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    #31
    Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

    KTAB, where are you posting the inane wafflings? I haven't seen those posts. The posts of yours I see regularly are all fabulous and sound.

    Tough Chicks were awesome today. We started reading Step 3 in the book. (not big book - the text book that goes with the work book). Making a decision to turn my life and my will over to the care of a higher power means first recognizing that what I like to try to do - control everything and everyone around me - doesn't work. So the focus of our discussion today was mainly examples of that. A common thread was how we try to control people - i.e. children, spouses, employees, bosses and the harder we work at control, the worse results we get. Many children and spouses were driven away.

    The serenity prayer was discussed as a favored tool for when we are frustrated or resentful. Are we trying to change something out of our control? If so, acceptance is the answer.

    The funniest story today was by a former school teacher. She is retired now but taught for over 20 years and then moved into an administrative position. She said we she took the administrative position, she was for the first time in an office with many other adults rather than in a classroom with all children and her "in charge." She talked about how she wanted to tell everyone what to do, to shut up, and she had a desire to arrange the office furniture into rows. This was hillarious as she was describing it. She could only achieve peace in her new job when she accepted that it was not her place to try to change and control the other adults she was working with. I can relate to that.

    There is a discussion about fear in the Daily AF thread that is very good and certainly relevant for me. I am writing a few of my thoughts here since it was fear of relapse that drove me through the doors of AA.

    I absolutely know that AL is doing push ups in my parking lot, because that's just the nature of this addiction. But I don't fear relapse any more, nor am I as fearful about life in general any more. I think contributing factors include:

    * Living as honestly as I can trying to do the next right thing. I have less to fear this way.
    * Clearing the wreckage of my past through steps 4&5 and 8&9 was sucha relief. In step 5 I forgave myself for a lot of things. That takes a lot of fear away.
    * I treat fear as a defect that I ask HP for help removing on a daily basis. Sometimes that works like magic. Can't really explain it, but I've learned to "just do it."
    * Living in a fearless way comes also with responsibility. I'm not a helpless, fearful victim in this life. I ask for the courage to live without fear.
    * Staying in touch with my sobriety plan on a daily basis helps give me purpose and direction. Purpose and direction help ease my fears.
    * When I catch myself starting to worry about something (I have come to believe that worry is a waste of time and useless activity that changes NOTHING) I stop it. I change the channel in my mind. I ask HP for help if I feel unable to get it done myself.

    That's what came to mind today as I was thinking about fear and how I used to deal with it (I didn't) and how I try to deal with it today. I have a long way to go but it's so comforting to have tools to work with now, and also have mentors in AA who show me that they have conquered there fears, and therefore I can do it too.

    Hope everyone is having a fabulous day.

    DG
    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


    One day at a time.

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      #32
      Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

      Hi everyone,
      I've been having some difficult times. Don't know why I feel this depression, but I do know that alcohol during the past few weeks was not an option. My sponsor tells me to keep saying the serenity prayer, get on my knees and pray every morning and night, keep reading. I've been doing that. But I think as I get working on the steps with her, I'll have those tools that your were talking about DG. I know I need to forgive myself and let go of the resentments, and let the fears go. I will work diligently towards that.

      Last night I went to a speaker's meeting. The speaker looked a little familiar to me. It was bugging me that I should know who he was. Well, today I texted my mom and dad and asked if they knew this speaker. My dad texted me back telling me that it was his cousin's husband. Of course! I don't think I recognized him completely because I hadn't seen him in maybe 25 years or so. He's much older than I remember! They actually lived on the same street I grew up on. I remember long ago my parents saying how hard it was for Claudia and her marriage. Well, Chuck's been sober for 30 years which he attributes to AA. Claudia, my father's cousin has been an alanon member for that long as well.

      I've volunteered for the next three months to set up at our home meeting. When I volunteered, I thought it was for a month. Then someone told me it was for three months. Oh well! Doin' my duty.

      Gyco, thanks for your encouragement!

      Phil, that's dedication and commitment on the road. I'm sure you have so many great experiences as you meet people from all of the US.

      Catch, good luck with your step 4. You sound great and that you are getting the full benefits of AA. That's wonderful!

      DG, being a school teacher myself, I loved the story you told about the former teacher turned administrator! We've got contro issues, that's for sure.

      KTAB, good luck in your AA research. I've only been going for about three weeks now, and I really can appreciate each and every time I go.

