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    #16
    af daily sat 19 march

    :bday7: :bday7: :bday7: :bday7: :bday7: :bday7:

    DG
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    AF since December 22nd 2008
    Real change is difficult, and slow, and messy - Oliver Burkeman

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      #17
      af daily sat 19 march

      greeneyes;1080699 wrote: As for the other thing.....I was a participant in the humorous end of it after-the-fact and on another thread entirely. A public thread on a public forum; no secrets behind closed doors. The jesting was proved an effective way to diffuse brewing ill feelings from some unfounded remarks and/or their interpretation as such. Laughter is the best medicine after all and there was not meanness behind the activity. So, besides being queen of the universe, I am also her royal tartness although no longer exemplified by the color of my font (spoken with a raised eyebrow and a silent t, please). That is all.
      I missed all that. I need to stay in more :H:H
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      Real change is difficult, and slow, and messy - Oliver Burkeman

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        #18
        af daily sat 19 march

        "As for the "substitutes" well....I was too busy reading about the negative side effects of AA to read about all the great substitutes for alcohol. Seriously - this is a wide open forum where we are free to discuss whatever we want. That openess has pluses and minuses. I'm really glad that we can discuss the My Way Out program, but also AA, SMART, Antabuse, Bac, TSM, etc. etc. Along with that freedom of speech comes freedom to agree or disagree. Freedom to choose which threads and posters to commune with, and freedom to look the other way on stuff that clearly doesn't fit my program."

        The first sentence made me chuckle, because I read part of that thread too.:H To each their own I say. What works for one, might not work for another. I am amazed at how the topic of Naltrexone has increased on the forum. I also think there are probably good AA (or anything else) groups as well as not so good. I know there are all kinds of different types. In the book Sober for Good, the author asked from input from all types of drinkers who have quit--she calls them masters. One of the recurring comments are how the ONLY thing the medical profession offered them was AA. Which didn't help many of these people. But some talked about SMART or Rational Rec., or others that worked for them. I do think the medical profession does not serve the people with drinking problems or any addiction for that matter well. Perhaps it is because many of them are addicts themselves? Or is it just not keeping up with the times?

        cas?ti?gate
           /ˈk?stɪˌgeɪt/ Show Spelled[kas-ti-geyt] Show IPA
        –verb (used with object), -gat?ed, -gat?ing.
        1.
        to criticize or reprimand severely.
        2.
        to punish in order to correct.

        Hey, at least I learned a new word.
        Anyway, Happy 29th or 53rd birthday DG, can't wait to see that video on youtube!
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        AF since September 28, 2008
        DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
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        :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
        5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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        The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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          #19
          af daily sat 19 march

          Wanted to share this:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Me6K6OgaY&feature=player_embedded#at=41[/video]]YouTube - Full Moon Meditation to Release Negativity, Doreen Virtue
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          AF since September 28, 2008
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          :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
          5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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          The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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            #20
            af daily sat 19 march

            Happy Birthday Doggygirl! I'm surprised, for some reason, to hear that you're 53. I always imagined that you were younger than me (I'm 46). I guess it's the youthful freshness of your "voice", the "girl" in your name, and a photo I remember...didn't you used to have pic as your Avatar? Was it you? Anyway, you have a youthful spirit, that's for sure. And 53 is the new 29.

            I love the way you have turned your life around and as Mario said, the way you are living your sober life! Thanks for being here for all of us!

            Sara
            "When she enjoyed her drinking she couldn't control it, and when she controlled it, she couldn't enjoy it." (from The Big Book)

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              #21
              af daily sat 19 march

              ****Sandwich Post Warning****



              DG! Hope it's been a blast and here is to many many more!! Yes, when will the video be up on You Tube? :H

              I saw that thread too and looked only because I wanted to see what someone thought was so bad about AA. I too almost jumped in to defend what went on the day BB left but then I thought it wouldn't matter. People believe what they want. We know what happened and why. I feel bad that she left but I feel very strongly that this is an Abstinence ONLY thread. There are plenty of other threads available and I do post and love all the people on another thread in the abs section and have no problem with it being a little looser than this one. Both threads serve my needs and I wouldn't trade them for the world. That is all.

              I feel like I've been away for weeks and it's only been a few days!
              Bear-I'm so proud of you. You've worked so hard this past month and you can really tell the difference. Keep peeling that onion girl!! I hope you have a great weekend away!

              LVT-I'm so sorry to hear that Terri is back in the hospital and may have to go to a nursing home. Mega pings being sent her way. Your 2 years of sobriety are a great inspiration to me too. I've only been on here less than a year but I've seen you go through so much and stay true to yourself and your goal of your best life. You rock!!

              Greenie-hope that pin hole didn't turn into a gusher! Plumber's putty is my best friend!!

              Mario-I love having you pop in! Please don't stop!

