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**lifechange** · October 22, 2012, 02:37 AM

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good morning Abbers! hiya Mick and thank you so much for the delicious coffee! i'm only having one cup today as i'm finally beginning my health kick.! much needed and i hope the extra energy i've been promised kicks in soon. did you have a nice visit with your mother in law? where does she live normally? we are also having a rainy day after a gorgeous sunny weekend. a perfect day to stay inside and be cozy which is exactly what i plan to do.

Kas, thanks for posting that link the other day re nutrition and alcoholism. i found it super interesting and have researched a bit more. i'm trying some of the suggestions out to see if it helps with cravings-- it makes a lot of sense.
has anyone ever read "seven weeks to sobriety"? or know anything about it?

Turn, great smiley info. i will try it out. i find it sooo difficult to smile when i'm not feeling like it, so it will be a huge challenge. hows your weather holding out? have you been out and about walking/hiking lately?
Cantoo, i can't believe how active you are! i am so envious of the nature you're surrounded by. i love hiking and don't get much of a chance to do it around here. it's a huge effort and quite a lot of travelling to get to a place where it's possible to hike 16km.
keep posting please about what you're up to and i'll live vicariously through your stories.

**lifechange** · October 22, 2012, 02:44 AM

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PPQ, i've also had the blahs on and off for the past i don't even know how long! good for you for getting to that meeting and leaving it all there. sometimes the meetings really help me, too. especially if i don't want to go but force myself to. just getting out and about and having a change of scenery helps, it seems. wishing you a good one today!

Yah, big fat hugs to you:l i'm really sorry to hear that news. it does seem as if we're losing far too many young people. at 18 and 19 a "next" stage of life should just be starting, shouldn't it. i will definately be giving all my loved ones extra hugs today, too.

hello Molly, Satz, welcome Allan!, Det, Lilly, Kuya, Lav!! , Hula, Sausage and Nurdl (i also love the time i now spend af with my kids. i appreciate it so much-- ) wishing you all a wonderful day.
xo, life

**LillyE** · October 22, 2012, 05:00 AM

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Mick, no offense, as I know you always mean well, but telling me I need to move on is not what I need to hear today. Dealing with some crappy stuff, feel very shit as a result, and reckon I'm doing well tonight just to be not drinking, dealing with a busy work scheduling and meeting volunteer commitments too when I mostly just feel like crying. That said - I am going to eat a good dinner, get an early night, get myself to the gym early (before more meetings and etc) and hope tomorrow will be a better day and I will feel more positive again! Hope everyone is well.

**porqoui** · October 22, 2012, 06:24 AM

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Good Morning Mick and thanks for the coffee and the kick off....
What a difference a good nights sleep makes. I feel more energetic than I have for a long time.
We're in hurry up and wait mode still and it's very frustrating but it's not dragging me down.
Taking a bus load of seniors to Banff on Thursday. The heavy snowfall is coming tonight into Tuesday so the roads should be ok by then.

Morning LC I agree sometimes all it takes is a change of scenery and I always feel better after going to a meeting. I saw Kas's link to nutrition and alcoholism and need to go find it again. I think my poor eating habits need a good tweak.

Morning Lilly.....doing well, hell I'd say you're doing GREAT. I have been there in that "all I want to do is cry" space before and it's awful. That's when I had my slip 68 days ago so good job on not bending that elbow. Hope you had a decent sleep as I know it can help. And here's some :l :l for you to start your day.

Off to get cup #2 and cruise around the site for a bit.
Have a great AF Monday all and all to come......

PPQ

**LillyE** · October 22, 2012, 06:39 AM

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Thanks so much Porquoi :l :l back at you.

I'm off to bed folks. Have a good day all

**kuya** · October 22, 2012, 06:53 AM

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Hi ABBERS,

First order of business for me was to PM Molly, I felt so ill Friday I didn't read through everything and only just got that Molly said she weren't posting here cos I vented. Not my intention and I told her i hope she comes back.

Next MICK, the Man U thing was a short lived affair, in my defense my step son was apprenticed there for a short while so I had no choice now, did I ?!
Anyhoos, sore throat now gone, weather today was Okish, had BBQ with the whanau and now am stuffed like a little pinkin.
I don't wanna seem thick, but do we know what MICK does on a Sunday morning yet or not. I pride myself on my investigative skills but I think I may have been sleeping through this one.

