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    Nar that lobster boil sounds great. We have crawfish boils down here. I'm glad you had more fun this year.
    Pav congratulations on making it through another yearvand to the graduation. And I'm happy you had a good time.
    Beach weekend for our little family today.
    I'm feeling a little down. SD moved out with her Brand New boyfriend and I know she is at the minimum drinking. I suspect she's using, but if course she lies. And no counseling. It's too hard for her she says. Hubby is very sad too. I realize this is a personal journey, but sometimes you just want to shake people. Life without that crap is just so much better.
    NS I have thought often about your no more double life. Meeting Mr. NS at the store. I wish we could just let the ones we love feel that feelinf for 5 minutes. But I know that the only way to get the point across is to live the life. Walk the walk, talk the talk kind of thing.
    And yes to who ask the question. I do talk to my daughter about not drinking, but not in a pushy way. I don't want to come across as a preachy, know it all. What a turn off.
    No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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      Good morning, starting Day 5 and feel worlds away from how I felt at the beginning of the week. Instead of feeling out of control and defeated, I'm buoyant, happy and hopeful.

      That's a clue for me, though, that I need to be really, really careful. With the weekend here it would be easy to say to myself that it wasn't so bad. It WAS that bad and I wasn't sure I could ever free myself from the pull of alcohol. I've got to remind myself constantly that the goal isn't to stop drinking long enough to feel human again. It's to stop drinking altogether so that every day is mine to do with what I will. No throw away days!
      You had the power all along, my dear.

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        Morningh Loamers. I am feeling bright eyed and bushy tailed today I have a day off so am going to the market and then my kids and I are having Sushi. My daughter and I are going to get a pedicure after that. OH, first I am going for breakfast with Mr. Nar. No drunk fight last night, thank goodness.

        Pav, I totally get how awesome the end of the school year is. So glad you are enjoying it sobert. What a difference, eh?

        Lil B, I know you struggle with your feelings for your daughter...I mean, who wouldn't? It is a tough one, but you are tough yourself. I see that in you everyday. Ya, the lobster boil was good. These lobsters were flown in from Newfoundland, Canada (North of New York) so they are Atlantic Lobster. Very yummy. I would love to try the craw fish down in your part of the world. Maybe someday!

        Kailey, Yay!! You sound great honey. Glad you are here. Stick with it babes, you can do it. I am at 62 days now and lovin' it. I never thought I would be here before but the days just add up!

        Have a great day everyone. Ava, hope your 'sleep over' was fabulous! wink wink, nudge nudge
        Narilly

        "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
        "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

        AF April 12, 2014

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          MAE Loamers Girls,

          Kailey, you sound fantastic! Yes, change that idea of "NO THROW AWAY DAYS." Love that idea.

          Pav, glad graduation went well. When I taught at our HS, I did that every year and
          it's such a nice event. I miss that. And I'm sorry for your loss. How the hell did I miss that? Did I miss that? Well, thinking of you and hugs gf.

          LB, so glad you're feeling better! Wow, what a small change in our diets can do. Just remove sugar. Have a great time at the beach with your pups!!!!

          Nar, you are cool! And so cool that you and hubby had a great night last night. You sound on top of the world. Have a great time today with your kids. Sounds like a great plan - sushi and pedis.

          Ava, sleep well....hehehe!

          NS, where are you? You need to check in!

          Pat, great on 16 days! You're past that really hard part. Glad you're posting here.

          I wrote this in my journal today...

          I just posted something in the NN about friends in sobriety. I love my girlfriends. Yes, they all drink, most of them have an off-switch. But no, I don't go to the bars and hang out after work (the few times a year that we do that) for hours, or maybe in the future I'll stop for a non-al drink for a short period of time to just keep that connection with them and enjoy their company. From time to time, we go to dinner or lunch (in summers) and that's not an alcohol fueled party. So if they're having a lite beer with lunch, no big deal. That's normal.

          But what I'm trying to incorporate now, is other activities with my gf's that don't center around dinner, a bar, or any night-time activities that would have alcohol. I have a girlfriend that lost her husband in the fall of last year. She's tough, but she really struggles as anyone would losing the love of their lives. She goes to hot yoga in the mornings, so I asked her if I could go with her one morning to try out. No al involved there, but quality time with someone I care about. Another girlfriend has a bike and I just bought one. We're planning on some biking adventures this summer. Again. Quality time with someone I care about and no al in site. They're not alkies, so they do other things! They have fun in other ways. So look at what your friends are doing, what interests do they have and maybe join in with them. These are new adventures and you may find something you enjoy in addition to having quality time with someone you really like.

          Have a great day ladies.
          Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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            Good (my) morning

            Boy, everyone is sounding really good (although sorry about your tough week, Ava). I think I was starting to take that for granted and feel like we've all got this down. This is NOT something to take for granted and take your attention off...GOOD JOB AND KEEP IT UP!!! Especially Pat and Kailey -- just stick with it in these early days and if you're lucky, you'll end up as chipper as Nar. You are so upbeat and cheerful, Nar -- what a nice way to be.

            LB, you probably are worried about your SD but it's good that you're not dealing with her issues minute to minute, especially since you can't really control what happens. I hope something wakes her up, like happened for all of us.

            We are having fabulous weather here right now -- the kind I usually have to travel to get so will be outside as much as possible.