              Deter-hope you're on your way home. Coconut Cream Pie? Yummo!! anything coconut is heaven in my eyes!!

              Sarah-love your posts about Smart Recovery. I definitely have to check out their online community.

              Lav-I think spring is finally here? 2 nice days in a row and somewhat warm to boot!! Only a smidge of snow left in the yard. Yippee!!

              Well, I have been a busy busy bee! I took Friday off and worked out doors in the morning and inside in the afternoon. I cleaned out the fish pond and YES!! All 8 fishies are alive and thriving by the size of them!! Cleaned up around the pond too. Can't wait for the ornamental grass to start growing again!
              I had a shot of creativity in my office again. I'm getting very close to taking down the nursery border and painting. Still need to get a bookcase but for now its OK.

              The foam couch that I brought up from the basement a while ago had been covered with 2 very cheap pink fleece blankets that pilled like crazy (and DD loves to eat the fuzzies!!). I also had that green plaid tab curtain on the window and my rubbermaid storage units were in the middle of the floor. I had gone to xmas tree shops and they had bamboo roll up shades on sale. I needed a topper for it and went searching the house. I had gotten rid of all my curtains. duh. But, in a blanket chest, I found a whole bed in a bag- sheets, pillowcases, shams and bedskirt (comforter too) that i had bought years ago before dogs when I used to entertain and have overnight guests. I took the pillowcases and made a valence for the shade. I took the fitted sheet and used it as a slip cover. the storage bins are covered by the flat sheet, the shams are self explanatory (also found extra pillows) and the bed skirt I cut down to fit the the couch. On top of the guazy part of the bed skirt is a beige towel that somewhat matches the beige in the sheets. So, for less than $10 I have a whole new office! As you can see the dogs LOVE their new bed. That's Mickey posing.



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              After I was done it was about 5pm and I decided we all needed a nice walk. Funny the difference a year makes! No way would I have loaded up the dogs for a walk at 5pm if I hadn't gotten AL out of my life! No sir, 5pm was Liquor Store time!!

              Today was the Nosework class for my LM (Guinness) and he was the star pupil!! We've never done this before but I think I'm hooked! Can't wait to practice with him. Finally LM has a job!!

              After the class, my friend and I went to the Boat/RV show which was very disappointing in terms of volume and variety. Oh well, we got in and parked for free so nothing wasted. Nice to dream, that's for sure!! Then we went to her son's house to check out her 23' trailer we'll be taking up to NH for the agility trial at the end of April. Very nice actually (surprisingly so based on what her house looks like!!) Her son is going to give me a lesson on hooking it up and driving it with her truck. Yikes!!!!
              The rest of the day was spent just relaxing with the boys and now it's time for dinner!! Tomorrow I hope will be just as nice and I hope to get a few more outside chores done. God I love having the weekends free!!
              New Birthday: May 8, 2010

              "Because dwelling from, not upon, the space you want to inherit is the fastest way to change absolutely everything."[/i]-The Universe

              KO the Beast!!

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                #22
                af daily sat 19 march

                :bday3::bday7::bday1: HAPPY BIRTHDAY DG :bday3::bday7::bday1:
                I definitely want a link for your video!!!!

                Ending up spending the afternoon with my daughter & granddaughter. Very nice, very relaxing - Lav is happy!

                I'm about to fire up the smudge stick.......this super moon thing is worrying me!!!

                Wishing everyone a great AF evening!
                Lav
                AF since 03/26/09
                NF since 05/19/09
                Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                  #23
                  af daily sat 19 march

                  No papmom--YOU rock! I love what you did in that room!!! I esp love the shade, but I am a BIG fan of pink! I spend the last 3 days cleaning and organizing my office and today I picked up and cleaned the rest of the house, AND cleaned the bathrooms. Now I am going for a walk. It all seems like a distant memory, but in my previous life, I would probably be at least half way into a 12 pack by now! The rest of my evening will consist of a pizza and a movie.
                  Yay for sobriety!
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                  AF since September 28, 2008
                  DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
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                  :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
                  5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
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                  The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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                    #24
                    af daily sat 19 march

                    Thanks Marshy and LVT and Lav and Sara and P3 for the b-day wishes!

                    Sara, I am young at heart. At least I feel that way now. I feel MUUUCH younger than when I was in my 40's and dying mentally, physically and spiritually from AL poisoning. Life is good now. When I think back to the many days (even post AF) where I LOOONNNNGED to drink normally - I don't know what I was thinking. What positive did AL ever bring to my life? Addiction is crazy.

                    Lav - so where is the new piccy of Lily??? Hmmm????

                    P3 - WOWZA!!!! You are amazingly creative with bed sheets girl!!! That looks FABULOUS!!!!! What is nosework??? Is that tracking??? Tracking ROCKS. You sound so happy and I am happy for you! Glad the fishies made it too. :h

                    Well, I'm off to tan and shower and then kick back with a movie or something. Weight Watchers on-line tally training is going to have to wait until tomorrow. I will be unhung so no worries!

