af day Friday 19 Oct

[Mick]

Good morning everybody..yep the bad penny is back!!!! and how are we all today? boy..would love to say I escaped from the aliens in the crop circle but.....in actual fact Ihave had a crap few days and it knocked me down big style..cant say it was all drink related, in fact most of it wasnt though a couple of times it would have been so easy to whack a bottle of Scotch..main thing is that I didnt so here I am.
I would like to say a big thankyou to everyone who asked about me either in their pms or posts..thats why i say it is important to post, because unless you have been there, you will not know that crap feeling, and they cheer you up.
PPQ...you are a star...taking over like that you did a brill job so well done you :wd::wd:

Right business as usual..tea and coffee on the go..

Morning ppq :l..how are you today? you can have a lie in and take it easy..heres a coffee for you

Hiya BAF ..see from your post youre pretty excited about your move..think I might do the same when I reach 40 :H how are you today? Yes you are right..it does become part of your routine

Good morning Lav..and how are you this fine day?no you didnt miss anything..me prhaps? ok ok heres the coffee.How did your busy day go?yes I know ..busy-but did you get it finished or is there more for today?

Bloody hell...even the pengys been looking for me!!! Mornin Satzy..be over into the fridge after bit hank at the mo..hows you doing? ok..how many days now till Oz? If you had of thought bout this years go you could have done it on a ship for a tenner!

Hiya Cantoo.. how are you?Strangely enough the festive season doesnt worry me too much at all.. dont usually drink a lot then..it was just the rest of the year I battered!!And by the way you wont be alone.......

Hi Sausage..how are you? Yes I read your story..see I haven just been sitting on my bum doing heehaw...Can I suggest something? from your post it seems like that you feel you are missing out..basic point ..you tried before and it never worked to have couple of drinks..accept that like most of us round this table now do not have the switch that says time to stop its a given wont happen.Once you have done that, then you can look with a different perspective..ok cant drink al..what can I do instead? but do something..make a drink up ,even try af drinks..some of them are nice, but you need to accept them for what they are...not as a means to get out of your box asap.Better still do something different completely.
The other point in your post is you say look at all the famous people that can have a drink and it doesnt bother them..sort of why cant I ?
ok now google famous people that dont drink, and also famous people that used to drink but dont..the latter is really interesting!!Its about brain train.
Sorry for the rambling..hope it helps


Morning KY..here I am back to the land of normality???How is things down there with you? ok I hope

Good morning sunflower...glad your trip was a success Yoga class at 5am???wow now that is early doors training!!

Hi Lills here I am..nope not full of mushrooms..how are you? glad to see you are posting a wee bit more thanks for the thoughts too.So pleased you are back you can do it!! Interesting one that..how to deal with Christmas and New Year..the festive season hmm

New Year..the time when every piss ant in the world makes a bee line for you to tell you how great they are how great they think you are,we dont see each other a lot but..then move on to sort the companies problem out..brief interlude to tell you all their woes, then the bells go every person in the world who you dont know, dont want to know suddenly find this urge to fling literally their arms around you and stick their lips to the side of your head!!!So then we get back to sorting the world...greening issues and policies, military strategies immigration, tax, economic growth and decline and resolution...and guess what all this in a language that you can only articulate and understand when you are absolutely shedded!!!...to be continued

Right folksies thats me offski now going to the birds today..weather has been pretty poor recently so hopefully fly a few today..once again thank you for your help...have a great af weekend..big hug to all not here

Mick

[kuya]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Phew Mick, normality returns!

Upset me rhythm for a day or two. No offense to Sausage and PPQ but when you are the right side of the world and you upside down folk start doing things different it does me head in. Bad enough being in the different day half the time without peeps starting threads yesterday instead of this evening and at lunchtime instead of dinner time and it not being Mick or PPQ then Mick not doing it for 2 days then Mick not posting for a day.

IT WAS ALL A BIT MUCH TO BE HONEST !

So enough of these shenanigans can we please return to normal. Thank you

:H:H:H

[Mick]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Kuya..its easy to understand..can do that standing on my head :H:H:H:H

[porqoui]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Morning Mick thanks for the coffee. It always tastes so much better when someone else makes it.....October seems to be a rough month for everyone, including me, so I plan on making a plan for Oct 2013. Got lots of time to tweak it :H Have fun with your feather friends today.

Morning KY we sure don't like change do we? Now if you'll just define "normal" I'll see if I can get there. :H

One more day of nice weather and then snow for the weekend. Of course, the weekend I have to work. Going to try and embrace change for a change.....

