I am so glad your date went well, Chill, and I know that I too can?t sleep after such excitement and discovery, even if on the surface I am composed. On another matter, for all the ladies (and any gentlemen) who are joining me in relationship ?issues?, I had the occasion today for a unique perspective. Most people on our thread know that I am taking a water exercise class five early mornings a week, and it is at a local YMCA which I like very much as it serves a really diverse and interesting population in contrast with most of the gyms in this town. The class is fairly intense in its current incarnation but it has been around in one form or another for decades and there is a group of very old ladies who now mainly visit around the edges of the pool, flitting a wrist or two when others are engaged in four hundred cancan kicks in deep water. For some reason they singled me out as an object of interest and invited me weeks ahead to a special lunch (twice, the first time I declined) and to my surprise I went today. One of the twelve ladies (an elegant one with long upswept hair and turquoise) was late because when she had gone home after our class to get changed and fix her husband of sixty-plus years (these ladies are in their eighties, one is ninety) lunch, she found him in his ?usual demeanor? on the couch with a blanket over his head ?watching TV?, it seems he is blind and that is what he does. He didn?t stir when she spoke to him, nor after her coming in and out from her bath, nor after placing a tray and announcing lunch, and these ladies are so self-contained that I was quite sure she was going to say he was not asleep but dead. I thought she would then go on with lunch, planning the services. I was riveted, waiting. Instead she said she peeled back the blanket and ?looked into the barrel of a gun?. It was very hard to keep my face on in any form, I nearly sprayed the table with chowder. Now while obviously he didn?t shoot her and just was scared himself ?heard a noise and all?, this lady just found one more marital challenge that beats the heck out of mine and I think everybody else?s here. By the way, she is going to disable the gun but let him keep it and the bullets. I am currently translating this intelligent response to adversity into my own world. If I can't I am headed for our Dill's boat. Hope to see the rest of you there as needed, Rebirth, Rusty, Rustop, Cyn, Coochie, Sooty, Star, PA, G., Pap (you rock!), Lav, Shelley, SD, et. al. Oh forgive me if I missed anyone, I'll find you yet. Love, Ladybird.
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I am so glad your date went well, Chill, and I know that I too can?t sleep after such excitement and discovery, even if on the surface I am composed. On another matter, for all the ladies (and any gentlemen) who are joining me in relationship ?issues?, I had the occasion today for a unique perspective. Most people on our thread know that I am taking a water exercise class five early mornings a week, and it is at a local YMCA which I like very much as it serves a really diverse and interesting population in contrast with most of the gyms in this town. The class is fairly intense in its current incarnation but it has been around in one form or another for decades and there is a group of very old ladies who now mainly visit around the edges of the pool, flitting a wrist or two when others are engaged in four hundred cancan kicks in deep water. For some reason they singled me out as an object of interest and invited me weeks ahead to a special lunch (twice, the first time I declined) and to my surprise I went today. One of the twelve ladies (an elegant one with long upswept hair and turquoise) was late because when she had gone home after our class to get changed and fix her husband of sixty-plus years (these ladies are in their eighties, one is ninety) lunch, she found him in his ?usual demeanor? on the couch with a blanket over his head ?watching TV?, it seems he is blind and that is what he does. He didn?t stir when she spoke to him, nor after her coming in and out from her bath, nor after placing a tray and announcing lunch, and these ladies are so self-contained that I was quite sure she was going to say he was not asleep but dead. I thought she would then go on with lunch, planning the services. I was riveted, waiting. Instead she said she peeled back the blanket and ?looked into the barrel of a gun?. It was very hard to keep my face on in any form, I nearly sprayed the table with chowder. Now while obviously he didn?t shoot her and just was scared himself ?heard a noise and all?, this lady just found one more marital challenge that beats the heck out of mine and I think everybody else?s here. By the way, she is going to disable the gun but let him keep it and the bullets. I am currently translating this intelligent response to adversity into my own world. If I can't I am headed for our Dill's boat. Hope to see the rest of you there as needed, Rebirth, Rusty, Rustop, Cyn, Coochie, Sooty, Star, PA, G., Pap (you rock!), Lav, Shelley, SD, et. al. Oh forgive me if I missed anyone, I'll find you yet. Love, Ladybird.may we be well
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Good Evening Everyone,
Did I miss something? Star, G, and Lav....I am confused....for some reason, you all think I had a bad experience with some guy? Not at all. Hmm...where did you get that idea?
