af day Sat 20 Oct

[Mick]

Good morning/afters/evening to all everywhere..welcome to Saturday,and how are we all doing?Got back from picking someone up at 2.30 this morning from the airport..dont you just love it seeing everyone getting off the plane and coming through customs still dressed as if they were still jotting around on some hot sunny beach in warmer climes rather than at Manchester airport in the pouring rain at some mad time of the morning??...........he says jealously!!

Anyway on with the show...yep before I forget, I am out early tomorrow..tis Sunday my day of whatever I will see if I can get the thread going before I go...

tea and coffee on the go just now..no sideline carbs though, so far I have dropped 4lbs this week, so got to keep at it

Morning KY .its me..the thread starter..the same one as yesterday, but not the same one as the day before, but bearing in mind the time diff this morning thread that you are reading this aft is written by the same person as 3 and a half days ago, but not the same one as 2 and a half days ago.............confused.com :H As far s the personal attacks go..appreciate it is quite easy for someone to sit and type crap and then ping it off into the big blue yonder as opposed to saying it to your face-there is no physical way you can get back at them,so I know it is difficult but the bottom line is to assess their impact on your life..do they affect you and yours..do they have a physical bearing on your well being..can they help you in achieving your goal ?No... then why bother with them tell them to go away in short sharp jerky movements!!

morning PPQ...and how is your weekend of change?tell me ..what does that involve?is it a physical change or mental approach or strategy?ok here is a cuppa before you answer that one!Well did the snow come?are you snowbound or just wee flakes?Even though you are working have a good time ..oh and dont work too hard!!

Top o the mornin Molls..hows things over there in the green valleys of Erin?More to the point hows you...calm serene and peaceful as per norm I presume :H what you up to today?As for being bolsie..dont belive that for one minute..Mrs Stalin

morning BAFA, how are you today?.....wow that sounds absolutely brill..living by the sea..one of my dreams, hope it goes well for you!! Huh ,at least the rain you get is warm!!So your ancestors came from Jockland?tell you we can get where water cant !!
Yes it is a lovely place..though last time I was there I wasnt so keen got nicked for speeding!!

Morning Lav..how are you today ma'am? cuppa coming up for you..Well is it a lazy weekend for you or worktime?..whatever it is enjoy.

good morning Kas..nice to see you..wow talk about siloed working!! thats some set up Appreciate sometimes we like to be on our own..though not so sure I would want to that extent!!What are yo up to this weekend? Kas stuff or work?

Morning sausage..how are you? glad you are feeling better and more positive,and thanks for the thoughts..speaking of which..every time I see your name takes me back to when I was a wean back home? remember the sausage song?...
I had a sausage ,
a bonny heelan sausage and a put in the oven for me tea
Ah went oot intae the lobby,
Tae meet ma Uncle Bobby
And the sausage ran after me..

My ma used to sing that to me when I was but a mere kid...........ok,ok i was 27 :H:H
No Im not on drugs!!!..mad ?perhaps!!

Hiya Cantoo..how are you ?Did you enjoy your Friday"off"..Best of luck on the trail of the lonesome pine..dont drop yourself in the s...!!

morning SF..how are you?Yep pretty sure we have all done the drunk parties..and indeed the getting ready for them..the quick swigs from the bottle as you were getting ready..then a few more!!
D o you know its sometimes the simple things about not drinking that give you the most satisfaction..fr instance..I was at the airport early doors this morning..Fri night Sat morning..Ididnt have to sit and think..shit cant have a drink tonight and get all moody about it, didnt have to worry that because I had a drink would it show on a breathalyser, didnt have to count back and work out..would I be under,,was I fit to drive..it was almost as if "ok its early Sat morning,I am driving down he motorway on my own..go on stop me!!!"

right boozebusters, time to go..big shout to all not here..Shue Lills et al take care have a great weekend

[lifechange]

af day Sat 20 Oct

good morning, Mick! thanks for the coffee-- delicious. you've lost 4lbs this week! awesome, that is. i'm afraid i made a plan to go low on the carbs and lose weight, then forgot it immediately. so i'm still the same--imagine that. i'm making a new start. tomorrow! i'm off in a few minutes to go to the school to help prepare for our open house today. it's a gorgeous autumn day so it should be a great time. do you have some nice plans this weekend with your 230am visitor? i didn't know flights came in at that hour!

