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    AF Daily Sunday 24 May

    Good morning all,

    Beautiful Sunday morning so I am in a great mood. Is anyone else's mood quite so affected by the weather? Thankfully bad weather doesn't bring me down (very lucky living in the UK) but a lovely morning just lightens my heart.

    Last night went well. There were jugs of water everywhere so I made sure I never had an empty glass. I see what everyone was saying about dropping friends and know what you mean. Last year there were a number of people I had to avoid because of the drinking. This time although it has only been a month I am further along in my thinking. I don't want to drop nice people just because they drink. The funny thing is many of my friends drink a lot less now because I don't drink. On Thursday and Friday night I went to dinner with different girlfriend's. Thursday night had been with one of my big drinking buddies and Friday night was a friend who admits she wishes I was still drinking but..... over dinner each of them only had one glass of wine. They didn't feel the need to have more if they weren't keeping up with me.

    Another strange thing that I want to run past everyone. Does anyone ever feel that they are watching themselves from the outside. Last night at the dinne rpart of the evening I was sitting next to someone I had never met before and he was boring, patronising and generally pretty full of himself. It struck me that in my drinking days I would have gone on a charm offensive to try and make the evening better for everyone. Last night I decided that it wasn't my job, I didn't want to. So I was just very polite and civil and conversed more with the people in front of me and to the other side. It was really odd it was like watching someone else. In the old days I would have been trying to make him like me and be nice. Now I didn't give a stuff, he clearly had issues and they weren't my problem to fix.

    Have ordered a copy of Emotional Alchemy from Amazon. Now that I am feeling all the emotions I had been drowning for year's, anything that helps me understand them can't be a bad idea. I love the book Achieving Emotional Literacy by Claude Steiner which is more about communicating your emotions. I have found it really useful for the little things, things that weren't important but mounted up until I became resentful. Now instead of saying something like "It's OK whatever you want" I say something like "wouldn't be my first choice, but if you want to, let's do what you want this time". Puts people on notice that ther will be a 'my' time.

    Claude Steiner also wrote a wonderful book called Healing Alcoholism. It contained the wonderful line ... Only those who want to stop being an alcoholic will stop being an alcoholic. 4theboyz used to use it as his strap line. Haven't seen him on the boards for ages. Hope it is because everything is going so well for him.

    Well sorry for such a long naval gazing post, have so many ideas running through my head this morning. Shops open in about 10 mins so ned to get up and started on a day full of chores.

    Thanks for listening.
    Learn from yesterday, live for today and hope for tomorrow - Einstein
    AF 8 June 2012

    #2
    AF Daily Sunday 24 May

    Hi everyone

    Thanks for getting us started Loppy. Glad last night went so well for you. I have a copy of Emotional Alchemy but have not had a chance to read it yet, must dig it out.

    CONGRATULATIONS DG on one year AF. You have come such a long way and we are all so proud of you. There are many of us who aspire to following in your footsteps.

    Had to go to the Doctor Friday and am on antibiotics. Tried to fight this on my feet and it didnt work!! Have to learn to put myself first, yesterday said no a few times, just did not feel up to it. Let them cook their own dinner and went to bed early. I'm inclined to try and keep doing everything even when feeling ugh, they take it for granted and then I feel restentful. It's my own fault, I feel guilty if I dont but I am learning not to.

    Love the idea of the Barking lot Greenie, my goldie would love it. Unfortunately the JR would be evicted for anti-social behaviour!!

    Interesting post Speedster, have to go back and have a good read later. Everyone else big hello and enjoy the rest of the week-end. Beautiful morning here so going to enjoy the garden.

    Rustop

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      #3
      AF Daily Sunday 24 May

      Good morning Ab Landers. Loppy, GREAT post to start off the day. I need to put both of the books you mentioned on my read list too. Interesting stuff. Glad you had a good time at the party. Those are VERY interesting observations. Especially the part about it not being your job to make sure everyone is entertained (or insert other thing here). I think part of our problem as drinkers is a need or desire to control everything around us and keep it all in good "working order" according to OUR vision of what that should be. That is not only impossible but exhausting. Sounds like that is similar to your observation last night. I hope you will keep sharing your thoughts - I get a lot out of reading them!

