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    af day wed 14 Nov

    Good morning all...well how are we today?another fine day in good ole Britain..not raining ,the sun coming up slowly...well very slowly actually..its pitch black outside!!

    Tea and coffee on the go.
    At the dentists later on today.. deep joy!Oh and there is a hance that I might not be here early doors tomorrow..but I wont know till later on today ..so will let you know

    Mornin KY..how are you today?..noticed you spending lot of time on another unnamed thread!!:H obviously for research purposes!! no more Chrimbo jokes just now


    Morning Lav..how are you? motivation found and working?No kid watching yesterday..did you do anything nice?Here you go ..one large coffee

    Good morning Nurdl..wow that tea sounds nice......what I ve found tho is a lot of them smell better than they actually taste.Certainly will look out for that one .One of my faves is hibiscus tea,,got that in Egypt tho guess it will be a while before I go back because of all the hassle.
    Yes I will take some pics and we can compare...see whose closest to the mark!

    Morning ppq.......well well superstar ..havent you come out of your shell??What with cuffing co-workers and comments like
    "If you make yourself a target people WILL shoot at you" now was that directed at X-Large Knob man
    I almost blushed!!! not!How you doing today? any plans?

    Morning SL...wow sounds like you are getting your life back...brilliant! :wd:When you think about it, is it really worth not finding or missing all that just for a shit drink? Methinks not

    Yo Molls ..yuo ok? already posted to you on General..yep Ill let you know what its like...got some Euros yesterday..just some emergency ones ..get the rest over there ?153=175 euros ...dont know what your rate is
    Mornin treetops..you ok? well done on your 5 weeks... thats great Stick at it :goodjob:

    Mornin Det how are you ?..bit of a job difference there mate ..Toys r us..to weapons...hmm be interesting to combine the two!!!Hope your overnighter goes ok

    Hi Cat how are you?apart from being cheesed off about the date...you never know,you might have got it all wrong and he will come back.Main thing is still no boose so a big well done hug to you

    Cantoo,how many other people do you think are playing that very same tape?Cmere for a group hug..be yourself..as long as you enjoy yourself what does it matter..Life isnt a rehearsal..when you shut those curtains..not only are you shutting the world out...but you are also stopping them in sharing what you have got to offer..and dont say nowt!!! This Chrimbo is whole new experience....af so you can enjoy it
    Nuff said.. you know where I am..well till Monday at least!


    Well tis that time..so take care all and have a great day.

    Two mice live in a movie studio warehouse and are looking for food. Suddenly one hears the other chewing.

    "What did you find?" he asks.

    "I am not sure," comes the answer. "It looks like a piece of film celluloid from an old movie. Let me see... Ah, yes. It is from 'Gone with the Wind'".

    "And how is it?"

    "No too good. The book was better."

    "I can't find a cause for your illness," the doctor said. "Frankly, I think it's due to drinking." "In that case," replied his blonde patient, "I'll come back when you are sober." ...

    Little Johnny catches his parents going at it. He yells in, "Hey,
    Pop! What are you doin'?"
    His father says, "Son, I'm filling your mother's tank."
    Johnny says, "Oh, yeah? Well, you better get a model that
    gets better mileage. The postman filled her this morning."

    A man walks into a pharmacy, buys a condom, then walks out of the store
    laughing hysterically. The pharmacist thinks this is weird, but, hey, there's
    no law preventing weird people from buying condoms. Maybe it's a good thing.

    The next day, the man comes back to the store, purchases another condom, and
    once again he leaves the store laughing wildly. This piques the interest of
    the pharmacist. What's so funny about buying a rubber, anyway?

    So he tells his clerk, "If this guy ever comes back, I want you to follow him
    to see where he goes."

    Sure enough, the next day the laugher is back. He buys the condom, starts
    cracking up, then leaves. The pharmacist tells his clerk to go follow the
    guy.

    About an hour later, the clerk comes back to the store.
    "Did you follow him? Where did he go?" asks the pharmacist.
    The clerk replies "Your house."

