've lived a double life it seems, when I got 'sober' b4 it was kind of easy to forget this part of it and move on... I did it in AA at the time but ironically never threw away my chips so they would resurface from time to time to remind me of what it took..those chips represent a bridge as does my counting and daily accountability..it keeps me present to today which is the only thing that is real or matters and the accumulation of days gives me hope and represents, for me, a healthier and purer foundation in which my future will be created from, so today I need to not take my days of abstinence for granted, they are a huge blessing, evidence of grace and little miracles and it fills that void in me that I usually want to fill with alcohol with faith, hope and love and that feels yummy.
                                It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

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