                    One thing is for sure...

                    DG
                    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                    One day at a time.

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                      #25
                      af daily sat 19 march

                      Hey all,

                      Hope you are well and dg - many happy returns!

                      I have read back the thread and I want to comment myself on a couple of points raised so apologies for not responding specifically to anyone. I am also on my iPhone and it's not easy to comment and read at the same time.

                      First, I read any thread on here that interests me and often I don't even realise what parts of the forum they have been started on until someone points it out to me. There have been a couple of contentious threads but I think we are all pretty strong believers in freedom of speech so while I might not agree with the content, I am pleased they have a place to air them. As no doubt you are all aware, I did jump in and say my piece and was well kind of insulted, but I am sure I did a bit of insulting myself so c'est la vie. I chose to get involved and therefore I am totally ok with the repercussions. As far as the comments about particular comments around my other thread and us being nasty or whatever, it was all done in jest although I would be lying if I said some of it didn't come from a place of anger and hurt. But if people were upset or angered by any of the comments being made then they could have jumped in. It's a public forum.

                      As far as the bb situation goes, if I am being totally honest, I think some of the comments were harsh and could have been phrased in a bit more of a helpful way. But remember, a lot is lost over the Internet as you cant hear tone or see expressions. I am I total agreement though, an abs thread is not a place to advocate drinking or moderating but I do think if regular posters bring those ideas to the table then I do think it's coming from a place of seeking help as opposed to actively pursuing it. I am very disappointed in myself for not saying this at the time but i didn't feel comfortable as I was only new to the thread and I didn't particularly want it to descend into an argument with sides being taken etc. I am not saying it would have but it still upsets me that I didn't do more at the time. I don't think anyone intentionally meant to hurt anyone and I want to be clear that these are my opinions. But i can see why bb felt the way she did.

                      So there ya go. I am no angel and I am passing no judgement. I think everyone on this thread is awesome and gotten me thru some hard times. I am just being honest.

                      Xx
                      'Breakfast, every hour, it could save the world.' Tori Amos

                      "Turn a stumbling block into a stepping stone."

                      AF since 23rd December 2010 - progession is paramount! :truce:

                      "don't be sad because it's over, smile because it happened!"

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                        #26
                        af daily sat 19 march

                        Cassia, thank you for the well wishes.

                        Please understand that many of us have been here a long time. There is sometimes history behind what goes on that may not be apparent when one is new. There is nothing to be done about that - it just "is." When you have been here for years, you too will recognize certain patterns of behavior and respond accordingly. And someone else who hasn't seen it all before will think you are being harsh or whatever. That too is just part of this community. Something to keep in mind.

                        DG
                        Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                        Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                        One day at a time.

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                          #27
                          af daily sat 19 march

                          Thanks DG! You can no doubt appreciate why I was reluctant to say anything.
                          'Breakfast, every hour, it could save the world.' Tori Amos

                          "Turn a stumbling block into a stepping stone."

                          AF since 23rd December 2010 - progession is paramount! :truce:

                          "don't be sad because it's over, smile because it happened!"

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                            #28
                            af daily sat 19 march

                            Hey Cassia-well said and DG well said too. Let's start a new day tomorrow and put this all behind us.

                            DG-I don't think Nosework is exactly tracking but it is getting the dog to discern different scents so i think it can lead up to tracking. Today we used boxes in a ring area and hit their yummiest treats in one and they had to find it without the handler leading them to it. they were all on leash so it was hard to hold it loose and just let them find it on their own. I ended up closing my eyes so I couldn't see which box the treats were put in. The last round they put more obstacles in the ring but still used the treats. We're not sure when the next session will be as timing is getting tough with agility coming up and a number of us plus the instructor all compete. I do know that she had supplies for the advanced session which unfortunately no one signed up for. These supplies looked like there were different scents on Q tips and cotton balls. There might be a class near you if you're interested. It involves absolutely NO exercise or exertion on the handler's part but the doggies sure get tired!! :H
                            BTW-I agree with Sarah in that you don't even come close to looking 53!!

                            thanks for the kudos LVT and DG-I am pretty freakin' proud of myself!! I can visualize the painting in the very near future now that the most overwhelming part is done.
                            New Birthday: May 8, 2010

                            "Because dwelling from, not upon, the space you want to inherit is the fastest way to change absolutely everything."[/i]-The Universe

                            KO the Beast!!

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                              #29
                              af daily sat 19 march

                              Papmom, that is WONDERFUL work! It looks beautiful. Now I'm inspired.
                              "When she enjoyed her drinking she couldn't control it, and when she controlled it, she couldn't enjoy it." (from The Big Book)

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