Have a great AF Friday you two and all to come.......PPQ

[BlondeAFAmbition]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Morning Glories!

I was up before 5AM today...plotting out some stops along the way for our trip up the coast. Plan to have lunch at a lobster shack just south of Portland, ME. Maine has the best lobster out there for sure! The colder the water, the better the lobster is what they say. As an a native Mainer, I have to agree. Right now, I am living in exhile in Mass...lol, but hope to move back someday. Hubs is game, he is tired of the rat race here in the Boston area. Not that Mass doesn't have its great attributes but there is something so real and honest about Maine that I long to return. Especially now that we are getting older. And property prices are at an all time low too boot. Near the ocean and a decent size house with land. Can't beat that. Anyway, I'll fill you guys in later. Hope the weather is decent although they are predicting rain.

Good to see you back, Mick. I see you are a Scot, living in England. I was born in the US but my grandparents on my mom's side immigrated from the Glasgow area to NYC in the 30's. I have been to England but long to visit the land where my ancesters originated. My mother went a few years ago to Scotland and said it was like nothing else she'd ever seen...so beautiful. Anyway, our family names are Gray and Weir. Nice to see some other Celts on here

Hi PPQ, Kuya, et all. Hope you all have a happy healthy day!

[Lavande]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Good morning Abbers!

Ah ~ nice, Mick is back in the #1 spot
Sorry to hear you've had a rough couple of days, they happen to all of us, huh? It's how we choose to handle those days that really counts!

I have lots & lots of work related stuff to do today after my morning trip to Curves. Busy is good, right?

Greetings Kuya, PQ & Blondie. Wishing everyone a fabulous AF Friday!
Lav

[Kaslo]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Hi everyone, I thought I would check in for a change. Good morning to all you residents of the daily thread of MWO abstinence crew. Mick at the helm. Mick your description of things is the exact opposite of the life of the independant conctracting worker. Been in my office alone most days (or out in the field with my subcontracting crew, each of whome also works independantly in THEir offices) and there is no Christmas cheer, or parties or meetings or chats its all just up the stairs for lunch then back down. I talk on the pbone, or get a courier deliverary, thats about it for human contact. So in some ways I think I would like what you describe, Perhaps you and I could have traded places! I do get to go to meetings (with clients, usually in their offices) and i get invited to clients soirees, or go to conferences, but being an independant worker out of the home has its drawbacks.

Big shout out to Molly, I saw your comments on Allans thread, made sense to me. No one should feel bad about getting pharmaceutical help with cravings in my opinion. I didnt get any, but I probably should have in previous quits, for sure. This ones stuck 19 months.

Hello to the Canucks on here too. I am just over the rocks, and not exactly dreading winter as I like to ski, but I admire the amount of sun you Alta peeps get in winter. Here its pretty overcast most days.

Hi Lav. And all others, esp. Blondie, you are doing so well. Good to see you here again.

I used to post on here every morning, and was often the last one of the northern hemisphere in the morning, because Im on Pacific Standard Time, and Turnagain and Det (also MWOutus pacificus) often don.t post till the evening. I used to wonder if its because I was a threadkiller, but then I thought it was just because of the shape and rotation of the planet.:h

kas

[SAUSAGE]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Hi everyone

Quick check in from me, I'm feeling a lot better now than in these last few days and I really appreciate everyone's comments on the thread I started in General Discussion- I've added a comment on there too.

Good to see you start us off as usual Mick - we were all getting worried!

Hope you had a good trip to Maine today Blonde - let us know how it goes. Hi to Lav, Kuya, Kas, Molly , Porquoi and anyone else following. Thanks again for all your support everyone.

[kuya]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Had a horrible evening, for no particular reason, ate poorly and last night had my first drinking dream. It took me some minutes when I woke up to convince myself that I did not drink. HORRIBLE!


As is Molly, I am also feeling bolshie today and I know why. The elephant in the room is the atheist thread. The irony of that thread is it coincidentally has a few members on THIS thread who enjoyed the discussion, at least until the warring began.

Like it, or hate it the thread IS closed. After it closed a thread opened to PERSONALLY attack me. When I posted any explanation, and even an apology for causing offense, I was derided and belittled ( most hurtfully by one member who has sought my support and advice in PM on a number of occasions). My reaction was to delete all my posts on that thread as it was pointless.

I am now getting very tired of those who have made their feelings known on the matter but continue to seize each and every opportunity to rake it back up. Not by direct discussion but by hurtful digs and innuendo.