Choochie-congratulations on your 12 days AF:goodjob: You sound so positive and upbeat...I love stories like yours.
Chill-I am delighted that McDreamy is really McDreamy. You deserve someone wonderful. Let me know when it gets to the McSteamy part so I can write an article for the MWO Daily Mail.And I agree with Mr. G-you couldn't sleep because you were, as he said, "stimulated." It's been a long time since I had that I-can't-go-to-sleep feeling because I had such a fascinating date. I would welcome the idea, though.
Dill-thank you so much for the warm welcome home. When I woke up this morning, I didn't know where I was.
SD-I am a quality assurance trainer/consultant for the automotive industry. I own my own business which translates to working lots of hours. Despite the depressed state of the economy and the automotive industry, business has been really good. I travel all over the world so I relish my time at home. Where do you live? In South Dakota, Minnesota?
Ladybird-which one are you....Thelma or Louise:H? I loved the story about your limo ride whilst wearing only a t-shirt and your unmentionables. Did you open the moon roof and craw on the roof to see the stars? After the last couple of weeks you've had, you deserved to do something wild.
Papmom-I had never heard of Victoria Stillwell. I have learned something new on this thread.
Rustop-I loved your quote-"The secret of happiness is to count your blessings while others are adding up their troubles."
Paguy-Gosh, time flies....you'll be fully mobile soon. I bet you can't wait....you'll be out running in no time.
Shelley Shelley Shelley-how was the marathon? Can you still walk?
A happy hello to Rebirth, Sooty, Cyn, and everyone else who comes along....have a wonderful evening!
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Evening, Optimizers!
Missed posting last night as I was truly exhausted after the party. For the first time ever, I went to bed before cleaning absolutely everything and putting it away - I was so tired I actually felt unwell. But, it was a big success and my stepdaughter was happiness itself, which was the goal....so, whew! I got some pics of things (like my 2 17 inch pans of paella!); when I have more energy I'll learn how to post them here (the pics, not the paella). Had a bit of an internal wrestle about AL, but felt your energy, and stayed true - how glad I am. Despite that, I woke up with frightening grinding pains in my head and had to take migraine meds, which eventually worked. I was glad that I knew that it wasn't from AL.
Lav - as someone pointed out, Mr Lav is obviously obsessed with himself, to the exclusion of Life. I'm so sorry that he cannot or will not rise to your level. What sadness - sending you hugs.
LBH - story #1 - wow, what a piece of lucky starlight, meant just for you. story #2 - I will be laughing (actually guffawing) for days, mostly from your glorious telling of it. I have a few 90 year old friends, and they are the Best.
Rusty - I read the end of last week's posts: don't worry, you are in the midst of positive changes, and are making everything right, wiping away all fears and tears. And the story of 2 years ago took my breath away -- I don't know how I would have coped with that - you are amazing.
Star - I'm so sorry about the ink - it sounded like that episode was emblematic somehow -- hang in there, and be extra good to yourself...
Pap - I'm so jealous that you got to see Victoria. BTW, Pryor's "Don't Shoot the Dog" is one of my all-time favorite books on changing behavior; my dog's or my own!
Choochie - thanks for jumping on the bus with us! I love the idea of "miraculous consciousness" - more please, I haven't heard about the book you're reading.
Chill - so happy to hear about your evening. RE: telling us as if you were talking to your Mum - it's funny, I had the same feeling after the last of our guests left last night - I wanted to tell you all here on the thread about the evening - what a good time we had, and that the photos worked, and the decorations were fun, and I stayed AF, and, and....realized that in many ways you are my closest pals. There is no one else that I could tell it all to, where I would be sure to be understood.
Thank you all -to the light
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Good morning everyone
Wow, what an active thread. Enjoyed reading all your posts. Have not time to write much this morning as the girls are waiting to be chauffered to their various social activities!!
Some days the readings I receive do not hit a chord, other days they do. Liked the ones for today so I thought I would share:
Acceptance does not mean that I have to agree, I don't have to approve, I don't even
have to like it. I just have to accept.
--unknown
"I can forgive, but I can not forget" is only another way of saying, "I will not forgive."