Lifechange, 'seven weeks to sobriety' was the first book I read explaining the nutritional side of alcoholism and depression. I honestly can say it saved my life. I started taking the supplements 12 years ago and whilst I was not psychologically ready to quit the supps kept me healthy and functioning. Her book allows you to assess what type of drinker you are and to choose supps accordingly. It was spot on for me.

Yah yah .... Sorry for the sadness you must be feeling. It is so shocking when they are so young. The girlfriend of my sons BF hung herself at 18, the boyfriend popped out to the shop, was gone longer than expected and the death was probably only a cry for help that went wrong. Her two year old found her in the wardrobe and thought she was sleeping

On a more positive note though.........I gave my son and his GF a lift home tonight and he was saying how much impact the ads here have had on him and his friends. There has been a BIG campaign aimed at young people to curb drink driving and he says it is working. This is so good to hear as I was shocked when I first came to NZ how accepted it was at all levels of the society.

Lilly sorry the shite keeps hitting the fan, but hey.... You are staying sober. I know you have said before that you have enough support, but anytime OK.

PPQ..... Just saw you, Hi to you too. Hope the snow is not too deep. I can't handle cold so I do not envy you the winters. Like most Canadians I encounter though!

Hi to DET,CANTOO, Ronnie, LAV, Satz,Kaslo, Nurdl, AllanK.........and hopefully Molly .......and where the feck is Shue and Hula for goodness sake!?

KY

**Lavande** · October 22, 2012, 07:05 AM

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Good morning Abbers,

Sunny & relatively mild here in these parts

Time for one more cip of coffee then off I go to the dentist - lucky me....

Greetings Mick, lifechange, PQ, Lilley & Kuya.
I hope you are feeling better Lilley, depression is a bitch. It's what got me started drinking & kept me drinking for way too long. I lost my desire to drink when I finally kicked the depression

Have a great AF Monday everyone!
Lav

**ronnie** · October 22, 2012, 08:16 AM

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Evening all
Wow it feels great to be relaxing on my sofa & posting hear, mind you at the moment the only night i am not doing anything is Mondays so i am making the most of it as its all go again after tonight xx
Lilly hope you are feeling a bit better, i know the feeling also about just curling up in a ball & crying your eyes out :l:l:h:l:l
Mick thanks for the welcome honey xx
Cantoo lets have one of your wonderful quotes xxxx they always seem to lift my spirits xx
Well i hope you are all having a great night/day xxx

**satz123** · October 22, 2012, 08:19 AM

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Late check -in folks !
Lilly hope you feel better soon !
Have a :l

**CanToo** · October 22, 2012, 09:51 AM

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Sorry for the quick fly by just wanted to post some photos from Saturday's hike (at work)

http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/phot...170970992.jpeg

http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/phot...170975972.jpeg

CT

**CanToo** · October 22, 2012, 10:03 AM

af day Monday 22 Oct

Ronnie, I hope this one makes sense today. It resonated with me this morning.
Learn from the past, set vivid, detailed goals for the future, and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control: now.
~ Denis Waitley

Lilly
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
~ Dalai Lama

**lifechange** · October 22, 2012, 10:26 AM

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hello agein lovelies!!
Cantoo, you lucky doggie! i remember when we lived in alaska, seeing all the beautiful, albeit sometimes very dangerous! moose. i love them. actually i love all animals with their sweet, individual characters. i have to remind myself of that sometimes when i wake up in the morning and the cats have dragged everything out of the cupboards and garbage!!

nice to see you all here and i hope everyone continues to have a great day.
i am so looking forward to having thurs and fri this week completely free. come hell or high water, i won't do anything i don't want to do.! we'll see!!

big hugs,:l life

**allankay** · October 22, 2012, 10:37 AM

af day Monday 22 Oct

Hello everyone!

CanToo, I like the pic of a Mouse. I don’t see any animals on my hikes that are bigger than a pigeon.

I also like that you are trying to incorporate Paleo into your plan. I am trying it out ATM. However, I add Greek yogurt and oats with milk for breakfast. It helps me to stay strong and focused, and reduce my BF at the same time.

Kuya, if you need to vent and talk to someone, you can always PM me. I like that you speak your mind.

ALLAN

**Quest for the key** · October 22, 2012, 10:43 AM

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Afternoon all !!

Just thought I'd drop by, see how you're all diddling.

Allan - how come you've flown the nest ? You were a major contributor there !! But nice to see you :-)

Drop by the Army thread - we have a great larffffff :-)

Hope you're all well - day 3 for me but can't wait to get home, put pj's on and have me tea - roll on day 4. (Haven't made day 4 since last pregnancy 7 years ago, so bring it on !!!)

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