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**kuya** · October 16, 2012, 05:27 AM

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Morning Affers,

Nice day here Mick, bit cold at 19 degrees! :H bite me! Good day today, getting lots of positive feedback ATM from clients and colleagues which is nice.
Had a great day with the kids work and home wise too .... So all in all nothing to complain about.

Lilly ...... Don't be a dope! So what if the saddle keeps slipping at the moment. I don't think it is healthy for anyone to be blind to these dangers. I know when I quit last year I so wish I knew how slippery that slope was, and the 8 months it took to get straight again would have been a lot shorter if I had been here. And there is nothing to say itbwon't be me next, life's a bitch and none of us knows what's around the corner.

Basically please keep posting here, I KNOW everyone here loves your stories, Al related or not. The intention is to abstain, the reality is to be human, I think. Being, or thinking we were superhuman is what got us into this mess, isn't it?

Drained of words now, have a great day y'all

KY

**porqoui** · October 16, 2012, 06:40 AM

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Morning KY and Mick thanks for kicking us off and for the coffee. You got to admit that walking home in the rain sober is going to be a lot easier than the other option. Hope the pocket book doesn't hurt too much afterwards.

KY the medics are on their way.....can't have you drained of words......there'd be so much dead air here. :H

Didn't need an extra P yesterday, seems things are getting sorted, so sending it your way Lilly. You can post anywhere you want to, we'll find you, but I personally feel safe posting here. I'm sorry that you're struggling right now but so glad you're being open and honest about where you're at. You don't know how much your post yesterday meant to me personally.

Morning BAFA....yup I still like that. Onto Day 2 for you and I see you were out visiting last night. Good for you getting right back into the game. Here's wishing you a peaceful day and since I have extra's here's a "P" for you too.

Off to get my first cuppa....since when did posting take priority over caffine???

Have a great AF Tuesday all and all to come......

PPQ

**Lavande** · October 16, 2012, 07:01 AM

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Good morning Abbers!

Lots of sunshine & fairly mild temps predicted for today - nice

I am focusing on work stuff this morning while waiting for my daughter & grandaughter to arrive for an afternoon visit. The coffee is fabulous Mick, think I'll have a second.

Greetings PQ, Kuya & everyone to come by today. Make it a great tuesday

Lav

**BlondeAFAmbition** · October 16, 2012, 08:20 AM

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Hiya Tuesday Abbers!

Sun coming out here in New England...gonna be a bright and beautiful...SOBER day! Ok, I am being a bad girl and playing hookie from work...I was sick yesterday (had to go home due to a hangover) and so work thinks I am sick with a bug. I am feeling OK but need a day to myself after my decision of getting sober and this is day 2 so sorta a gift to me for starting the journey. So far so good! Plan to get some fresh air and keep myself well hydrated and fed. Thanks for the Coffee, Mick...nice to meet you.

Anyone ever here from Shoe? SHe used to be our thread starter last time I was active on here...I hope she is well. Now Mick has taken on the role of thread starter...thank you for your inspiring words! The coffee is damn good BTW...strong, just how I like it. Mmmmm, coffee tastes so much better when sober!

Enjoy your day everyone...will check back later. Back to work tomorrow but today is mine

**YoungAtHeart** · October 16, 2012, 09:38 AM

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Hey All! Sorry I've been MIA for a few days--at least it wasn't because I fell off the wagon. Just busy with life and actually doing some cleaning for a change.

Thanks for starting the thread this morning Mick. I hope you car doesn't cost too much and you don't get too wet on the way home.

Blondie, welcome back. I hope your ABs journey is enhanced by being here.

Lilly, I second KY's sentiments. I'd rather you keep posting. It is so easy to get lost again, and your post yesterday helped me to stay out of denial about my own drinking. I can feel your discouragement, so I'm sending hugs.

Kuya, I hope you don't stay drained of words for too long!

PPQ, thanks for being so generous with your P's. Goodness knows that we all need them at times.

Good morning, Lavande. I hope your work and your visit goes well today. Have a good one!

I'm excited, as I have finally lost 12 lbs. I was kinda stuck there at 10 lbs for a week or so. Last time I was sober, the weight just fell off without my trying. Five years later, I have to work a little harder at it, but in a way, I'm glad. I need to be more active, given that I have such a sedentary job. After I finish this post, I want to saute some veggies for a fritata and also roast some veggies to eat with meals this week. Ah, healthy me!