    An old man walking along the river bank suddenly spotted a boy drowning in the river. The man started shouting "HELP! HELP! I can't swim", a man passing by the road shouted back "Will you ever grow up! I also can't ride a bicycle but you'll never hear me yelling about it in the street"

    man and a woman started to have sex in the middle of a dark forest. After about 15 minutes of it, the man finally gets up and says, "Damn, I wish I had a flashlight!". The woman says, "Me too, you've been eating grass for the past ten minutes!"

    An ice cream seller was today found on the floor of his van covered in hundreds and thousands. Police said he topped himself.

    ?I play all my Country and Western music backwards ? your lover returns, your dog comes back and you cease to be an alcoholic.?

    Two peanuts were walking through a rough neighbourhood and one of them was a salted.

    A patient went to see the psychiatrist wearing only Clingfilm for shorts. The psychiatrist said: ?Well, I can clearly see your nuts?.

    chinese man rings boss ?me no work I sick? boss says ?when im sick I f*ck my wife try that? 2 hours later chinese man rings back ?me better, you got nice house


    What?s green and smells like yellow paint?

    Green Paint
    af since the fourth of July 2012...howzat then America..now proudly marching into year 12

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    af day wed 14 Nov

    Mick .......you are the master and I bow before your joke telling prowess! :H

    Well yesterday's thread was a longun (NO!....I will NOT!)

    Lilly thanks for the links and info ...... I love the science of recovery, it kinda detaches the ego from the problem and I find it easier 'watching' my recovery rather than wondering what is happening. And people with long term recovery tend to forget what happened and when so nice to see it journaled.
    The change in NZ re alcohol is a backlash to how bad it was. Also the Maori party is really pushing as abuse affects Maori disproportionately for obvious reasons. And I think it rides on the back of the changed attitude to smoking. All a good thing IMO. The OZ drinking culture is renowned and I don't envy you trying to be AF there.

    CAT.....firstly I am going to be a real killjoy. You are WAY too early in recovery to be dating seriously, you are only just finding out who you are again, and are extremely vulnerable to abuse and your date cannot see who you are going to become sober. And what is your rush anyway? Your kids are only just getting you back and you are thinking of disappearing again(emotionally that is)..........not good for them or your relationship with them.

    Only my opinion but as a single mum myself I would suggest that IF you date, you ONLY date to enjoy yourself.
    Don't contact this man, if he is interested he will contact you. This is not me being old fashioned, this is my understanding of men (sorry fellas). If you contact him he will pick up that you are desperate, shag you and because you are feeling needy it will probably end badly(and threaten your sobriety).
    If you are horny.....get a vibrator! :H

    Cantoo.......sorry I missed you, checked in late tonight. Will PM tomorrow

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      #3
      af day wed 14 Nov

      Not out early doors tomorrow...so business as usual !!!
      af since the fourth of July 2012...howzat then America..now proudly marching into year 12

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        #4
        af day wed 14 Nov

        Mick;1411020 wrote: What????????? is that your opinion of men..This is not me being old fashioned, this is my understanding of men (sorry fellas). If you contact him he will pick up that you are desperate, shag you and because you are feeling needy it will probably end badly(and threaten your sobriety). :H:H:H
        After a first date ......yeah. Wanna put it to a poll, or have men changed since I was dating?

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          #5
          af day wed 14 Nov

          Good morning Mick!

          8 am here, the sun is out ~ nice
          Where is everyone today??

          I'm heading out in a moment to get my long day started, lots of things to do including kid watching today. Yes, I did find my mojo yesterday, thank goodness :H

          Wishing everyone a great AF Wednesday!!!
          Lav
          AF since 03/26/09
          NF since 05/19/09
          Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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            #6
            af day wed 14 Nov

            Morning Mick thanks for the coffee and the kickoff....

            You piss someone off? Nobody talking to you this morning. :H

            This is day 3 of riding on my congrats wave and I don't think I'll get off for awhile.

            Lilly...morning and I've heard the 3 month theory before. It applies to more than just addictions, even a bad habit you're trying to change. Sadly it didn't work when I tried quitting the cigs.

            CB...:l's for you. I like RC's response to Lilly's post...maybe he is beating himself up for not asking. Personal I vote not to text him but that's just MHO.

            CanToo, Det...morning and I'm in the same boat as you two. I spend most of Chrimbo alone and hope nobody asks what my plans are. And then there's Mick wanting "Chrimbo Morning Pics" uuggghhh...still making a plan for that one.