Forgiveness ought to be like a cancel note - torn in two and burned up so that it never
can be shown against one.
--Henry Ward Beecher
To carry a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee.
--William H. Walton
Life is not always what one wants it to be, but to make the best of it as it is, is the only
way of being happy.
--Jennie Jerome Churchill
Until you make peace with who you are, you'll never be content with what you have.
--Doris Mortman
Have a great Sunday one and all.
Rustop
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"It was that experience that taught her the magic of staying calm and quiet and of non force in order to diffuse a difficult situation.' I love Victoria Stillwell's show, "It's me or the Dog." Behaviorism is fascinating and works!! Papmom, how fun to listen to her speak and buy her book. It was interesting to hear that she was an actress previously. I believe, more and more, that staying calm and not getting in an uproar, is the only way to go. I used to lose my cool quite often, I am doing that less and less. There is no point, and it solves nothing.
Chill, so happy for you, some fun and the start of a new relationship. I always find it hard to wind down after being out.
Cyn, your party was a success. I think part of the fun is rehashing everything. Tell us more about the evening.
Rusty, I don't know what you are referring to. Good to have you home. Hope you are able to catch up on things and have a little fun, too.
John, hope everything goes smoothly in getting your cast removed. Glad you enjoy your sports games. I know my husband loves his football. Notre Dame game yesterday, it was a beautiful day.
Lav, I know you are upset about your husband, and with good reason. He has been emotionally abusive to you for years. Yes, emotional abuse. The silent treatment, game playing, blaming, not showing up, cut downs. These are all forms of emotional abuse. I hear the hurt and pain in your posts, and wish there was something I could do to help. No one deserves to be treated like that. You are a good, deserving, hardworking, intelligent, interesting, vital woman. Putting up with bad treatment over a period of time can really bring you down, make you doubt yourself. Some say emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse. I don't know. They both are horrible. We are here for you.
Rustop, thanks for the lovely quotes. Lots to think about.
Dill, I am reading, "The Help," and loving it. You boat adventures sound fun.
LBH, loved hearing about your adventures.
Well, I did get the flu Friday night and was up all night, sicker than a dog. I have not been sick like that for years, and it took me all day yesterday to feel better. Having good health is something I take for granted. Being AF promotes good health and I am determined to keep on working on being healthier physically, emotionally and spiritually. I was unable to drink coffee and had a horrible headache and shoulder ache that would not go away. Guess what, with my first cup of coffee today, I am better. Now, that is scarey. I am hooked on coffee. Great. I just want to thank all of you for being here, sharing your stories, and being so faithful. We are a tight group. Choochie, so happy you want to be part of this thread.
I'll try to check in later.Formerly known as redhibiscus
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Good Sunday Morning Friends,
Rustopm thank you again for your quotes. They always provide me with a great thought for the day. This is one I am proud to say I subscribe to: Until you make peace with who you are, you'll never be content with what you have.
--Doris Mortman
Star-I was referring to a post from way back last week. No worries....It was probably something where I misspoke (having one of my many "senior moments.") I hope you are feeling better today....whenever I get a flu like that it just makes me appreciate my health even more, but it's hell going through it. Also, I feel so badly about the ink in your dryer...I hope it didn't ruin anything too dear to you. My mother and I watched the Notre Dame game as well yesterday....we are fans because my father played football there. My mother and I went to several games after my father died and we had a blast.
Lav-how are you doing today?
Rebirth-Come out, come out wherever you are!
Well, all, Dill had posted a wonderful quote about trust a few weeks ago. Do you remember me telling all of you about my client who asked me out and then cancelled because his best friend died in a motorcycle accident? Well, it turns out he was telling the truth. I did some follow-up checking after he said he and a bunch of others were holding a memorial motorcycle ride for his friend, and it turns out my client was interviewed for the local newspaper. So, it's good to know he was honest with me.
I will be in Ohio this week and have much to do to get ready. Will try and check in later.
To everyone I may have missed: LBH, Sooty, Paguy, Dill, Sped, Cyn, Papmom, Mr. G-Have a wonderful AF Sunday everyone!
xoxox
Rusty
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Good Morning Serene Sunday Friends!!