So have a good day all, and hi to all to come!

Hugs,
:l
YahYah

**Mick** · October 16, 2012, 10:44 AM

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YAH .well done on the weight drop :goodjob:

**Turnagain** · October 16, 2012, 11:08 AM

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Greetings FABbrrrrrrrrrs. BRRRRRRR because it is so darn cold already up here. I mean REALLY cold. And I still have a few more days of outside work to do. Wah. Okay...my whining is over.

Blondie....I read about your upcoming vacay over on the other thread. I did my first sober cruise this past year - in the Bahamas, at that - and it made me feel so good. You sound like you have a really good plan in place. I made a plan too and also used a lot of visualization to get me through situations that I thought would be extra challenging. For example, I saw myself really savoring the sail away sunsets from my balcony with a sparkling seltzer and lime in hand... it really worked! I also REFUSED to let myself miss having an alcoholic drink. I ended up having so much fun and it was dramatically less stressful than other cruises where I was always amping about finding ways to get enough to drink - a task that was daunting! The neat thing is....every time we create NEW positive associations to replace the old drinking ones...we actively rewire the brain to ENJOY AF living - the REAL normal. It is a wonderful way to live.

LillyE....I'm glad you're here even if you're feeling ambivalent. We can take that...but we can't take losing you. Really. Addiction is tough. Maybe the toughest thing most of us will ever have to deal with in our lives. It actually does comes down to life or death. Can you tell us more about what's going on right now? Sometimes just holding situations out at arm's length - so to speak - can help us see them more clearly. Not that addiction has much to do with logic. It's a midbrain malfunction. Overcoming addiction has a lot to do with letting our forebrain override the compulsions that seem so overwhelming. I'm willing to help you take this apart piece by piece to see what's up so we can get you back on the track of LIVING instead of dying from alcohol addiction.

Here is something quite brilliant that Kuya recently wrote to someone in the Newbie's Nest about missing the feeling from drinking:

kuya;1392975 wrote:

I am going to pull you on this for a moment. Right now, for an alcohol dependant , ONLY alcohol feels like alcohol.
Get your mind round this....... This is VERY important. Alcohol DOES NOT feel great, it just takes away the CRAVING for alcohol. Ethanol, a liquid suitable for running engines,not bodies, has been running your body. Many chemicals and enzymes in your body have changed to accommodate this abnormal fuel

After time your body adapts to running on the wrong fuel. You have literally succeeded in turning your body into a food/alcohol hybrid! When you stop putting alcohol in the tank, your body is confused, stutters and doesn't run well for a while. This is what we call withdrawal. The 'pleasure' of alcohol is because it attaches to GABA receptors.

At the moment NOTHING replaces alcohol. Glucose mimics it, sugar helps short term but accept that, for a while, your amazing body is having to convert back to running only on food ....... Like a normal mammal.

Try to patiently accept that all those bad feelings are actually good feelings. They are your body learning to use only the correct fuel. When you have a terrible day, the next day is always better cos you have made a biochemical leap in repair.

Eat good food,and plenty of it and try to rest. Allow your body to heal.

Wow. No body can heal when it's still being poisoned by ethanol. So...Lilly let's figure this out.

PPPPPS:

Porquoi thanks for the extra P's! Daily grazies to our magical Mick for launching the LOVE! And as always...hugs to the FABbrrrrrrrs near and far.

oh - and SHUEsy......check in baby! We're missing you!!!

**Turnagain** · October 16, 2012, 11:16 AM

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Greetings FABbrrrrrrrrrs. BRRRRRRR because it is so darn cold already up here. I mean REALLY cold. And I still have a few more days of outside work to do. Wah. Okay...my whining is over.

Blondie....I read about your upcoming vacay over on the other thread. I did my first sober cruise this past year - in the Bahamas, at that - and it made me feel so good. You sound like you have a really good plan in place. I made a plan too and also used a lot of visualization to get me through situations that I thought would be extra challenging. For example, I saw myself really savoring the sail away sunsets from my balcony with a sparkling seltzer and lime in hand... it really worked! I also REFUSED to let myself miss having an alcoholic drink. I ended up having so much fun and it was dramatically less stressful than other cruises where I was always amping about finding ways to get enough to drink - a task that was daunting! The neat thing is....every time we create NEW positive associations to replace the old drinking ones...we actively rewire the brain to ENJOY AF living - the REAL normal. It is a wonderful way to live.

