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**Newgrange** · June 12, 2011, 02:32 AM

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Morning Bear and all to come! Sounds like you are going to have a busy day Bear. Enjoy yummy pancakes!

I am feeling better, was in one of those 'isolated' spaces in my head and a dose of flu in the past few weeks but improving daily now.

Busy day ahead!

**Loppy lugs** · June 12, 2011, 06:44 AM

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Morning everyone,

I want to come back.......I haven't done very well for a long time now. Whenever I see DGs post I remember starting our sobriety at the same time and am encouraged that she was able to stick with it whereas I only lasted 8 months. There are a lot of people here who inspire me. The garlicy one's wise words always help as well.

I have really hit rock bottom and will have to work hard to rebuild everything and can only hope that people will forgive me but that can only be their choice, I can't make it for them. I can only show them how genuinely ashamed and sorry I am.

I am booked to start an assisted detox on Friday. They can't fit me in sooner but I guess in this country a week isn't bad. My useage has been too high for me to safely go cold turkey alone.

All is not doom and gloom though. I am off to town later to see the Merchants of Bollywood at the Peacock which should be loads of fun. My friend and I are having dinner first. She was very supportive when I gave up before and was a great help with the panic attacks which fingers crossed will not hit me this time. She doesn't drink much so doesn't really understand the addicition but somehow that helps.

Hope everyone has a great Sunday. Still raining here but thankfully not too badly.

**papmom3** · June 12, 2011, 08:24 AM

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Hi Loppy-welcome back and nice to meet you! Good luck with the detox-I'm glad you will be doing it safely. Please stay with us and post a bit more so us newcomes can get to know you.
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**jennyneric** · June 12, 2011, 08:49 AM

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Good Morning and welcome Newgrange and Loppy! P3 I would never call you a newbie but everything is relative I guess. I killed myself at the gym yesterday with mostly ab exercises, I don't think I can go today, I hurt to bad! I think I will try every other day maybe Friday, Sun, Tues, Thus, the Sat, Mon, wed, Friday. I have to register for more classes on Wednesday. I want to take 4 but I wonder if that is too much, 2 is kicking my butt right now however they are only 6 week classes and the fall is four months I would think that would slow it down a bit. Biology is on the list! I think that will be so fun!

Have a good one guys, I'll check back later!

**Determinator** · June 12, 2011, 11:44 AM

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Loppy Luggs, so fabulous to have you back!

heres a fun song for everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVHQNGzPbOI[/video]]YouTube - ‪The Submarines - 1940 (With lyrics)‬&rlm;

**Kaslo** · June 12, 2011, 01:43 PM

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SO HEY FABBERS!! Good morning, one and all, and hello to returning Loppy. I havent been on here for long, so I missed your first crack at it. DG has been my big inspiration on here too, P3, Greenie and Lav, so helpful to read thier posts and better understand and succeed at the whole process of gaining sobriety for life. I did not even realize there could be places like this to help me, until a few months ago. Keep posting. I am almost at 5 months, just 2 days away. So the fact that you fell at 6 months scares the crap out of me.

Wow, Deter, where was THAT from? I vaguely remember the Submarines, I think.... very interesting. I loved that. Especially the ending with the depth sounder.

So my thing today is to try and take a break from the madness. Its been constant travel since April really, all over the BC and Alberta, some of it driving some flying, and I am not able to concentrate on home. It just took me an hour to unpack my personal stuff! Dont even want to think about what is in the lab and office. And I am not looking forward to tomorrows pile of poo.

I hope everyone has a nice day. I get one weekend day this week, sorting out where to put the gks and dear daughter when they come for Fathers day.

best to all, love from Kaslo

PS to who it was who asked what training I took? Here is my answer....it may be possible to figure out who I actually am from this.... hope not.

I m 57 now. I started working on my parents ranch/farm as a child, coyboying, riding fence and listening to my elders talk about weather and crops and weeds. I did a biology degree in 1981, specializing in plant ecology and wildlife habitat. I took a lot of courses on toxics and stress ecology. I worked on lichens which are sensitive to air pollution. I also worked on woodland caribou, they rely on lichens for winter food. So I had two paths in my practice, one was wildlife ecology in response to disturbance and the other was pollution and stress effects on vegetation. I did a masters degree in 1999-2001 on the recover of an ecosystem from 100 years of heavy metals and sulphur dioxide exposures. Soils, vegetation and wildlife recovery, that is. I am working on papers to be published from 10 years of research on that. They MAY be a PhD, but i havent decided I need that kind of headache. I started a small consulting firm in 1979 when I was still an undergraduate. So I have been at this for 31 years, but i have to say it has not been a picnic. Also, I think my 10 year period of too much alcohol consumption from about 1995 to 2005 was not any where near as bad as some of the people I have met here, but it was definetely causing problems toward the end. I was a driven professional who worked very hard but had periods, often brief where I was drinking too much alone on off. I never blacked out, never drank in the mornings, but i definely was up to where I drank most of the evenings of the weekend, occassionally during the week, up to half a bottle of wine usually, and that was enough to get me addicted, and make my decision making skills memory etc impaired. I sometimes wonder how many people out there actually drink that much and think its normal. For me, it was not normal, and not a good idea, in the tests I took I come out non-alcoholic allergic. After having two hip replacements and seeing what happens to my liver first hand, literally, it made me really want to quit. Cold turkey for me.... and there is more to say about that but already I think I have hogged this entire thread. But thats the answer to a question asked of me. I KNOW there are several other professionals on here who also have fought the battle. Several times i tried to quit and failed. So here is an orange juice toast to abstinence. It makes the heart grow stronger.

**papmom3** · June 12, 2011, 03:07 PM

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Kaslo;1129861 wrote: PS to who it was who asked what training I took? Here is my answer....it may be possible to figure out who I actually am from this.... hope not.

Why? Are you famous? I haven't figured out who you are yet, but I think you are located approx. 30 km north of my aunt.

**Kaslo** · June 12, 2011, 07:19 PM

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Pap, thats hilarious! Can you send me a PM and tell me where she is? If it starts with a T you are right. (No I am not famous. thank god).

**Determinator** · June 12, 2011, 08:23 PM

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owch. I fell off the wagon today. not fun

**papmom3** · June 12, 2011, 08:53 PM

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Deter!! WTF??? Why? what trigger did you miss?

**Determinator** · June 12, 2011, 09:22 PM

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there was a 'mostly empty' bottle of scotch in the spare bedroom. I stumbled upon it in my most dire of bad moods last night and the rest is history. just stupid....I'm so sorry to be a poor example. please don't follow in my footsteps. it's not worth it.

**jennyneric** · June 12, 2011, 09:25 PM

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I'm sorry you had a bad day Det but you know what to do! Happier times are right around the corner I'm sure!

**Kaslo** · June 13, 2011, 12:02 AM

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Oops. Sorry Deter. How long have you been on the dang wagon, any way?

Well get back on, then. I would sure like to know if this is common and how to avoid it.

kaslo

**bear73** · June 13, 2011, 05:27 AM

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get back on Det -- you can do this - and clear the house of booze.
I drank because i have repeatedly make the same mistakes over and over.
You can do this - you are inspiring.

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