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    af day Wed 13 Feb

    Hi there - thought I better start the day's thread although its heading towards evening here. Much wasted time today with phone calls - including joy of joys - internet providers and call centres.

    I don't have any funny things to say at the moment so here's another bird link. We have some of these lovelies in our garden - called keruru and they nest in our garden and nearby trees. I find it calming to watch birds - never in an organised way - just casually. A delight. They just go about their business - and so on it goes -

    New Zealand wood pigeon/kereru/kuku/kukupa: New Zealand native land birds

    Thx for the vegan recipes Lavande - I will take a look. Hope you have not melted Blondie. I like your name! Having been and still a Blondie fan - in fact last night played some of her old music. I betcha Kuya used to hit the floor with those ones - and a few others lurking around!

    I might be brisk tomorrow morning too - as its hectic with home/work this week. I don't go in for St Valentine's Day :h but if any of you are florists it must be a great day for you.

    Take care and celebrate your Abby-ness - tis the only way for us!
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    af day Wed 13 Feb

    Hi TT and all who will drop in here later

    OH birds from the homeland!!

    All OK here in hot sweaty SE Asia..good for the skin though, when I go back to NZ and Aus my skin dries up the minute I get off the plane

    I'm not sleeping well and have had a low grade headache for a few days.. Strange, I had been moderating before, nowhere near daily alcohol so didn't expect to feel these symptoms when I stopped totally 3 days ago? Kuya? Any idea why?

    Take care all
    Pat

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      af day Wed 13 Feb

      Hi Patrice
      I am still up - I think the low grade headache and sleep problems are very normal. It certainly was what I experienced at first when I stopped the poison. Plus grumpiness.
      But it passed and was nothing like the extremes of drinking.
      One way of also looking at it - is that lots of people get headaches and have sleeping probs. I am not saying thats great or healthy but try to accept it. Don't fight it.

      Drink lots of water - esp as you are in a hot humid climate. I am sure you know that - and I feel silly saying so - but dehydration causes headaches too.
      I didn't realise you had only stopped completely 3 days ago. Be careful and get medical help if things are severe.
      Take care.

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        af day Wed 13 Feb

        MAE Abbers...... See PPQ you should have copyrighted it! :H

        TT.....love the birds too, my house is surrounded by trees and is a little oasis amongst the farmlands. I don't have Kereru but tui and moreporc wax eyes fantails and all kinds of dove. And hawks, which get brought in injured :upset: pukeko ( vicious little buggers :H) kingfishers and the many mynahs and one pair of eastern rosella ( bloody Aussies ! :H)

        Patrice ..... Here is my take on your headache. I think it proves the power of the mind, actually . Before you were moderating, now you have quit, different emotions = headache.

        Does that resonate with you?

        How is everything else going? What was the longest stretch you had.....cos the mind games will start about four days before it I would hazard to guess. PM me if you need :l

        Right orf for a wander .......laters

        KY

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          af day Wed 13 Feb

          TT - I started complete abstinence 3 days ago yes but for the last 4 months I had been moderating up to 14 units a week, never more than 3 units at a time and always 2 AF free days.. as per govt. guidelines ... I don't think I am in withdrawl or anything

          Kuya = I think you are right and it is the mind or could even be pyschosomatic. I've told my brain the party's over so yes = headaches. These headaches are so low grade I'm not even taking painkillers, but I did start taking a supplement with GABA,Taurine, Glycine, Insotol and Valerian caled True Calm.. maybe that's it?

          Longest ever was 60 days Kuya.. lots of 48's, 45's, 30's etc.
          All else is fine thanks mate.. except SO short tempered, fly into a red rage even when a cup of water is dropped by my son but just as quickly rage is gone and I'm contrite??

          Hi all!!

          Patrice

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            #6
            af day Wed 13 Feb

            Even the moods are part of it, but it will settle down, and your son will soon have a happy healthy mum

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              #7
              af day Wed 13 Feb

              BTW good on the supplement, add B vits and minerals particularly zinc

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                af day Wed 13 Feb

                MAE ALL....

                TT...surprised to see you start the thread. Good on ya keeping us going with all the goings on you have to deal with.

                Patrice...like TT said headaches and sleeping problems are normal. I wonder what non-alcoholics blame everything on. :H
                I've been blaming everything on AL and now that's not there I think I'll blame everything on KY :H

                KY...only cause I know you can take it. :h I've headed your B vitamin suggestion and it has made all the difference. I can sure feel it if I've been neglecting my B's.

                CB...we can handle your negative posts as well. We're not bias here. But just in case you need some :angel:"PPP"                :angel:

                Community Garden meeting today before the big Information Session on Saturday. Always nervous about putting these things on and then everything always goes good. So not going to stress over it. Really looking forward to getting things into action and having a plan for Spring Renewal.

                Have a great AF Wednesday all and all to come...PPQP

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                  #9
                  af day Wed 13 Feb

                  LOL PPQ ......it's prolly true

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                    #10
                    af day Wed 13 Feb

                    Achully ......did you mean me or the lubricant? :H:H

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                      af day Wed 13 Feb

                      kuya;1462022 wrote: Achully ......did you mean me or the lubricant? :H:H
                      :H:H

                      I remember when you actually realised that!

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                        #12
                        af day Wed 13 Feb

                        porqoui;1462026 wrote: :H:H

                        I remember when you actually realised that!
                        It had slipped my mind ! :H:H

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                          af day Wed 13 Feb

                          kuya;1462030 wrote: It had slipped my mind ! :H:H
                          Go to bed. :H

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                            #14
                            af day Wed 13 Feb

                            porqoui;1462031 wrote: Go to bed. :H
                            Are we still talking lubricant ? :H:H

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                              af day Wed 13 Feb

                              kuya;1462032 wrote: Are we still talking lubricant ? :H:H
                              Now you've done it. I'm going to have this stupid grin on my face all day. :thanks:

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