AF Daily Sunday 19 July

[Lavande]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

M3 - cross posted.
Meant to say glad you are feeling better & wonderful about your daughter!
It's so cool when you kid does something like that. I was very emotional when my son received his Eagle Scout award after having such a turbulent childhood

[momof3]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

DG, This is a follow up to my last post re: The Dalai Lama. Here is what he said on the lawn of the U.S. Capitol on Saturday.


"Too much self-centered attitude leads to fear, distrust." "And with that, you will find it very difficult to communicate with other people, because you, yourself, deep inside will be suffering from a sense of insecurity."

[ThreeDogNight]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Rehab Day six

Well, it's day six, and second day with no groups going on. It has been fine, thank goodness! Had a very busy day yesterday--went for an almost four mile walk at 6:30 a.m. with my "bathroom" mate, as we both get up around 5:30 every morning. Unfortunately, she has an old knee injury from skiing, and her knee popped out. Had to get a brace and ice pack while we were all strolling around town looking in the shops. Three os us went to a noon meeting. Friday night I was planning for a 7:30 p.m. meeting, but one of the women in our group got a call from abrother to tell her that her older borther--61 years of age--had been arrested trying to 300 lbs of marijuana over the Mexican border!!! Guess he was caught once before. jail sentence will be five to 40 years, not possibility of posting bond. She was very upset, and there was no emergency counselor or phone number to call. The "staff" at this residenc hall are just recovering addicts, and the woman on duty was of no help--just said that the woman had to cry it out!! Well, two of us spent time with her and she took a sleeping medication and went to bed early. We had her with us yesterday for the meeting and the shopping trip, and we all had snacks and dinner back at the residence. So I missed Friday's meeting, but felt that this was more important, Went to a 10o a.m. meeting today with this woman, then stopped at a cafe and relaxed a bit. I went back and did my laundry, then came to sit outside the public library as i can catch the signal and access the Internet. Will head back soon and sit out on the patio. Some of my house mates--actually, almost all--have really awful stories. I am the only one not on any meds, and I am thankful for that! Taking lots of supplements, and using the sleep and subliminal CDs to help me sleep. Haven't slept this well in years!!! No waking in the middle of the night in a sweat with my heart pounding. I am staying focused and am looking foward to the upcoming week's groups.

There is one guy here that is really trying my patience, as he follows a couple of us everywhere, and we have had to be rude to him to get him to stop. Just a half hour ago, he appeared here and couldn't seem to see that i was doing emails, even though I told him. He has some serious issues, but I can't stand being around him. He doesn't spend any time with any of the guys, and is pretty rude to them.

Anyway, very warm weather here (Vermont), and tomorrow it is supposed to get to ninety degrees. Glad the classrooms are air conditioned!

Hope you are all enjoying a great AF weekend!

TDN

[Bean]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Argh! Just lost whole post... Can't face retyping. In essence it said:

I drank on Friday and Saturday.
I've been thinking lately about trying to moderate.
I don't have a plan but I will figure something out. I know this bit is crucial.
I've got a crazy week ahead with a Friday deadline for a 10,000 word research project that I've only written about 1000 words on so far....so my head is tied up with that. Next week I can dedicate some time to the serious thinking that I need to do.

I know that the odds of successfully moderating aren't great but the stubborn part of me wants to prove otherwise. I've never made a serious attempt to moderate so I want to see for myself if I can do it.

Now...to the dreaded assignment.
Bean

[LVT25]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Mom3, I tend to get emotional in church whenever the youth do anything. But I would give anything to be able to hear your daughter's reading. It sounds so awesome.:h

Lav--I keep asking myself where my kind, sweet, mannerly husband went-and where did this ass come from. But I knew all along he was this way. I guess I'm just less tolerant because I quit drinking just to be on the same level as him. I wised up, and he seems to be going down a path that scares the hell out of me. So, I just have to believe things will work out the way they were meant to. Like DG said, whether the praying helps him or not, it DOES make me feel better--so I know it works. Hugs to you sister!:l

[Determinator]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

back from a glorious morning at the range (private area in the mountains with wonderful views of the Sierras).

Papmom, what you wrote here really resonates with me: if I ever do go down that road, there is no coming out the other end for me. I will drink until I die

I don't have the luxury of wondering what to do about alcohol. AL= death, destruction, pain and misery. there is no mental struggle anymore when I think about this logically. at least it's simple

Bean, all I can say is Noce te Ipsum. that will guide you to the truth.

