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    hello Ladies,
    I had a horrible time trying to sign on yesterday-- and I keep getting random popups as well as adds for cleaning programs--windows said that my computer is in danger of a virus and not well protected. Do you ladies know about buying programs to clean the computer? I am embarrassed to say I don't know if it's necessary or not.

    A lot going on this weekend here. You all gave me so much to think about. Abstaining from drinking no matter what is thrown our way, fighting the urges with whatever tools we have, surrendering/accepting the fact that this is who we are and where we stand and, actually, it's exactly where we are supposed to be, letting go of the need to control others, or even help others, especially those who don't want/aren't ready to be helped, how much we are affecting our kids and loved ones with our drinking--and with our not drinking!. You are all so inspiring to me with your strength and determination and empathy.

    My BF just left yesterday to work for 10 days. He is always hesitant to talk with me about my drinking because he's never sure how I will react, but before he left he dared to. He told me how hurtful it is/I am to him when I drink. He said that he wishes it could be like it used to be, that I could have a few drinks, have fun and that's it. I said that is probably the biggest reason I keep trying to moderate--I would like that, too, and I worry that if I really quit, forever, that he will really miss that "fun" side of me and of our relationship. I told him that I know for a fact that I can never drink again moderately, that even if I were to be able to handle it for a day or two I would be back in the throes of misery very soon. He doesn't need to drink, doesn't seem to care whether or not he does, WON'T drink with me anymore, anyway. I am the one that needs to get my head around missing that part of our relationship. Letting go of the fear. It was the situation of my parents and my dad did leave my mom for someone he could drink with. This "being left" is my biggest fear and the reason for many of the problems in our relationship (and all my past intimate relationships)--which I am slowly able to admit, though I've known it forever. Now I have to work on that, my fear, instead of blaming someone/something else.

    I have a possessed cat running around the living room, meowing like a crazy.

    Love to you all. I am so glad to be here in great company. xoxoxoxo

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      LC your post made me cry. I think your struggle is one that many of us share.
      I re-read it a few times - you really reveal so much and make many things clear. Our fears of rejection, blaming others, fear of missing out on the fun, the fact we know how trying to moderate will end, and that we have to face these things, and get our heads around them as you say.

      Your post has touched me and i wish you only the best. It certainly sounds as if you have managed to figure things out for yourself (and btw for me too).

      Hope the cat is ok!

      Hugs and kisses
      AF since 28 October 2013
      600 days on 20 June 2015

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        Hi ladies,
        LC, I really relate to your post as well.. It encapsulates for me that physically stopping the AL throws up all these other questions that we have to acknowledge and deal with when we are sober, and it's not a linear process at all!!
        Hope you are all having a great MAE
        I've got an work do on Wednesday night, wondering if I should go or not.. I don't feel like drinking and that's been for 26 days but I haven't been anywhere at night. I'm going to think carefully and not feel guilty if I end up not going.
        Xx
        Pat

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          Girls, LC, I have to go back and read but am busy at work today. I could not post this weekend.

          I read this interesting article this am:

          Deryck Whibley: 'I had pretty much just damaged everything' - Toronto - CBC News

          It always amazes me that AL is so acceptable in our society.

          anyway, I will post back and will catch up on what I missed this weekend. Love y'all.

          Sober here in Canada.
          Narilly

          "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
          "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

          AF April 12, 2014

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            Hi LC,
            That's a tough one and struggle that involves fear of losing someone you love. Isn't fair. I can see why you fear it as you saw it happen between your parents. Have you discussed this with you BF and how you feel deep down? Does he know what happened with your parents and why you feel this way? You shouldn't have to live with this fear. You said drinking isn't important to him, but you're afraid that not being able to have a few for fun will bother him at some point. Or do you think it will bother you? My DH has a few beers on the weekends, and it doesn't bother me. Don't get me wrong. There are other triggers that I have such as I did on Friday night, but not when he has a beer or two with dinner. Communication could help diffuse this fear, or maybe even counseling. But living with this fear can eventually lead you to drink. I brought up a lot of questions and probably no solutions, LC. :l

            Patrice, if you don't feel secure in your sobriety, I would skip the party. I skipped my end of the year party for that reason. Just wasn't ready and I didn't wanna take any chances. Good for you on 26!!!!:goodjob:
            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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              What a touching post, Jane. Thank you.
              You a very important and valued member of this winning team :l.

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                jane27;1675010 wrote: [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]... here I know that I can come and be myself- totally let my guard down, and I am certain to get support.
                Hear hear!

                I completely agree with this sentiment Jane, and I'm so glad you expressed it. Even as a newcomer to this thread/group, I have felt totally welcomed and warmly embraced.