            Enjoy your weekends and keep then AF! xx, NS

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              Thanks Jane! We're not going until next week, but I'll let you know

              Had this thought about sugar: Do you think we were actually addicted to sugar and alcohol? I know...FFS j-vo, that was stupid. But really, do you think we went through sugar withdrawal at the same time as alcohol withdrawal? NS...this is probably a good question for you!
              Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                j-vo;1671486 wrote: Had this thought about sugar: Do you think we were actually addicted to sugar and alcohol? I know...FFS j-vo, that was stupid. But really, do you think we went through sugar withdrawal at the same time as alcohol withdrawal? NS...this is probably a good question for you!
                jane27;1671488 wrote:
                I don't crave the AL the way I crave sugar. Food that doesn't taste sweet doesn't appeal to me much anymore, and we don't have much sweet stuff in the house anymore, so it's usually Cheerios with Splenda or oatmeal that I'll eat. Nuts give me the tiniest thrill. Its a weird place I'm at. Real food just seems blech. This is something new for me.
                J-vo, I think you would have gone through some sort of sugar withdrawal at the same time as AL but only if you made a conscious effort to avoid sugar (since you will unknowingly consume a great deal unless you actively don't). It seems like most people eat more sugar after they quit drinking. The sugar fires up the same reward system that AL does, although not as effectively, which makes you want more, and on and on, continuing the cycle.

                When I first stopped eating sugar and sugary carbs a few years ago, I felt pretty awful, just like I did when I stopped drinking AL. The withdrawal symptoms were very similar. I wonder if quitting sugary stuff contributed to an increase in problems with AL just like quitting AL increases the sugar intake problems for some. For me, the 2 are intricately connected and I suspect that is the case for many people or you wouldn't hear about the consistent increase in desire for sweets in the early AF days.

                For me, getting leads to more wanting, for both sugar and AL. On the flip side, I have absolutely no cravings for either at all anymore. I don't feel deprived, I don't look longingly at people who consume them, etc. I don't want to be the Sugar Police but if you read in depth about the consequences of chronic high intake of sugar and sugary carbs, many of the outcomes are not unlike those of alcohol (e.g. fatty liver disease). Like Turnagain, when you realize how toxic some things can be (acutely and/or chronically), it is much easier to let them go. This thing is, though, it is very hard to look at all of it objectively while you're addicted.

                Jane had asked me some questions about all this. I think I'll answer her here in case anyone else is interested in looking into it.

                Current issue of Time magazine: Fat Is Good for You - TIME
                Robert Lustig's YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
                He also has a couple interesting books.
                This is an interesting recent release:The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet: Nina Teicholz: 9781451624427: Amazon.com: Books.
                If you wanted to follow an online program, there are several such as I Quit Sugar ? A sweeter life without the sugar..
                Or for a total detox and identification of what is contributing to what ails you:Amazon.com: personal paleo code. (Chris Kresser's book is the one I'm referring to).

                That's a start on what's currently readily available .

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                  Hi Nar - I am here, and reading daily. I appreciate your "looking" for me - and so glad to see everyone doing so well.
                  I had a strange period after reaching 100 days, but seemed to have solved it after working out how to achieve new goals. I had worked for four years to get to 100, did it and then fell flat once getting there - I am now focusing on calendar months and whether that solved my funk, or if it was just time not sure, but feeling back on track now.
                  This thread can be really busy, especially during the week where I feel too busy to keep up, then I am silliy enough to feel left out - I know this is my issue, and a little embarrassed to admit it
                  I just need to be comfortable checking in and being an occasional poster - the loamers are important to me, and I hold you all dearly.

                  Trying to work on loosing weight, but it is not happening - still loving the sugar, but managed to cut "extra" sugar down a lot - but the weight is not going anywhere - hate menopause!
                  See you later - have a great goofy Friday:l
                  “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                    Great to see you here, SL. I hope you post as much as you want when you want. Just because some of us do go on and on sometimes doesn't mean everyone should!
                    xx, NS

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                      NoSugar;1671526 wrote: Just because some of us do go on and on sometimes
                      By the way, I was referring to myself - it is just too easy to miscommunicate here.

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                        Good to see you SL! You and I both in our 4th year - hope I do as well as you! Glad to hear you are doing well...
                        IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN
                        Relapse starts long before the drink is drunk!!.Fresh Start!

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                          NoSugar;1671530 wrote: By the way, I was referring to myself - it is just too easy to miscommunicate here.
                          Yes, it is!
                          I was reading a post that someone kept referring to the person he was addressing as 'dear.' Well, I just hate that 'dear' thingie. If someone calls me 'dear' I think 'well f... u too Charlie Brown.'

                          I just find it rather 1950s and condescending.

                          My point is... this poor dude was even ADDRESSING me.

                          So, I said to myself 'calm down there Milly.'
                          Peace!
                          (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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                            Hahaa.. Milly was my nickname with my grandfather when I was a child. I think it was short for McGillicuddy.
                            I had fire red hair & the temper to match. Quite the off the charts rocket temper to be honest.

                            (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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                              Hi all,
                              Everyone sounds great and happy.. And forging ahead!!

                              It's 6.30 am here but promised my son I would wake him up for the World Cup game Australia v Chile...He identifies as being Australian although I am a New Zealander and his father is French but our son was born in Australia.. We now live in Malaysia... Mmm, no wonder he gets a bit confused as to his nationality!,

                              So the third sober weekend starts.. Yay
                              Have a great MAE!
                              Xx
                              Pat

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                                Good on u pat with your days, u r sounding good.

                                I'm watching the soccer too and subjecting HIM to listening to me yell. He's a golfer so not right into the soccer

                                How's the sleeping now??

                                Xx
                                AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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