Thanks for all the quotes today. I love them and will try to hold them close to me especially since I have no Sunday paper yet and I am irked as all get up!! One of my fav things to do is get up early, make eggs and tea and read my paper!! Deep breaths, accept what I cannot control.
Busy day today-One doggie and I are going to a playday and then I have to zoom off to my nephew's 17th birthday party. Busy busy!!
Star-sure hope you're feeling better!!
Cyn-so glad to hear the party went off as planned and that your daughter had a great time. I bet she will carry this memory with her foreever!!
Shoutout to Lav, Rusty, Rustop, G, RB, LBH-another hysterical story!!, Dill and anyone else coming by today.
Hope everyone has a fabulous AF day!!
:lNew Birthday: May 8, 2010
"Because dwelling from, not upon, the space you want to inherit is the fastest way to change absolutely everything."[/i]-The Universe
KO the Beast!!
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Hi All,
Just your newbie tagging along - on day 13 AF (yea).
Cyn - I'm reading First Year Sobriety - When All That Changes is Everything. It was recommended by Sheri from this site. I'm actually reading several books: the MWO book (and abstintention tapes) should be here Tuesday, I'm reading Andre Agassi's autobiography, Open and I've ordered The Tao of Sobriety - Helping You Recover from Alcohol and Drug Addiction.
I love to read so, if any of you guys have book recommendations that I must read, let me know. I still need to visit the "What We're Reading" thread on this site.
Wanted to ask all of you -- did any of you do AA? I'm on that thread and am just still thinking about it. So far I haven't felt in any danger of drinking again, but always like to hear of others' experiences.
Again, thanks for having me here - I'll just observe and tug on your coattails every now and then for advice.
On my way to visit my sister - taking the following:
Homemade bread
Homemade tomato soup
Homemade almond milk
Tulsi Tea
Agave Nectar
Just a testament to what we can do when we're not hungover!!
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Good Sunday Morning Folks:
It felt good for me to sleep in a little later this morning ? even my dog appreciated the extra hour or two of sleep! I am only on my first cup of coffee (yes, Star, I love the stuff too) so I?ll be extra careful to run spell check before I post this message.
rustop61;983324 wrote: Until you make peace with who you are, you'll never be content with what you have. --Doris Mortman
Last night we went out to dinner with neighbors/friends and they insisted I have dessert (which I rarely do) because they haven?t seen me in a while and claimed that I have lost too much weight. We ordered 2 desserts for the 4 of us and I managed to eat the majority of the carrot cake and a peanut butter pie. I am feeling a little ?full? from the sugar overload this morning :H I can?t wait to be able to get back to the gym (hopefully next weekend) so I can start exercising again and build up the muscle tone I have lost. This boy is coming back!
I feel like it?s the countdown to a shuttle launch. In just a little more than 24 hours, they will be cutting off my lovely blue fiberglass cast ? FREEDOM!
Yesterday, I finished reading ?Peony in Love? by Lisa See. This was really an eye opening story of life in China during the mid-17th century and the oppression endured by women. Peony is a 16 year lovesick maiden who is faced with fulfilling her obligations to enter into an arranged marriage. I won?t get too much into the storyline and spoil what happens but it really is a lovely story of how the human spirit can prevail amidst obstacles and intrusions. I also learned quite a bit about the Chinese culture and their traditions/rituals around ancestors and ghosts. It was a fascinating read.
Star ? I have ?The Help? on my reading list. My sister?s book club just read it and she recommended it to me. One of the first things I do when I get mobile is to get a library card. I don?t need to be buying all these books that I?ve been reading!
Chooch - Nice job on the 13 days! Congratulations. It is amazing what we can get accomplished being AF, isn't it? I also enjoy working in the kitchen - it feels great to make homemade meals and goodies.
Lots going on with everyone on this thread so I hope you all take time out to enjoy this Sunday and continue to be grateful for all that is positive in our lives and move forward with optimism and hope.John
AF since 7/13/2010
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GM everyone!
It's a beautiful day, I'm alive so that's good enough for me
Who mentioned senior moments? There are no senior moments here :no:
With EB to watch & 2 new babies on the way I need to keep my wits about myself - not to mention my 25 feathered friends :H
Better get myself in gear. Hope everyone has a wonderful AF Sunday!