Kuya, i'm sorry about all the nonsense you've been experiencing. i've kept away from any threads that look to be poisonous, so i don't know the details-- but i think Micks advice is pretty good. i really like having you here and hearing what you have to say.!

Sunflower, thanks for writing what you did about the holidays-- great perspective. my holidays are also always better if i'm sober and on top of things. i also have kids birthday parties in nov. and dec., and it's normal here to offer wine/drinks to the parents when they pick up the kids--i've typically started in early on the drinks and there's not a lot worse than being drunk at a 6yr olds bday party!!

hello to Cantoo, Blondie, PPq, Sausage, Lav, Kas, and everyone else!
have a wonderful day and i'll see you all later,
life

[satz123]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Morning all. Lovely day here in Ireland for a change:goodjob:

[porqoui]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Morning Molly, LifeChange, Satz and Mick thanks for the coffee....
My embracing change involves all three starting with getting active. Going to re-read CanToo's 30 days of movement and get some ideas from there. Going to quit worrying about what I can't do and concentrate on what I can.
No snow yet but the rain is making a lot of noise on the windows. Should all be frozen just as I have to leave for work. At least the sun will be shinning....
Molly I got the 2 am phone call and my son was way down south of me, took me 1 1/2 hrs just to find him and his 5 other mates. Not hard to find, they were parked beside the RCMP cruiser :H
Hi Life hope the open house goes good. My first one in September went off without a hitch so passing the positive onto you.
Hi Satz I really believe weather plays a big role in our emotional world. One reason I'll never leave Alberta is because of all the sun.
Lilly great minds think alike. I was going to ask Mick if he still had the "water off a ducks back" avatar and get him to send it to KY. You're sounding really good, glad you're here.
CanToo if it's not 40 below we could meet half way and spend some of that alone time not alone...there's a thought as you're not really that far away.
KY been thinking of you all night. :l:l for you. You'll feel better when Mick gets that avatar to you. Hang in there and remember to keep the important things front and foremost...ie AF living.
All from me for now...finishing prep work for the meeting...have a great AF Saturday all and all to come.....PPQ

[Lavande]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Good morning Abbers,

The sun has arrived after some huge storms last evening, yay!
Thanks for the coffee Mick! Congrats on the weight loss - good for you!

I am doing my best to keep my cool since yesterday's meltdown of the hard drive in my computer that runs my embroidery machines. I am effectively out of business at the moment & know that this is going to be one expensive problem to resolve
I guess I'll spend the weekend washing windows or doing any of the hundred odd & end jobs that need my attention around here.

Kuya, I have to admit that I do not know anything about threads or posts where people have been insensitive to you. I'm sorry you have experienced that. We all come here for information, advice & support not bullshit. I hope you can ignore all that & continue on your AF journey with us

Greetings PQ, Satz, Molly & Lifechange. Wishing everyone a great AF Saturday!
Lav

[YoungAtHeart]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Morning all! Or afternoon, evening, what have you!

Lav, I was thinking of you last night. All those big storms missed us here in central Maryland, but I saw a but of nasty storms on the radar near you. Sorry about your embroidery computer. That sounds like a master pain in the butt!

Mick, I'm glad you're sounding a little more back to yourself this morning! Off again on a mystery jaunt tomorrow, eh? Well, we'll just have to keep guessing what you're really doing on those mornings. Some day we will figure it out!

KY, sorry that you've been attacked on your thread and in PM's. It really sucks to have that kind of nastiness thrown your way. I can only say that there are many here who aren't in the best mental shape drinking or sober, and I prefer to let them be and stay away. I don't know why people feel it is okay to beat each other up about their religious beliefs. Hang around here, where you are appreciated.

Hi Molly! I'm with you on that lady. Some people sorta like having a drunk partner; they get to feel so righteous! Then when that partner stops drinking, they have to find something else to pick on.

Shout out to Lifechange, CanToo, Blondie, PPQ, Kas, and everyone else!

I'm glad you are starting to feel better, Sausage.

Today is Farm Day in my county. I will go to a few farms and get to see their products, pet a few sheep and goats, and feed some chickens, etc. It will be fun. Unfortunately, the two people I know best aren't opening their farms to the public today. Oh well. I will meet some new people, and it will be fun. Then off to ballroom dancing tonight.

Take care, everyone!

Hugs,
YahYah

[kuya]

af day Sat 20 Oct

First of all .....apologies for the meltdown. I had reached the end of my tether. It's just my way to say what I mean up front, and even though there will sometimes be misunderstandings, if the intention is honorable that is the best you can do.

