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    AF Daily Saturday 16 May

    Good morning all,

    Loads to think about on yesterday's thread. Really got me thinking about relapses. This time is a little different because my head is a little different. When I lapsed at the ball it was because someone I like but see little of was at the bar... I can't buy you a water.... not you.... of all people.... It was someone who had never thought of me as a drunk, just a party animal. A man friend (who doesn't fancy me) and I think there was a bit of me who liked that viewpoint. Now that I am sober I realise that I still like to have a laugh, muck about, bit of dancing ..... but now I do it when I am having a good time. Before I would drink to make a dire evening better, now I go home if I am not enjoying myself.

    I was invited to a Eurovision party but I delined because the friend who is hosting it was secretly pleased when I fell off the wagon. She was beside me at the ball and a few weeks later when I was back to really canning it, her comment was... hey we've got Loppy back! She is a good person really but I can't and shouldn't expect any support from her.

    Anyway how to describe Eurovision. To start with you have to appreciate that it is only fun because it is so bad it is good. It is a song contest where all the countries in Europe enter a song and then there is a vote and a winner. Abba came to fame when they won it with Waterloo. so it has been going for donkey's year's. Europe is very loosely defined, as Azerbajan is tipped to be the winner this year! In recent year's the voting has been very political and no one takes it seriously as a song contest anymore. Last year Ireland's entry was a glove puppet.

    People give parties, dress up and boo, hiss and cheer at the tv screen for an evening. For the last 30 year's the TV commentary was by Terry Wogan who used to have a drink or two over the course to the evening and his comments would get more and more unexpected. I think he is still persona non grata in that Scandinavian country (can't remember which one) where he kept refering to the compare as Dr Death. He resigned last year because the voting had become such a joke. Russia won because all the ex-soviet states voted for them. So tonight we have Graham Norton and his similarly acidic wit. Here is a link Eurovision Song Contest - Moscow 2009 but I suspect to really get it you have to have grown up with it.

    So I am spending this evening on my own with my grapefruit and soda and snacks and rolled up bit of newspaper to throw t the tv screen. (easier to clean up than peanuts as I've found in previous years).

    Hope everyone has a good sober weekend. Cindi fingers crossed that the baby comes of its own accord before you have to leave on Monday.

    Take care
    Learn from yesterday, live for today and hope for tomorrow - Einstein
    AF 8 June 2012

    #2
    AF Daily Saturday 16 May

    Loppy,

    It is true that we have to figure out who our friends are that we can be with. I have the same issues with work friends who are used to this party animal. I just don't go out with them anymore. It hurts a little but not as much as what would happen if I started up again.

    Thanks for you kind wishes for my girl.

    Granny is excited!!

    Love,
    Cindi
    AF April 9, 2016

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      #3
      AF Daily Saturday 16 May

      Gia,

      Of course you can join our thread. We are a very fun group but all of us trying hard for AF. Lots of support here!!

      :welcome:

      Love,
      Cindi
      AF April 9, 2016

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        #4
        AF Daily Saturday 16 May

        Morning,

        Now I understand Eurovision. I can see why it's popular. Abba - wow.

        We're to get T-storms today. I hope to plant my tomato plants late this afternoon. It's to be sunny next week and I've hesitate planting because it's been so wet.

        I'm headed to the Farmers Market. Meeting a new friend who has a dog and we're going for a hike with them after. They should have a blast.

        Speaking of the dog, his agility trainer quit where we train. Ugh. Three weeks until regionals and she leaves when we still have 2-3 classes left. I knew she'd leave but why in the middle of classes? I'm disappointed. After regionals I will reassess my committment to agility. I enjoy it, but it's a bit costly traveling to the trials. We've done 5 trials this year. If he was like a Border Collie who tend to live for agility it would be different, but my guy would rather go hiking and mountain biking. Our trainer is okay, not the best, but she's the only one in town that offers classes year round. She was at the only place that had an indoor and outdoor training area so I may have a short but sweet agility career of 2 years.