Mom3, what a wonderful morning for you and daughter. I'm so jealous you get to see the Dalai himself! very cool.

think I'll have some Greek yogurt.....

be well peeps xxxx

[papmom3]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Well good Deter. Just remember that thought next time AL comes a knocking. Just remember the DTs and the visit to the clinic for withdrawal meds last time and just remember you almost died after your dental procedure which means there is a weak link in your body that won't be helped by AL.

Bean-good luck with moderating. I bet there are some good ideas and tips over on the monthly moderators thread for you. Unfortunately we can't help you with that journey on this thread as none of us here can moderate and we know it.

Busy hot day today. Mowed the front tundra, tried to bleach the pot the honeysuckle in going in but it's too far gone so off to HD I go tomorrow for white spray paint. Dang. Cleaned up the basement finally (those spiders got BIG!!) and rearranged it for optimum tornado safety. Can't wait to get my papasan chair and to find a rug that won't cost me the rest of my savings account. Vacuumed the back part of the house and did 2 loads of laundry. Filled DD's pool and let him chase the jet spray from the hose for a while. Everyone is now sacked out and trying to stay cool. Will be in the 90's tomorrow and T-Storms on Tues then a cold front comes in. I haven't done a thing to the Paphut since the beginning of June and I'm feeling very guilty. Must find some time to at least tape off the stripes and start spray painting again.

Not sure what to do for dinner. The chicken hasn't defrosted yet so I'll be grilling tomorrow nite instead. Maybe I'll just finish off the ice cream I bought yesterday!

[greeneyes]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Bean, After a year AF I wanted to be in agreement with some friends and family that my drinking was circumstantial and that since I'd been apart from the "cause" for a year that surely I was fine and could "resume" normal drinking. Sure enough.... I ended up with a glass in my hand in the AM. noce te ipsum - I never was a normal drinker. Resume normal drinking? No such thing for me. Were you ever a normal drinker bean?

And then there's that saying... once a pickle, you can't go back to being a cucumber.

[Guitarista]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Momma3,

that's beautiful re your daughter's speech!

Bean, time will tell you whether you are able to moderate or not. Just be safe. It's a journey many of us take, and we need that question answered. Remember to listen and observe yourself, because alcohol and our addictive mind is a liar, and will do anything it can to keep us drinking, so be honest with yourself, and be very careful. My take on it is that after a certain point, our body chemistry thinks drinking is normal, and so it tell's us to drink, drink, drink. But this is just our body/brain chemistry doing what it thinks is normal, and thinks our system needs, because we've 'trained' it to run on AL.

Greenie, i like what you said about us not diminishing our own feelings, or comparing them to other's woe's. Yep, we feel stuff for a reason, and our feeling's/thoughts are just as valid and important as anyone else's.

I'm off to furbergers for a rug.

L8tr, Yo!

[Lavande]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Not sure what furbergers is G but hope you have fun :H

Bean, I have to agree with the majority here -
I can honestly tell you that I just don't know if I can be a normal drinker again & at this point it just doesn't matter. I can live just fine without AL in my life. I'm missing nothing!

LVT, like you I thought YB would finally get happy when I quit. But his change in personality is what got me started in the first place. When we were young & both happy drinking was never an issue. Dealing with his depression got me into a pretty serious depression which I tried to drink though (as stupid as that sounds now). I can't change any of that but I can forgive myself.

papmom, I think your kids should give you a break :H
sometimes it's a good thing when they grow up & move away :H

Picked another million zucchini & cucumbers tonight. I have no where to store them
Also picked another pound of green beans & the first few plum tomatoes - yum.
I grilled zucchini & yellow squash along with turkey burgers for myself, daughter & son-in-law. Pretty good

[greeneyes]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Guitarista;1145160 wrote: I'm off to furbergers for a rug.

snicker

M3 I so wish I could have heard your daughter. What a special moment for you both. :h
What you said about the dalai lama struck a chord.

TDN, you sound good!

Jen.. you drank?? What was THAT about?

P3, no rugs on freecycle?

Well, there weren't enough hours in the day for me. Again. sigh.... But I did go to a birthday party for a 2 year old. What a trip! All the adults drank but me. I had some zero coke - whatever that is. Zero alcohol I guess. :H

[jennyneric]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Hello again all! It sure has been a great day! I chilled and watched IV and ran and am about to eat dinner and watch Celeb rehab.