      Rustop I'm glad you finally went to the doc! Yes...sounds like time to take care of "you."

      I'm off to AA then to the gym. I can't believe I look forward to going to the gym. What a change. It looks like it's going to be another gorgeous day here. YEAH!

      Have a great day everyone!

      DG
      Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
      Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


      One day at a time.

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        #4
        AF Daily Sunday 24 May

        Morning abbers!

        Had a good time last night. Sushi with friends and they didn't order anything to drink. That was sort of interesting as they usually do, but we seemed in a hurry. Then we went to their son's dance performance. The company is awesome. Number after number of high energy athletic dance. (think flashdance). Stopped off to see my dad on the way home and was home by 10. Up at 6 but too cloudy for a sunrise.

        Emotional Alchemy is sounding more and more like a gotta read.
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        Thoughts become things..... choose the good ones. ~TUT

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          #5
          AF Daily Sunday 24 May

          What a beautiful Sunday, abbers!

          Sounds like people are having a good weekend so far. It's warm, sunny and summery here today, finally. Bright weather does indeed make such a difference.

          Interesting observations about our impulses to take responsibility for how other people are feeling. I've noticed a shift in that regard as well. On Friday afternoon we had a memorial event at work for a young guy associated with our programme who was killed a few years ago. His murder was horrific and written up in the British press at the time. We hosted a lunch for his parents shortly afterwards and this was a follow-up with both my old boss (emotionally literate) and current boss (autistic) in attendance. The latter seemed very defensive, uncomfortable, failed to take charge of the gathering and later pranced up and down while others were doing the memorial readings. His behaviour was completely inappropriate and disrespectful. I observed myself thinking that I could go over, chat and try to put him more at ease; and that I felt like apologising to the parents for his behaviour. However, they were but fleeting thoughts. It wasn't my job. I noticed others also taking note of his weird ways, but we all focussed on what we were there for. His actions were his responsibility.

          There was another incident over lunch that gave me pause. My ex-boss likes his lunches long and wet as they used to be in the good old days and was pouring the wine around liberally to all who'd oblige. A co-worker did, and his stories became more colourful by the minute until he stumbled on one that must have triggered some memory and he broke down sobbing. Most people had left but the bereaved family were still there and looked at me in bewilderment. Trust me, you don't normally see grown men crying in this country! What impressed me about me was that I didn't feel overwhelmed or freeze. I didn't rush over to comfort him (ex-boss was already doing that), I didn't tear up in sympathy or slink under the table in embarrassment. I just turned to the family quite calmly and carried on a conversation until the guy had recovered. I'm sure I would not have been able to do that a year ago and that I would have wanted to talk to him afterwards to 'help him' make it 'all better'. There seems to be a bit of breathing space now between my emotions and those of the rest of the world, which is such a relief! I don't have to 'fix' or 'control' others (at least not all the time, anyway...)

          What it did bring back for me was an incident from March 2008 when I'd had too many drinks in a big crowd, heard an upsetting story, felt (inappropriately) that our group at work should have been able to do something about it and broke down in tears. Then I was massively embarrassed afterwards. It was one of the turning points in making me realise that my drinking was out of control.

          On Friday I looked at those wine bottles and felt a kind of sadness for the people guzzling it down. I'm SO GLAD I'm not there any more!!

          Sorry about the long post. Happy Sunday everyone!

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            #6
            AF Daily Sunday 24 May

            Pamina & Loppy - very interesting observations. It's amazing how our perspective changes and so do our observation and reactions to others.

            Rust - yes, put yourself 1st and heal up. The family will work it out and resentment won't help you get better. I'm working on the go-go-go do-do-do.