LillyE....I'm glad you're here even if you're feeling ambivalent. We can take that...but we can't take losing you. Really. Addiction is tough. Maybe the toughest thing most of us will ever have to deal with in our lives. It actually does comes down to life or death. Can you tell us more about what's going on right now? Sometimes just holding situations out at arm's length - so to speak - can help us see them more clearly. Not that addiction has much to do with logic. It's a midbrain malfunction. Overcoming addiction has a lot to do with letting our forebrain override the compulsions that seem so overwhelming. I'm willing to help you take this apart piece by piece to see what's up so we can get you back on the track of LIVING instead of dying from alcohol addiction.

Here is something quite brilliant that Kuya recently wrote to someone in the Newbie's Nest about missing the feeling from drinking:

kuya;1392975 wrote:

I am going to pull you on this for a moment. Right now, for an alcohol dependant , ONLY alcohol feels like alcohol.
Get your mind round this....... This is VERY important. Alcohol DOES NOT feel great, it just takes away the CRAVING for alcohol. Ethanol, a liquid suitable for running engines,not bodies, has been running your body. Many chemicals and enzymes in your body have changed to accommodate this abnormal fuel

After time your body adapts to running on the wrong fuel. You have literally succeeded in turning your body into a food/alcohol hybrid! When you stop putting alcohol in the tank, your body is confused, stutters and doesn't run well for a while. This is what we call withdrawal. The 'pleasure' of alcohol is because it attaches to GABA receptors.

At the moment NOTHING replaces alcohol. Glucose mimics it, sugar helps short term but accept that, for a while, your amazing body is having to convert back to running only on food ....... Like a normal mammal.

Try to patiently accept that all those bad feelings are actually good feelings. They are your body learning to use only the correct fuel. When you have a terrible day, the next day is always better cos you have made a biochemical leap in repair.

Eat good food,and plenty of it and try to rest. Allow your body to heal.

Wow. No body can heal when it's still being poisoned by ethanol. So...Lilly let's figure this out.

PPPPPS:

Porquoi thanks for the extra P's! Daily grazies to our magical Mick for launching the LOVE! Saint Lav - so lovely your life is getting back to normal. YAH - YEA on the weight loss! Just another great benefit of living La Vida AF......and as always...hugs to the FABbrrrrrrrs near and far.

oh - and SHUEsy...LifeChange...check in FAB-babies! We're missing you!!!

**lifechange** · October 16, 2012, 12:57 PM

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this is the quickest flyby ever!
i haven't had a second to stop and read, but want to keep accountable. will see all you lovely people tomorrow!
xoxo, Life

**ronnie** · October 16, 2012, 06:48 PM

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Morning all
Im back and ready for anything after a lovely holiday with my boys
I hope you have been keeping well, i have not read back so you will have to fill me in on all the gosip.
Teeball season is starting so i am busy coaching ect. So that should now keep me out of trouble as bordom was a big trigger for me.
Right i had better get my boys out of bed and ready for school
Catch you all later
Xxxxxx

**BlondeAFAmbition** · October 16, 2012, 07:07 PM

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Hi gang,

Turn...I remember that cruise you took...I was so happy for you that you succeeded in doing it sober. Funny, sounds like I am going on the same itinerary! You didn't happen to go on Norweigan did you? Anyway, thanks for the sound advice. I'm gonna do my best, and yes, I agree, it will be nice not to have to be on the "hunt" for AL all day on the ship or at dock!

**CanToo** · October 16, 2012, 09:42 PM

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Howdy AF Tuesday.

Hello all the ones I know and hellooo to some new ones.

Still on track and AF but gaol #3 is a little off and therefore have been tired.

Nite nite

**Determinator** · October 16, 2012, 11:37 PM

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heya Ronnie, there you are.

well, tucked into my hotel room after a nice dinner with some calistoga water. yay!

big day tomorrow. be well everyone!

**Determinator** · October 16, 2012, 11:37 PM

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Can too, sounds like a great goal! what is bootcamp in this case?

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