P3's questions:what exactly did you hope to get from it? Were you looking for that one hour or so of AHHHHH relaxation-school is over, I fixed my car now time to just numb out? Did you get the feeling/reaction you were looking for? Was it worth it? Was it better than getting through the end of school etc AF? Were you surprised at how drunk you became (if you did) with a relatively small amount of AL than what you were used to drinking and were you surprised at how shitty you felt yesterday?

Answers: I'm not sure I really expected to get anything, maybe I just wanted to know if it still could have fun while drinking, maybe I was thinking the ultimate control would be to drink and not loose control. I was looking for the release, looking to just turn off the chatter in my brain. It was worth it for the two hours, then it was not worth it for the next, say 20ish hours. I don't know that I can compare getting through AF or not AF, I think when I am AF there is no celebration, nothing to mark an occasion. I really don't want to mark an occasion by being drunk but having a couple of drinks to mark an action seamed fine to me, it wasn't though. I normally drank 8 oz to get drunk, I drank a little less than 1/2 that, I was not depressed the next day but the feeling I had the next morning was yucky to say the least. I did get drunk for an hour or so then the buzz wore off, I was not surprised by either of the last two questions. I got exactly what I expected.

Loppy~you sound like you are doing well, thanks for starting us off today and I am glad to have you as a new face around here.

G-man~you work does sound rewarding, I'm glad you started checking in regular! All the girls around here seem to like it to!

Greenie~do you like the bathroom now? Is it finished? What's happening with the carpet?

DG~so scary stuff for you at dog training! In you old posts I remember reading the Saturday afternoon dog training was always very hard for you (like Friday night for me). Way back when you vowed to never loose your sobriety at dog training again, I glad you stuck to that! You are always an inspiration. How do you celebrate the big accomplishments?

Lav~you have veg out the ying yang! You and your family should be sooo healthy! Did YB catch the snake, did you tell him about it? Did he care?

LVT25~your and my hubby could be very good friends. The memory thing pisses me off too!

DET~Hows you weekend? Did you and DX get to chill at all?

M3~you daughter sounds incredible! And I would love to see the Dali lama! I've been studding Buddhism for about 6 years now!

P3~ thank you for caring so much! And yes I got the belly band instructions! Sad to say they look to hard for me. I am not really a sewer! I do have the material though, I'm tempted to send you so money and the stuff and ask if you would do it for me.

TDN~you rehab sounds good. I'm sorry about the creepy guy, isn't there always at least one of those though?

Bean~ re:modding, it always seams to bring heartbreak. I've never seen it end well, not with me, not with anyone. And we have all tried! But we must do what we must do!

Anyone with any advice on how to celebrated AF, it is most welcome here!

Goodnight all. Thank you for your care, tough love, and support. I would have never gotten this far without all of you!

[Determinator]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

ok then, couldn't get the Garlic Man outfit together because I can't find my gloves....maybe next weekend. I do however have a hysterically humiliating youtube video I made on a dare. it's a parody of some of the 'tactical' instructional videos that have been popular lately.
ok, I can't bear to look.......

https://www.mywayout.org/community/f8...s-2-32802.html

[Determinator]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

oops, wrong thread. here we go


https://www.mywayout.org/community/f8...s-3-32568.html

[papmom3]

AF Daily Sunday 19 July

Det-which video is it???? The link goes to our "What we're listening to" thread.

Hi Jen, glad you checked in and thank you for your answers. I need to digest them and then I'm sure I'll have more to say!:H
As far as the bellybands go they are rediculously easy! I am NOT a sewer! Before I started making these I hadn't turned on a machine in 40 years. I am dead serious. If I can do this and if you can fix your car, you can make a belly band.
1. Cut out the band-length is what you want, width is what you want doubled. I use 13x5 for smalls and 18x5 for large so I cut out a rectangle 13x 10. 2.Fold the material in half lenghtwise right sides together so it's now 5" wide. Sew bottom and side with 1/2" seam allowance and sew about 2/3 of the top. 3.Turn it right side out (you can use a knitting needle to poke a sharp corner; 4. now stitch around all 4 sides as a decorative border but doing this also closes the top. 5. If you don't want to sew on velcro you can use a large safety/baby pin to hold it on your dog. Otherwise cut out a longish piece of velcro-I put the velcro together so I make the 2 pieces the same length- and just sew it on the band about 1/2 inch from the top and 1/2" from the bottom on opposite sides. You'll know if you didn't do it right!

Alternatively find a larger bandana, fold it until it is about 4-5 " wide, put the incontinence pad inside and safety pin it or tie it around your dog.

can't sleep. Mickey is super uncomfortable and LM made me get up and let him out. Good thing he actually had business to do and didn't want to just graze!!