            I took some time to read before I leave to pick up and deliver lunch to a volunteer group.

            DG -- there's a regionally recognized dog trainer in town this weekend for an obedience trial and she's taking private appts. I'm to see her tonight and talk about my pup's worrying in the ring. Talked with her for 15 mins on the phone and felt enthusiasm for continuing agility after our trainer quit.

            Mame - I'm reading a book called "Dewey" about a cat who is tossed into a book return at a library and ends up becoming the library cat for 19 yrs. Thought of you. It's a good read so far. True story too!

            Have a peacful Sunday.

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              #7
              AF Daily Sunday 24 May

              Hi Everyone: I can't stay long right now but will be back later hopefully. I like the idea of that book you mentioned Loppy. I'm going on a trip next week but will share here until I go. I'll bring my recovery materials w/me. Mary
              Wisdom, Courage, Strength
              October 3, 2012

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                #8
                AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                Hi everyone,

                :toohot: Gorgeous weather here.

                I borrowed Emotional Alchemy from the library and haven't started it yet and it's due back on Tuesday. Oops. I've been stuck into some diaries written by a lesbian landowner in the 19th century instead - (posted a bit about them in "What we're reading" if anyone's interested).

                Pamina, your workplace sounds like a hoot. I'm in an industry which used to be awash with long liquid lunches on expense accounts (and many embarrassing emotional outbursts as a result) but it became all serious and sober quite a few years ago and now it's noses to the grindstone and a sandwich eaten at your desk. (So you now know I'm not an MP :H).

                Have a great week everyone. I probably won't be around coz I'm working like a D.O.G (nose very firmly on grindstone) but very happily sober!
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                AF since December 22nd 2008
                Real change is difficult, and slow, and messy - Oliver Burkeman

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                  #9
                  AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                  Happy sunday ABerooooooooos!

                  Loppy thats a stellar post you started us on. You are experiencing some wonderful growth in your emotional intelligence.

                  Pamina great to see you back and full of insight to boot.

                  long wet lunches were something my former boozing boss would drag me along to about 3 times per week. argh! that is what really got me into the "daytime drinking downward spiral of doom".

                  well, last night at the club (mind you I'm NOT a club hopping kind of guy) went really well. we found a more out of the way spot to see the UFC (martial arts fighting) Pay Per Vew event and all had a great time. it was great to see my gym buddies outside of the gym and get to know them better. Only one of them is a serious boozer but he's a pleasant drunk and had a designated driver (I mad sure before leaving he could get home or I would have driven him). Also I think my no drinking is inspiring him although I'm not going to get into the emotional trap of trying to champion his recovery.


                  today we're off to see the new 'Terminator'. I'm a little disturbed they mis spelled my name but close enough

                  oh this is too cute. as I'm typing right now the neighbors white cat is in our yard jumping around chasing big golden butterflies in the sun. Isn't life grand?

                  be well,
                  nosce te ipsum
                  (Know Thyself)

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                    #10
                    AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                    today we're off to see the new 'Terminator'. I'm a little disturbed they mis spelled my name but close enough
                    :H:H:H (worth 3 of my total 6 smilie ration!!!) Glad you had fun at the outing with your pals. If you one bigger drinker friend is maybe starting to see the light he is doing way better than I ever did. I was often the only one (inappropriately) drinking like a fish in situations. All that ever did to me was just make me feel even more rebellious and get even drunker. (my IQ must be about 5 or 6)

                    Hi Marshy!!! I always forget to look in on the "what we're reading" thread. Or maybe it's good that I forget - my reading wish list is already as long as my arm! Sounds like work is keeping you busy...I think that's a good thing? If so, cool. If not, DANG.

                    Mary, where are you off to? I hope you have fun.