On that thread I was accused of sending a nasty PM. This is a LIE! As I explained to Lilly on yesterday's thread a PM can be re-written to say ANYTHING! The accuser REFUSES to discuss this in PM, as I think she knows they can be rewritten. I am sure, however, she not the perpetrator of the lie, but has been lied to herself.

I have been sent PMs from members to support me saying they have stopped posting due to bullying. I have PMs from current members saying they are disgusted with the schoolyard attacks on me, but please don't tell anyone! Sad, but true.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs, I am a recovering alcoholic like everyone else here. I am a survivor of childhood and life every bit as tough as anyone here. I am strong but NOT INDESTRUCTIBLE.

So please........ Let it go now.

[CanToo]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Happy Friday (ok I had the day off so I'm happy).

Busy day running around.

Tomorrow I'll be hiking that trail I did on my bike a while back. Yto the one with the bison :H. I just hope I 'see 'em' coming this time around. Oh man I hope this group has a sense of humour. And then Sunday I'm doing a little 'hike' on our city trails with someone I met at the first hike.

Oh, KY I got my hands on a new supplement. Have you tried Inositol Powder? I also got the L-tryptophane to add to my 5-HTP and melatonin - it made my head tingle, but I still couldn't stay asleep (although I think that's a stress or menopause thing).

Anyhoo - this northern hemisphere woman is happy to be AF this Friday night.

Have a good morning, afternoon or evening everyone.

CT

[CanToo]

af day Friday 19 Oct

KY - are you kidding me? This frickin shite I'd still going on?

[TheSunFlower]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Kuya...I am so sorry you are going through this. Please put it in perspective....this is a message board....where most don't know each other personally. You can feel like you do as we post here a lot.....but, we really don't KNOW each other on a personal basis. Just don't respond and it will go away.

I hear many talking about the upcoming holidays....I really thought I was missing what holiday they were discussing....as so many are on here from overseas (to me). So was there some cool holiday coming up....across the world

I've done them drunk and I have done them sober. I can say that sober was always better (duh!). Sober I had the party planned, everything in order and all the presents wrapped early. Drunk...everything was last minute getting it all to together. It did not matter if it was Halloween, Thanksgiving or Christmas. I loved my sober holidays.

So for me....I am looking forward to doing them again sober. I was not sober last year...so this year...remembering the good sober holidays is reminder....of how I actually had my shit together on sober ones vs. drunk ones.

Work holiday parties all depend on where you work. I have been to the drunken fests.....and I have been to professional parties where you were given one drink ticket. I am looking forward to my work party....as it was the most professionally done that I have ever seen with not centered around drink....but awards given to people.

For me personally....I now live in a world where not drinking is the norm. I was abnormal.

Recently, I had a friend ask me 'to go for a drink"....just to get to know each other better. I accepted. I ordered a "hot tea"....and she said to me...."that sounds perfect"....and we enjoyed our tea.

I know all too well what happens when I drink. Just because someone asks me to go for a drink....doesn't mean it "has" to alcoholic. But, before that was where my brain went.

Somehow....in my world....it is normal for someone to say...."I don't drink".....it does not mean they had an AL problem.....they just know the stuff makes them feel like crap Gosh, why did I not learn that earlier.

I have said this many times....my perception was out of whack....as was my addiction. My perception is changing....I no longer have people in my life who think drinking to excess is fun. I did not remove people....this was the norm....I was abnormal.

3 yoga classes today....and I can't wait to get home!

[TheSunFlower]

af day Friday 19 Oct

And I did want to say....I have the finishing of my huge work project.....but, I am looking forward to getting back to normal routine!

[kuya]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Hi Sun, I know you are right, and appreciated your PM some time ago, but some just won't let it go and I am tired and only human.

CANTOO ... Oddly I was sent inisotol by accident by biorecovery when I ordered GABA.

I will try some now, it's supposed to work on irritability so maybe I will take a double dose! :H

[hulagirl]

af day Friday 19 Oct

Aloha All! All week I just couldn't wait 'till Friday. Avoided stopping by the store on the way home from work because I just had those wine/beer thoughts. I sold a bike today ($80.00) and said to Hubby "Let's go out and blow all this cash!" We had discussed going to a local restuarant/bar where a band was playing that I like to hear a couple times a year--blues/rock. I know, being honest with myself, that I had every intention of drinking. Hubby went off to lay down at 8:00 and I knew then that it wasn't going to be a night out. I even entertained the idea of going by myself. yeah. right. So, here I am. A sober Friday night. What a relief. Good to see all of you here.