            Boss away again today. I'm preparping for the Annual Christmas Craft Sale on Fri/Sat so should be a good day. Afternoon sees me back at the lawyers for hopefully the last Affidavit Change signing. Next step is serving papers and going to trial. I'm actually looking forward to it. Want an outcome one way or the other.

            Off to get my cuppa, have a great AF Wednesday all and all to come.....PPQ

            xpost: :hiya: Lav...have a great day.

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              #7
              af day wed 14 Nov

              Hello, fab abbies!

              Thanks for the coffee, Mick. Your jokes continue to make me giggle.

              Lilly, thanks for the congrats. You are sweet. I hope you succeed in finding your motivation, but I think that you are maybe being a little hard on yourself. It takes a lot of work just to stay AF, especially in the beginning. My experience is that it takes everything out of me for the first couple of months, even when I'm not conciously thinking about it. So be easy on yourself, girl!

              Cat, the dating scene can be a psychological hurdle for many of us. Men can seem awfully inscrutable, but if a guy likes you, you can usually tell. My advice is don't text him. If he likes you, he will get back in touch. Your job is to love yourself and take care of yourself the best you can. Hang in there, sweetie!

              PPQ, I'm glad you will have a quiet/fun day at work today. I hope things go well at the lawyer's. Fingers crossed for you.

              Hey Lav, we know you will have plenty of action on Christmas with your grandkids! How do you like this latest cold snap? I feel seduced and abandoned after the lovely warm weekend, now, it is clearly fall again. Ugh.

              Hey Deter, Cantoo, SF, SL and everyone. Have a good day!

              Does any one hate the end of Daylight Savings Time as much as I do? It sucks. Every night as the sun goes down, I am shocked all over again about how early it is. Oh well, like everything else, it will change eventually.

              FYI, for those who will be alone on Christmas, AA usually has a place where there will be meetings all day and a Christmas dinner. I went to a Thanksgivingathon last year and had a great time. You don't have to be an AA devotee to go, either. If you just want a little company, you can go for however briefly or as long as you want. Definitely no AL temptations, either.

              All for now.

              Hugs to all!
              :l
              YahYah
              AF as of August 5th, 2012

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                #8
                af day wed 14 Nov

                Morning all - or whatever time of day it is with you fabulous abbers!
                Quick check in here before the days meetings start.
                No sleep again last night. KY - I used calms forte a lot when I started and again a few months ago with good effect, and still taking them - they keep me settled at night, but no longer help the sleep. I take Benadryl occasionally when I just have to sleep (a habit form night shift and trying tosleep in the day) - it does work, but I don't really like teh way I feel in teh morning. I take magnesium which seemed to help initially, but also does not seem to be having an effect any more - I am open to any and all advice. I am resting in bed, not tossing and truning or getting agitated, but just dislike seeing the hours every hour in the dark! (maybe I should not have read the top thread from yesterday before going to bed :H)
                Well, I have to get to 90 days before my memory kicks back in huh??
                Cat, sorry for your let down, but if I maybe so bold at least you had a date - it has been a very very long time and I am scared to death to go on that route, but would love some comapny - and I understand your predicament - mother of 2, weird custody (looks like I have them full time now with no spousal support!) and working full time - no time for dating even if the opportunity arose - I worry about the future, maybe I will have to start liking cats for when I am a lonely old lady???
                Ok, off back to the grind stone...
                “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                  #9
                  af day wed 14 Nov

                  found this and it almost covers my journey to be AF...
                  the desire of peace away from AL and to be free......

                  THE PEACE OF WILD THINGS
                  by Wendell Berry

                  When despair for the world grows
                  in me
                  and I wake in the night at the least
                  sound
                  in fear of what my life and my
                  children's lives may be,
                  I go and lie down where the
                  wood drake
                  rests in his beauty on the water,
                  and the great heron feeds.
                  I come into the peace of wild things
                  Who do not tax their lives with forethought of grief.
                  I come into the presence of still
                  water. And I feel above me
                  the day-blind stars waiting with
                  their light. For a time I rest
                  in the grace of the world,
                  and I am free.
                  “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                    #10
                    af day wed 14 Nov

                    YoungAtHeart;1411102 wrote:

                    Men can seem awfully inscrutable, but if a guy likes you, you can usually tell.
                    Absolutely, YAH. That's why I was so bummed. No text from me, got the non-commital email this morning.