LavAF since 03/26/09
NF since 05/19/09
Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:
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Happy Sunday Guys
So many posts to catch up on, we are thriving thread of activity and its wonderful!
Cyn - I hope you are well rested, I know that feeling when you are so tired it hurts but the reward is usually the most beautiful sleep. You are a stepmom to be proud of.
Star - Im glad you are feeling better, looking back I cant believe how awful I was prepared to feel most of the time because of AL! The stupidity blows me away and now as I am so used to feeling good when I am below par it irks me more than ever. I too have developed a big coffee relationship but its now my only vice and im not ready to give it up.
Rustop - I loved your quotes especially the one on forgiveness.
Rusty - Re your friend, Im so glad he turned out to be telling the truth, I always trust people unless they give me cause not too, I believe most people are inherently good and Im rarely proved wrong.
Choochie - I went to AA for the 1st couple of months and it was a help in my vunerable moments and the people are wonderful. On the whole I prefer this forum and the way we interact and as Cyn said coming here to confide in you all has become such an important part of my life. I cannot image better therapy for me than sharing my heart here but AA has helped so many people and it definitely worth trying.
Paguy - how great to be on the final countdown, whats next? Will you be able to start gentle exercise straight away?
Im feeling a bit strange today after another sleepless night. McDreamy came round and I cooked us dinner last night. We snuggled up after on the sofa and watched a movie, it felt very comfortable and he is a lovely company. We talked until the very wee small hours. My typical over analytical brain has been doing overtime today and im concerned we both want this for the wrong reasons. He broke up from a long relationship several months ago and I feel he wants a replacement. Im also suffering hugely from lack off self confidence and cant begin to imagine he can find me interesting, he is such a well read intellectual and I feel way out my depth. he has just called to ask me to a boat launch at the local marina tonight which sounds fabulous but I feel such a phoney getting dressed up to touch shoulders with the beautiful people when I am penniless and afraid inside about my future, its like playing the role of who I used to be and that girl is gone. I should be happy, he is sweet, old fashioned, sincere, very handsome and funny and keeps saying he thinks we fit together nicely. Why am i holding back? I thought I was ready to let go of the past and boy its certainly overdue, I somehow feel this is too good to be true and Im scared to open up and get hurt again."In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer ."
AF - JAN 1st 2010
NF - May 1996
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Hi all,
Why not just go with the flow Chilli? I imagine thing's will become clearer to you as you go along, non?
I wouldn't have a clue really about these thing's, so i'll just wish you all the very best. I suppose if we don't jump in, we'll never know. Gut instinct could be handy here too.
Good luck friend!
Hope everyone's having a marvellous weekend, especially you SD.
'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'
Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-
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Chill, thanks for the info re AA. For now, this place just feels right for me. I will definitely stay open, though, to AA.
OK, I have to give you my two cents on your guy (BIG DISCLAIMER -- OF COURSE THIS IS NOT TO BE MISCONSTRUED AS ADVICE)I am a frustrated matchmaker and every time I meet anyone single I immediately start thinking "Who do I know that I can fix them up with...." So, here's my sage observation (after many relationships throughout my life). THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ANSWER!! No, seriously...........
I don't know you Chill, but you seem like an absolutely outstanding person. I remember when I first started dating my ex - he was an attorney, extremely handsome, accomplished, brilliant, etc. etc. I felt like you do - like I wasn't cut out for his crowd, etc. But everything worked out - it was a slow process but we really did fall in love and had a very happy life. Now, all that changed, but our getting together really was a wonderful thing. Of course at this juncture you're not even trying to think super far down the road. But just think about how fantastic people on this site think you are! And money - that doesn't matter. Good chemistry and friendship combined - now that's the key!!:l
Now, having said all that and thinking of your "I'm not that girl anymore comment".........I am not a person now who would ever be interested in someone like my ex again. I would be more likely to want to be with a farmer than an attorney if you know what I mean. I'm being a little tongue in cheek - but I just mean someone down to earth because that's where I'm at now. I don't care about fancy restaurants anymore, glitzy traveling anymore, (all of which we did). So, I think having things in common and being of the same mindset are important. When we're young we just have different priorities. I'm sure I'm 8-10 years older than you?? Not sure - can't remember from your bio.
Anyway, thanks for telling us about your journey. We can live vicariously.......
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