        Cindi - best wishes for the new family member, how exciting.

        HG - how did last night go?

        Dill - hang in there, I'm learning through cycles to chip away at each emotion as I learn to identify them.

        Gia - I'm still green on this thread and my advice is to really examine why you drink on the weekends, what is it replacing? It's taken me ~7 months to chip away at these things. For me, weekend drinking was about being lonely or bored. I need to work hard on resentment.

        Have a great day folks!

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          #5
          AF Daily Saturday 16 May

          Hi everyone

          Sorry to hear about your trainer Speedster. I know what you mean about the expense and commitment. My daughter has started to take her pony to shows. Hope all goes well for you.

          Welcome Gia, good advice on the week-end drinking. Sometimes it can just be a habit, Friday night, unwind etc. if it is replace with something else enjoyable.

          Sorry have to go my chauffering duties await. Wont be able to get on tomorrow as daughter has a show and we will be gone all day.

          Enjoy the rest of the week-end everyone.

          Rustop

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            #6
            AF Daily Saturday 16 May

            Hi all,

            I haven't been able to get on for a few days, but the most burning question I have from a quick read of yesterday's thread: HG, did you take that knitting project to the pub? Did it do the trick?

            Cindi, will you have gizmo at the hospital to keep us posted?

            Gia, welcome!

            Speedster, enjoy the Farmer's Market - I love those places.

            Great explanation, Loppy. Not sure why we follow the whole Eurovision thing, it must be an addiction...

            I'm off to look for a skirt. That's a headache as I rarely wear skirts. I need to attend a memorial service next week, and I'm not even sure whether I should be looking for black or grey... Ugghh

            I'll pop back later to catch up on the boards. Happy Saturday, all.

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              #7
              AF Daily Saturday 16 May

              Good Morning AFreedom Riders!

              I made it! I actually had more fun than had I been drinking. It was opening of new 'hall' room at local Brewery - lots of people came out - GREAT music (smoke free place). As I explained yesterday, the few times I have gone there, no prob because i don't really like beer. NOW, they have wine - crap. But I wasn't even tempted - knew going in, it was water and diet coke. Once I got up from my table and walked around, I had a great time talking to people, as I wasn't always searching for my wine, or trying to get it refilled!

              Pamina, I DID take the knitting to the Pub!! - HA!, but only to show a friend some little baby feet shoes I am making for her grandbaby.

              Ok, I will have to check in later - off to Lacrosse and running late. You guys are amazing. To remember my situation and ask....I have not felt that kind of thing in awhile. Thanks.

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                #8
                AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                Happy saturday ABeroooos!

                Loppy thanks for the fun and entertaining start. I must look into this Eurovision now.....

                Gia, pleasure finding you here dear. Great peeps round here.

                in a bit of a hurry, be back after shooting. want to get an early start as it's going to be 90+ degrees today.

                be well everyone
                nosce te ipsum
                (Know Thyself)

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                  #9
                  AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                  Hello friends!

                  Quick check in for me, just wanted to say welcome to Gia :welcome: and way to go Hidden!:goodjob:

                  And to everyone else I look forward to hearing about your hobbies, activities and events. Very interesting!

                  Best wishes-Granny! :l
                  _______________
                  NF since June 1, 2008
                  AF since September 28, 2008
                  DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
                  _____________
                  :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
                  5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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                  The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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                    #10
                    AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                    Loppy, thanks for explanation of Eurovision. I enjoy shows like that. I am a fan of American Idol here in the States. As far as changing friendships because of al, I guess, I don?t have any situations like that. I have a friend or two that I used to drink with, but there is never any pressure to do so now. I can see them over lunch or dinner and a drink used to be front and center, and then another, of course. But now we get together for lunch or dinner and the drink is secondary. Perhaps we are all pulling back. We have talked a bit about it. We have different goals, but we are supportive of each other. We are all maturing and are interested in preserving our health. These past few years my drinking has really been mostly alone and at home where I wouldn?t have to worry about driving, etc. Most people in my life don?t even know that I have a problem with al.

