AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

[Determinator]

AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

On my phone here.

Super posts everyone! You all get a gold star and a garlic muffin

Made it to lake Tahoe and im going to hang out for a martial arts class

Sure is pretty up here!

Jenny you can do this! You and daughter can enjoy a wonderfull AF. Birthday!

Be well everyone xxxx

[Lavande]

AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

IJM, I understand exactly what you are saying because I am one who grew up in an anxiety ridden household, was sent to Catholic school with a bunch of mean, nasty nuns (sorry). Anxiety has always been a factor in my life. I was never depressed though - quite the opposite. I was filled with hope that I could & would make a better life for myself, my husband & kids. Sometime while I was busy doing all that (and drinking like a normie) my husband fell into what became a chronic depression & refused to have it treated. After years of trying to help him out - I fell in myself. That's when I decided to medicate myself with lots & lots of wine. So for me, chronic anxiety led to chronic depression & a wine addiction. Lexapro numbed the anxiety but did lift my depression a bit (I have to admit). I may have been able to quit drinking back then but my husbands behavior just kept getting worse & I didn't know what else to do but try to ignore him. That didn't work! When I finally had a really good reason to quit (the birth of my grandson) I made some major changes. Dropped the Lexapro because I didn't want that numbed feeling anymore, started on the OTC I talked about before & got myself feeling better enough to really, really want to quit drinking & I did.
To answer your question, I think you owe it to yourself to work with your Doc & try out some other meds that may be tolerable. Or just give the OTC a try for a while I figure I am going to continue on the OTC forever & I'm fine with that. It's just another capsule in my handful of supplements I take twice a day & it has helped me get to the place I am today

DG, it's kind of strange Johny Depp is so popular in your textbooks. Do you think he knows he's being used as an example of how not to be? :H

Hi M3! The schools around here started last week but were closed yesterday because of the lack of power everywhere

Hi Doglvr! I'm enjoying the post Irene beautiful weather here too

[greeneyes]

AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

It was not a good day in remodelville. Good thing I don't drink. That is all.

[LVT25]

AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

"I think that the discussion on learning to cope with the lows in life without alcohol is a valid one and I am one of the folks who is learning to do that since I started drinking at such an early age. What IJM is talking about is different and I for one would not want him to come away with the impression that we are saying that he just has to learn to cope better (i.e., go off of the meds) because that may not be the case. I don't think that this was the intention; I think the discussion turned to a slightly different topic."


Yep-what she said.
I also agree with mom3 that many people self medicate with drugs and alcohol. My son's doctor told me that when I expressed my concern about him becoming dependent on his meds--he said on the contrary most with ADD that don't get treatment end up using other means to feel better.

I was taking AD's once upon a time, and drinking too. Seemed counterproductive so I quit taking the Lexapro--but I don't think I ever had clinical depression--just a lot of sadness and stress when my parents were sick and dying. I feel for those that have that problem.

What a stressful, yet kind of productive today. Goodnight.:h

[greeneyes]

AF Daily - Tuesday August 30

momof3;1171289 wrote: IJM, I think your point is very well taken and very much aligned with Doggygirl's studies on dual-diagnosis. Depression is a serious disease in and of itself and the studies on dual-diagnosis show that folks who have clinical depression (or anxiety, or ADHD) are prone to self-medicating with alcohol (or some other substance) This in turn leads to another big fat problem called addiction. In other words, for some, the alcohol did not cause the depression; it was used as a means of coping with the depression but in the long run made it even worse. There are many alcoholics who have been in recovery for years who still take anti-depressants because they have this disease/chemical imbalance called depression. So I want you to know that I hear you and completely understand that what you were experiencing was not just a "normal low" it was much more than that.

I think that the discussion on learning to cope with the lows in life without alcohol is a valid one and I am one of the folks who is learning to do that since I started drinking at such an early age. What IJM is talking about is different and I for one would not want him to come away with the impression that we are saying that he just has to learn to cope better (i.e., go off of the meds) because that may not be the case. I don't think that this was the intention; I think the discussion turned to a slightly different topic.

:yeahthat:
I think that many fall into the trap of thinking (when they feel better) that they no longer need the meds and quit taking them. While not taking meds may be a reality at some point, I think you are wise IJM, to keep that possibility in mind while exercising (literally) means that enhance your own natural resources that are know help counter the depression. I am one to try nothing short of voodoo before stepping into the AMA arena, but I took ADs at several different times when it was warranted. Taking them at the appropritate times most certainly helped me to restrict AL self-medication.