AND I have an overdeveloped dislike of lying, so being falsely accused does my head in!

At least this has given me a good idea who is trustworthy and who is not. Nuff said. Meltdown over. Normal lunacy will resume forthwith.

On the upside I have just come back from a party hosted by my son's new landlord. The booze was flowing, the music was pumping, I danced, was flirted with and had an awesome sober time. When offered alcohol i was proud to say ' no thanks, I have quit drinking'. No one thought anything of it and just fetched me a soft drink. Just home and feeling better for the whole experience. But boy, drunk people get tedious! ( of course I was NEVER like that :H)

KY, the no longer bolshie

[Lavande]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Awesome Kuya
It really does bolster your confidence when you sail thru a booze fest unharmed!
I'm with you on the lying thing! I find lying extremely offensive, I highly value the truth. That is the primary reason why my husband is no longer in residence :H

YahYah, if you want to drive up & over here my chickens just love company - especially if you show up with leftovers :H
Hop eyou enjoy your day & evening too!

[porqoui]

af day Sat 20 Oct

KY....:goodjob: on both the AF party and the "no longer bolshie"....

I have never used the online dictionary as much as I do here! :H

Greetings Lav and YahYah....

Have a good one....PPQ

[Kaslo]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Good morning Mick, and thanks for the welcome in your thread. Your sausage rhyme took me back, my mother never sang that one, but lots of other scots nursery rhymes. Got a laugh out of that.

Kuya I missed the thread you are talking about but I connected with your mentioning irritability. I was very surprised when I became irrationally irritable in the first year following quitting, and I still have flashes of bad temper. I sometimes think that is what we see in people here, and its right of Mick to say its easy to write these things, but I dont think its so easy to ignore it. I started looking for the causes of irritability in recovering alcoholics, and I found lots of references to hypoglycemia in ALs and recovering ALs. It can lead to relapse apparently. Sugar and other simple carbs, corn based diets etc feed the craving thing, and its the sugar deficiency that causes the irritability. Anyway, here is a link I found interesting.

An Alternative Alcoholism Treatment - Diet and Nutrition

Its especially disheartening to learn (on this site and in other reading on recovery) that fewer than 4% actually make it past 4 years. That more than half are right back in it again, and the author of this website here feels that the answer is in a nutritional shift. I learned about this when I was in biochemistry of nutrition about a million years ago. Did I pay attention to my Biochem prof, who was himself an alcoholic by his own admission, nooooo. Live and learn.

by the way the 12 step recovery process mentioned here probably DOES stress nutritional healing, now, does it not?

Anyway good morning again to PPQ, Lav, KY, Life, Satz, Young at Heart, Lilly, Blondie, Mick and Molly and all to come. Let us not forget the main reason we post here I think it to be grateful for another morning of no fecking hangover.

Love to all

kas

[Mick]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Kas...now see what you made me do!! go looking.for them!!
Three craws sat upon a wa !! then theres Coulters candy..Ally ally ally ally bee,sittin on yer mammys knee!!
Right thats enough :H:H:H

[hulagirl]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Good Morning! Thought I'd join you with a cuppa Kona coffee. Well, Kona blend. I am trying to survive on the lowest teacher's salary in the most expensive place on the planet. A beautiful Saturday and after a "real" breakfast, hubs and I will load up the bikes and go for a ride. I'll plan (or not) the rest of the day as it comes..my big day of procrastination.

[Kaslo]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Thanks Mick. Sorry about that. Cant help mesel. I was brought up by an Edinburghan and she had this thing for RLS. This is the one that i remember sort of but had to look up.

Land of Counterpane

When I was sick and lay a-bed,
I had two pillows at my head,
And all my toys beside me lay,
To keep me happy all the day.

And sometimes for an hour or so
I watched my leaden soldiers go,
With different uniforms and drills,
Among the bed-clothes, through the hills;

And sometimes sent my ships in fleets
All up and down among the sheets;
Or brought my trees and houses out,
And planted cities all about.

I was the giant great and still
That sits upon the pillow-hill,
And sees before him, dale and plain,
The pleasant land of counterpane.



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[Kaslo]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Cross post Hulagirl. I have been there a couple of times, it is SO lovely but yes expensive. Miss it, loved it, and would come back in a heartbeat.

kas

[Mick]

af day Sat 20 Oct

Wow well done on that Kas...nearly fell to bo bo s reading it