                    Cindi, you are going to love being a Granny! It?s wonderful.

                    Gia, you will love being part of this thread.:welcome:

                    Speedster , thanks for your encouraging words. I feel like such a ?loser? sometimes because I have had so many failures so far. As far as dogs go, my two mutts are no longer agile. I worry about losing them, as they are getting old and frail. What will you do now that the trainer quit? I don?t imagine it?s easy to find a good trainer in a short amount of time.

                    Rusty, What kind of pony? I think that sounds like fun. We had a couple horses years back, just for riding around here. One was a Tennessee Walker and one was an Arabian. I loved looking at them in the fields and grooming them. But I found that I didn?t enjoy riding, and when the kids left home we sold them. I miss those days.

                    Pamina, I really appreciated your Thankful Thread. It gave me a really good perspective. I will be revisiting it, to be sure.

                    Hidden, I too have used knitting as a diversion in my evenings. I?ve never taken it to a pub, but then, I?ve never been to a pub!:H

                    Deter, Yiikes! 90 degrees?! Hope you?re shooting went well. I?ll have some practice tomorrow, I think. It?s kind of rainy here today.

                    Hi, LVT!
                    Dill

                    Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                    If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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                      #11
                      AF Daily Saturday 16 May

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                      Well, the new house got robbed. The man we had sleeping there at night was held at gunpoint. He is ok but, he went to the ER just in case. He was having some chest pains and I think they smaked him around a little. Poor man. They stole 3 A/C units, my ovens, my steamer, warming drawer, a vanity for the power room, and 2 egret statues. It really could have been way worse. There was plenty they did not take, the guy is not hurt badly and they could have smashed up what they could not take. So, I actually feel fortuate.

                      Thank heavens I am sober!!!! I can deal with this and move on. No drama.
                      Sometimes I wonder...."Why is that frisbee getting bigger?"...and then it hits me.

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                        #12
                        AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                        Happy Saturday All,

                        I read through yesterday's thread and so appreciated the conversation around moderation and being tempted to drink. DG's quote sums it all up: "It doesn't matter how far away from your last drink you are. It matters how close you are to your next one."

                        Another way that I look at it is exploring the "depth" of our sobriety, not just the "length." Logging in the AF time works for awhile but we also need to look at why we drank and find new and meaningful ways to be a new "AF" person. And, there are many "tools" to do this--AA, physical exercise, new hobbies, new friends (or becoming reaquainted with old), church, etc. The more tools the better as far as I'm concerned!

                        Regarding "making an exit plan" prior to going to an event where alcohol is served. In the initial AF days, sometimes that plan is to not go at all. It doesn't mean it has to be that way forever, but I found avoidance at such events to be the best strategy in the beginning. Now, I don't really mind being around people who are drinking alcohol, but I do find that I'm much more discriminating about the company that I keep. That didn't matter so much when I was drinking because my best friend really was Al. Sad but true.
                        AF Since April 20, 2008
                        4 Years!!!
                        :lilheart:

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                          #13
                          AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                          Precious,

                          Cross posted...Sorry to hear about robbery. I hope the man who was staying will be ok.
                          AF Since April 20, 2008
                          4 Years!!!
                          :lilheart:

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                            #14
                            AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                            M3 - great to hear from you and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

                            Precious - sorry for the stress with the break-in. That's awful. You're right it could have been worse. Glad you made it through AF.

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                              #15
                              AF Daily Saturday 16 May

                              Hope I can come back. Was doing great until a week or so ago. Then, BAM, that monster caught up with me and I sucumbed (sp?).

                              I don't know how my husband puts up with me. He is too kind and understanding. And I am too overwhelmed and depressed most of the time.

                              I've tried antidepressants, but always feel weird and out of it. If they don't work and A gets the better of me, what can I do??? Does anyone know of "uppers" that aren't addictive and that work???

                              Sante

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