                    Speedster, I hope your appointment with the trainer goes well. I can't wait to hear about it so I hope you will share the details. Your post made me think of Mr. Doggy's trainer again as I went to watch the action for awhile yesterday. It is really really really common even for good (for the sport) dogs to worry. I swear our trainer would probably say "there is something you are doing that is causing his worry and that's what we need to fix." (I mainly know that because in his eyes "we" cause all the problems with the dogs LOLOL!! but he is usually right!) Mr. Doggy had horrible problems when he was preparing for his BH because he really just tensed up 1) knowing the trial was coming up and 2) in front of people. Mr. D kept saying "Fergie is nervous" and the trainer kept saying "no, Mr. D is nervous.." Mr. D really was the problem and he finally got a solution figured out. Whatever is going on for you is probably not nearly as simple but you never know! The best part is hearing that you are feeling enthusiastic again!

                    Pamina I really loved your post. Please don't apologize for long posts. A) they are not long - certainly not by my standards LOL!. B) they are very insightful - it sounds like everyone learns something from them. I know I appreciate the food for thought you always bring to this buffet!

                    Greenie that dance sounds like it was awesome. How is your Dad doing these days?

                    I really enjoyed my workout today. I cannot cannot cannot believe I'm turning into somebody who likes the gym. It's not so much the repetitive exercises that turn me on, it's how the exercising makes me feel. I'm hooked! The "graduation" from Curves to the bigger place was a good move at the right time I think. I will always be thankful to Curves though for getting me going. I never would have had the confidence to handle the Big Gym a year ago.

                    Then I came home and made a salad from my own home grown lettuce and spinach! And my own radishes in there too! Hard to believe.

                    Last I checked Danica Patrick was in the top 10 of the Indy 500 so I think I'll go watch the rest of the race. GO DANICA!!! GIRL POWER!!

                    Have a great rest of the day all!
                    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                    One day at a time.

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                      #11
                      AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                      I loved reading everyones posts today! The boys and I are camping and although I still do not have my garden planted it has been nice to relax a little today. Camping always used to mean lots of drinking and beloved ciggies by the fire. Now its peanut clusters and smores!
                      Looking forward the the memorial service at the cemetery tomorrow it looks so beautiful with all the flowers!
                      Please pause to remember those have their lives for our freedom!
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                      NF since June 1, 2008
                      AF since September 28, 2008
                      DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
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                      :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
                      5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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                      The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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                        #12
                        AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                        Hello everyone!

                        I haven't been posting much on here the last few weeks as I haven't been committed to staying sober for more than a few days at a time. God, I wish I could like myself enough to commit to a complete AF life. I think I may need to get back into some more counseling. Or trying a medication to help me with the drinking.

                        I am really disappointed with myself. I feel like complete H*ll today; and full of anxiety.

                        Anyway, I am recommitting to the daily thread here. I have to do this. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired. Being AF feels so good so I need to stop sabotaging it!

                        Have a great day everyone!

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                          #13
                          AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                          Wow amazing posts today!!! Thanks everyone. Wish I had a bit more time to digest them

                          Speedster - that book sounds great! I took one of my kittens on a visit to my mum last night. She is 85, has become a bit house-bound over the last couple of weeks as a result of bad weather and deteriorating health. I was so pleased that I did that - Betty Lou quickly fell asleep in her lap and Mum had a very contented hour patting her and talking to her.

                          monday morning here and I ned to get cracking - busy week ahead!
                          Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn

                          Harriet Beecher Stowe

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                            #14
                            AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                            AFM, glad you came and reached out like this. excellent!
                            why do you think you've been jumping off the AF train? can you pinpoint any particular trigger or emotion? maybe together we can figure this out.
                            nosce te ipsum
                            (Know Thyself)

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                              #15
                              AF Daily Sunday 24 May

                              Det, I think I am not doing much for myself these days. I am feeling a bit overwhelmed in the life of parenting; stressed about work as it is so very off and on these days, because it is slow....

                              I need to start doing other things in regards to de-stressing/de-compressing.

                              I need to really stop this madness. Seriously! I am so sick of being on this roller coaster and I want off now.

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