      Have a great weekend!
      Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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        #33
        Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

        Hi everyone,

        Just got back from a little trip with my hubby, had to go down and do repairs on a rental and then over to the beach for some R and R, this was my first time at the beach without my wine.. had some drink triggers, but dug in and dealt with it.Thank God I have some tools now.
        I have doing some writing on step 4 and whoever said they needed their big girl pants on..oh boy for sure.
        and I don't think I have dug into my past.. into my childhood far enough I guess.
        Glad to be home and will be going to my wonderful woman's meeting tomorrow morning.
        May our choices today not result in regret, but rather be wise

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          #34
          Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

          Hello all. Been a while since I posted but just been megga busy. Hope everyone is okay? I have to start slwing my life down. I just dont seem to have any quiet time these days.
          chin up j-vo. I have been feeling a bit down the past few days but going back to my old life is not the answer...
          Hi Dg, Cher, KTAB, MG,Mary and gyco. Some new people on this thread! How nice!
          Be strong-
          We define ourselves by the best that is in us, not the worse that has been done to us.
          Be constructive. Clear the word of CAN'T

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            #35
            Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

            Hello friends.

            Father in law just arrived in town to stay with us for 10-12 days(!) to help with our kitchen remodel. Tonight of course he has a big bottle of wine in our refridgerator. He drinks a couple glasses before bed. I am ok with it, I stopped liking red wine awhile ago from getting sick after drinking it. But.. I'm just a bit worried bc I really don't want to share that I'm in AA with him, and yet, I have to leave and stop helping with the project in order to get to meetings. So, I will have to come up with a story that I'm hanging out with friends or something.

            Meeting with my sponsor tommorow at 1 to finish up steps 6 and 7 and start on 8.

            Rebirth I like your picture!

            J-Vo, I think the depression you mentioned is completely normal. I have been there and I went on a low dose of a drug called Celexa and it REALLY helped me get thru. I have had a lot better experience with getting sober this time and that is the one different factor, and I think feeling better helped me to face working the steps. It doesn't have any "effects" you can feel, more that you just don't feel like you're in a black hole you can't mentally snap out of no matter how much you want to. Just something to consider. I will admit I don't discuss that with people in AA often because you can catch some flack for it, but I think some people are under the impression, as I may have been before I actually went on one that antidepressants are mood altering or give some sort of a buzz. But they really don't, it's just the absence of the black cloud.

            Everyone have a happy weekend!
            I ain't afraid of no ghost....

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              #36
              Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

              Good morning peeps,

              Hi MG. You mentioned about your father in law with you. I have the same situation with my babysitter. I have used her services for two years and shen has not once asked me where I go for the couple of hours. i like that about her!

              Have a great saturday all.I have to work and I dont feel like it!
              Be strong-
              We define ourselves by the best that is in us, not the worse that has been done to us.
              Be constructive. Clear the word of CAN'T

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                #37
                Weekly AA Thread 9/7-9/13

                Hi all! Good to read what everyone is up to for better or for "just life." Getting used to life's normal ups and downs without trying to adjust my feelings with AL took some time. And still takes some time. j-vo, keep putting one foot in front of the other and doing the next right thing. I didn't "get" the effectiveness of the Serenity Prayer in everyday life until my sponsor told me "say it again." "Say it again." "Keep saying it again and again until it works." And by golly, it always seems to work eventually to get me to a certain peaceful place. Not always a happy place, but peaceful once I accept something I'm having trouble with or getting the courage to change something that I am resisting. I think you will enjoy your volunteer work.

                Cherbear, good for you surviving your first beach trip without AL. I didn't really delve into childhood issues during Step 4 once it was pointed out that it was my inventory of me, not my inventory of my parents. :H (I did not have any alcohol related problems going on in my life i.e. alcoholic parents or abuse or anything - just my own drinking starting around age 16 or 17) Your sponsor will help you through this. Be fearless!

                rebirth, hope your spirits are lifted today. I know what you mean about trying to find balance. When I was drinking, in the end years that's about all I did. So learning how to live and not over commit myself and balance my time is a huge thing for me. I have to remember to make time for ME some days.

                MG, hope everything is going OK with FIL there. I'm sure it is wonderful to have the help but for me, would be a bit stressful having company in the house all the time. Hope it's going well in terms of getting out to meetings. I agree with you that some in AA have issues with meds - all meds any meds. I don't really think this spirit is in keeping with what Dr. Bob and Bill W had in mind. They say clearly in the BB the importance of being friends with the medical community and open to future advances. I too find it's an issue that is quietly discussed by supportive AA members outside of meetings, for the most part. (which is fine as far as I'm concerned)

                We read Chapter 3 as part of our Step 1 discussion in my Sunday 12&12 meeting today. I love this Chapter and as always get something new out of it on each read. Today I focused my thinking on how alcohol was making my life unmanageable, although I was in total denial about it for a long time. I thought my husband / boss / whoever were causing my problems and if they would only stop / start / do what I wanted I wouldn't drink so much. Today I see that I drank because I am an alcoholic, and that's just what we do until we find recovery. I also really reflected today on my struggle to control my drinking, which was impossible.

                I still can't believe this stuff was written in the 1930's but describes my own life with AL to a T.

                Big Book Chapter 3 - More About Alcoholism

                Have a great day everyone!

                DG
                Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                One day at a time.

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