                I wasn't been on here much over the weekend, not posting much at least, but I was actively reading and absorbing all of the love and support going back and forth and through the middle. My very dear uncle passed away Saturday and along with my grief for him, it has also resurfaced my grief from losing my mom a few years ago.

                Yesterday I was so uncomfortably sad, and I really didn't want to feel it - I was so tempted to drink, more so than any other day since going AF. I think I came to MWO at least once per hour, trying to find strength and inspiration. I found both of these things each and every time. I am sooooo grateful, as by staying sober I have had the sensitivity, stability and clarity of mind to reach out and offer loving and meaningful support to my aunt.

                This uncle was my mom's older brother, our families lived just a few miles apart during my childhood and teen years, we practically grew up with each other. This same aunt and uncle offered a significant amount of support and comfort to my mom and to me during my mom's illness and after she passed away. I have many reasons to want to be available, present, and clear-headed for her at this time.

                Yesterday I wanted very badly to drink, to escape, to be numb. By coming here I was able to stay sober. You all have helped me in ways you don't even know, and by doing so, you are helping my aunt as well.

                Thank you, for both of us, from the bottom of my heart.
                Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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                  Wags,

                  The loss of someone important to me and my ability to keep my commitment through that is probably the one thing that really worries me. I'm sorry when anyone on MWO suffers such a loss but I appreciate hearing about how good they feel about handling all of it without coping in the familiar old bad ways.

                  I'm so glad for you that you made it through yesterday and that MWO helped you. Keep talking and asking for help if you need it over the coming days :l. NS

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                    NoSugar;1675033 wrote: Wags,

                    The loss of someone important to me and my ability to keep my commitment through that is probably the one thing that really worries me. I'm sorry when anyone on MWO suffers such a loss but I appreciate hearing about how good they feel about handling all of it without coping in the familiar old bad ways.

                    I'm so glad for you that you made it through yesterday and that MWO helped you. Keep talking and asking for help if you need it over the coming days :l. NS
                    NS - Thanks for your reply. I never drank the whole time I was my mom's caregiver or after she passed on, even though it was by far the most painful experience of my life (still is). I was tempted to drink this past weekend as grief for my uncle rose and grief for my mom resurfaced, but I protected my quit and am so glad I did.

                    One thing that really helped me, along with coming to MWO, was considering how best to honor their memories. They both died of cancer and had very difficult and painful times before they passed on. They both faced cancer and dying with an incredible amount of courage and dignity. They both would have given almost anything to have had more healthy time, or less suffering. I told myself that it would really be a dishonor to them for me to drink and basically poison myself to avoid my pain. If they could face things with courage and dignity, then so can I.

                    I think if you plan to be strong and stay the course when you experience loss, you will find a way to protect your quit and be fully present. It won't be easy, in fact it will likely be very painful. But it will be real life and I'm fairly certain it will make you stronger.
                    Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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                      Wag, so sorry for your loss - remember your mum and uncle would be so proud of you......
                      IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN
                      Relapse starts long before the drink is drunk!!.Fresh Start!

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                        jane27;1675040 wrote: Its ok to feel bad, or sad.
                        Thanks Jane. I think this is part of the key for me as I move forward AF. Wanting to escape or numb uncomfortable feelings has probably been my biggest trigger, and once I start down that path I have a hard time stopping. Yesterday surprised me a bit, as I considered AL to be non-negotiable - I have mentally taken it off the table. Yesterday I was supremely tested but I guess I passed the test. I still have to work on the "ok to feel bad or sad" part, but hopefully just staying with the feelings and not running from them will be a step in the right direction.
                        Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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                          daisy45;1675042 wrote: Wag, so sorry for your loss - remember your mum and uncle would be so proud of you......
                          Thanks Daisy. I hope so.
                          Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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                            Wag, I saw your post in NN. My deepest condolences. You handled this very difficult time like a long-term abber would. I'm so glad you're here with us and can share your struggles and strengths. We're here for ya.:l
                            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                              Little Beagle,

                              I listened to this today and thought of all your efforts with your family members: 950 Overcoming Addiction with Science and Compassion - The People's Pharmacy®

                              Much of it is about this book:
                              Beyond Addiction: How Science and Kindness Help People Change: Jeffrey Foote, Carrie Wilkens, Nicole Kosanke, Stephanie Higgs: 9781476709475: Amazon.com: Books

                              Maybe it would be useful for you. I hope things are going better for you this week. :h NS

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                                j-vo;1675053 wrote: Wag, I saw your post in NN. My deepest condolences. You handled this very difficult time like a long-term abber would. I'm so glad you're here with us and can share your struggles and strengths. We're here for ya.:l
                                Thanks j-vo, I really appreciate everything you said and all of your support.
                                Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

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