                    Thank you RC, Mick, Lilly, PPQ for your support. I've been taking a break from relationships "working on my stuff" all year - building friendships, getting my finances in order, getting fit, and dropping AL. I finally feel an interest in meeting men again. I need to remember disappointment is part of the process.

                    Nuff said.

                    Thanksgiving, Christmas here I come. Made plans to spend Christmas with my sister and see my parents and other siblings. Next week I'll have my ex over and make a nice day of it with my son.
                    "It is easier to maintain than to start from the bottom again. I can't go back there." Byrdie

                    AF since Oct 2, 2012

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                      #11
                      af day wed 14 Nov

                      Hi everybody,

                      Early morning check in for me ......wierd.

                      SL ......try trytophan amd melatonin , I have been using them for a year and they work a treat with no fuzziness the next day. If you get them I will advise you how to use them.

                      Cantoo.....we keep missing one another ....will PM.

                      Lilly....the changed attitude to drink here is because it was sooooo bad. Also the Maori party is really pushing the issue cos it affects Maori so badly for obvious reasons. It also rides on the back of anti smoking thinking but is all connected. Tis a good move IMO. The drinking culture is so bad in OZ, it must be hard to stay AF, but I don't need to tell you that!!
                      I am still the only non drinker at parties BUT people drink less and drivers drink minimally and so are relatively safe. When I came here ten years ago I was horrified how many drove drunk.
                      Hi PPQ .....you are a bubbly little thing today

                      Hi Yah..... Your advice to Cat was spot on IMO

                      Hi to LAV and to those to follow and anyone I have missed!

                      KY

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                        #12
                        af day wed 14 Nov

                        Hi all, just a quick evening fly-by to say hi-by. Hope youse all well. Will try to catch up propers tamara.

                        At the Pawsh skool tomorrow marnin.

                        Now for tea and toast. Nighters.

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                          #13
                          af day wed 14 Nov

                          Sober and happy.

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                            #14
                            af day wed 14 Nov

                            Kuya - thank you - do you use them together? I forgot I had melatonin, I got 3mg timed release...maybe I will try that tonight, I got them last year, I think it was Lav who suggested - but sleep was not a problem last time I tried a quit, it was the opposite.
                            “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                              #15
                              af day wed 14 Nov

                              Cat, I was going to say I needed more info to say whether you should text him or not but I LOVE what YahYah said! So let me just post it again for you here - and for myself the next time I'm inevitably in this dilemma.

                              Cat, the dating scene can be a psychological hurdle for many of us. Men can seem awfully inscrutable, but if a guy likes you, you can usually tell. My advice is don't text him. If he likes you, he will get back in touch. Your job is to love yourself and take care of yourself the best you can. Hang in there, sweetie!

                              I'd also say the 'non committal' email the next day isn't fab. But if he was sure he never wanted to see you ever again you probably wouldn't have gotten even that. What did it say?
                              Also, if you ever think you're overanalysing men go to HeTexted. OMFG! You just want to say to some of these women, "Honey, that does NOT bare any further analsis!" Might give you a giggle at least...

                              Don't be too hard on yourself. Dating is hard even at the best of times and there are so many reasons one someone might not be into you that do not mean you did anything wrong or aren't a fabulous person.

                              I've been dating on and off for SIX FREAKING YEARS since my divorce without finding lurve. It sucks. But so it is. Right now we have bigger fish to fry hon. Focus on you. If the guy's keen enough and worth it enough he'll ask you out again. If not, there are other fish in the sea. Easy to say, I know...

                              Today, one of my best friend's husbands said this to me, in an email exchange about birthday gifts for her, which made me smile: "A couple of the great mysteries that I can never fathom is how Simon Cowell remains unmurdered & you remain single." (And no, he'd definitely not flirting with me - just being the kind, funny guy that he is.)

                              It's true Cat, it's not us - those men are all just CRAZY! Don't they realise what they're missing??

                              Hang in there chickie

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