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    Hi, Everyone!

    Sweet post, Jane. I know that the count can't be right because Ava is 1 calendar and frequently 2 days behind me. I believe Sunday was 203 which makes today, Monday, 204 for me and 205 for Ava. I love the group support here, too.

    LC - I'm sorry about your turmoil. I believe it is a good thing that he talked to you about alcohol before he left, and that he expressed sorrow to lose the drinking you. I think that would be normal to feel, and I would assume that a lot of spouses, for fear of seeming to be unsupportive, might not express those feelings. You can and will be the fun person you are. I find when, say, DH wants to do something silly, I have to take and extra beat to push myself into it (alcohol allowed me to be less self conscious), but that when I do, I can be and have just as much fun. That is especially true when I am not in deprivation mode.

    Wags - I am sorry for your loss. I nursed my MiL while she was sick (we were very close) and I drank through that, though at the time (10 years ago) I felt much more in control than I did at the end of my drinking career. NS, I, too, am afraid for that BIG event that I can't mask with alcohol. I don't think about it too much, because fortunately I am not very good at worrying about catastrophic things. Thanks, as always for the links.

    (And speaking of links, I listened to The Bubble Hour - What's in Your Sober Toolbox. HIGHLY recommend.)

    These are the situations that can cause relapse according to Addiction Recovery – Alcohol and Drug Abuse Treatment Resources.
    Loss of a loved one
    Major financial changes
    Change in employment
    Social pressures or conflicts
    Change in marital status
    Boredom with life
    Health issues

    Sounds like "everyday" issues we have to face, so it is good to stay vigilant and think about how we will handle them as they arise.

    Ava - Sorry about Maddie - I hope she recovers soon.

    Nar - Off the table! I wake up with headaches from time to time since quitting, and it makes me tense. Thank goodness they go away with coffee, usually, instead of lingering with the stomach aches and anxiety of a hangover.

    Long day at the conference and another one tomorrow. I have to endure happy hour and dinner tomorrow - should be ok with a great team, but I am sure there will be the initial "woe is me." I'm prepared and hope I can not feel that someday.

    SL - Where is your vacation with your daughters? Whenever I focus on making my muffin top a mini it always goes the other way because I become crazy with food thoughts. Trying just to "eat healthy" and wear a "slimming" bathing suit that holds it all in.

    Ginger! Way to go on 50!!! Amazing effort and focus - great work.

    Kailey - what ARE you up to?? Keep working on this - it is SO worth it!

    LB, Daisy, Giraffe, Dot, Ann - hope you are all doing well (and anyone else I missed - my computer is SLOW on the backspace so it is hard to read back).

    This post is as meandering as my thoughts right now. It probably won't make sense, but I'm hitting reply anyway.

    xo
    Pav

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      Ladies on a Mission: The Official Site

      Hi, Everyone!

      Sweet post, Jane. I know that the count can't be right because Ava is 1 calendar and frequently 2 days behind me. I believe Sunday was 203 which makes today, Monday, 204 for me and 205 for Ava. I love the group support here, too.

      LC - I'm sorry about your turmoil. I believe it is a good thing that he talked to you about alcohol before he left, and that he expressed sorrow to lose the drinking you. I think that would be normal to feel, and I would assume that a lot of spouses, for fear of seeming to be unsupportive, might not express those feelings. You can and will be the fun person you are. I find when, say, DH wants to do something silly, I have to take and extra beat to push myself into it (alcohol allowed me to be less self conscious), but that when I do, I can be and have just as much fun. That is especially true when I am not in deprivation mode.

      Wags - I am sorry for your loss. I nursed my MiL while she was sick (we were very close) and I drank through that, though at the time (10 years ago) I felt much more in control than I did at the end of my drinking career. NS, I, too, am afraid for that BIG event that I can't mask with alcohol. I don't think about it too much, because fortunately I am not very good at worrying about catastrophic things. Thanks, as always for the links.

      (And speaking of links, I listened to The Bubble Hour - What's in Your Sober Toolbox. HIGHLY recommend.)

      These are the situations that can cause relapse according to Addiction Recovery – Alcohol and Drug Abuse Treatment Resources.
      Loss of a loved one
      Major financial changes
      Change in employment
      Social pressures or conflicts
      Change in marital status
      Boredom with life
      Health issues

      Sounds like "everyday" issues we have to face, so it is good to stay vigilant and think about how we will handle them as they arise.

      Ava - Sorry about Maddie - I hope she recovers soon.

      Nar - Off the table! I wake up with headaches from time to time since quitting, and it makes me tense. Thank goodness they go away with coffee, usually, instead of lingering with the stomach aches and anxiety of a hangover.

      Long day at the conference and another one tomorrow. I have to endure happy hour and dinner tomorrow - should be ok with a great team, but I am sure there will be the initial "woe is me." I'm prepared and hope I can not feel that someday.

      SL - Where is your vacation with your daughters? Whenever I focus on making my muffin top a mini it always goes the other way because I become crazy with food thoughts. Trying just to "eat healthy" and wear a "slimming" bathing suit that holds it all in.

      Ginger! Way to go on 50!!! Amazing effort and focus - great work.

      Kailey - what ARE you up to?? Keep working on this - it is SO worth it!

      LB, Daisy, Giraffe, Dot, Ann - hope you are all doing well (and anyone else I missed - my computer is SLOW on the backspace so it is hard to read back).

      This post is as meandering as my thoughts right now. It probably won't make sense, but I'm hitting reply anyway.

      xo
      Pav

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        My posts keep going on twice - aren't you all lucky! I'm afraid to delete...

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          Good morning! Yes, I'm still at It, NS and Pav. I drank on Saturday, though, and just couldn't bring myself to mention it here. Somehow it felt like you all would somehow not believe how much I want to quit, how much I GET it, in the face of yet another slip. I can barely get my head around it myself. It's not that I haven't seen endless kindness and patience here on this thread, it's just...I don't know? I'm afraid to be written off in someone's head. Does that make any sense? This is a lifeline for me and I don't want to lose it.

          Anyway, I didn't drink on Sunday or yesterday so I'm back to Day 3. I avoided the Newbies Nest roll call for the last few days, but will start again today. I guess I need to be more transparent. I'm not good at the warts and all thing.

          Despite the fact that I didn't make it through Saturday, I feel stronger than ever. I really don't worry about getting through this work week, and will just need a stronger plan by the next weekend. I've started listening to The Bubble Hour in the morning before work while I'm on the treadmill and feel like I have two important things done before I even head out the door in the morning.

          My big issue is trying to break free from alcohol while my husband is drinking every single night. I think if he could find a way to stop to support me he would, but he struggles, too. So, I'm going to have to learn to do this in spite of the constant temptation.

          Thank God he doesn't drink wine! I was in the bath last night, not even thinking about drinking, and I got the strongest craving out of the blue for a sip of wine (probably due to the thousands of glasses I've brought back to the tub with me!). Anyway, I was able to dismiss it pretty quickly, but I would have been in trouble if there was wine in the house!

          Ava and Wag...I'm with you on suffering when our dogs are not doing well. We lost our dog a few months ago after 13 years and I really don't know how we got through it... not well! It's a story for another day, but it sure was a time when both my husband and I were very vulnerable and could barely help each other through it. Argh. I'm ready to think of a new dog, but my husband doesn't think he can face the pain of eventually loosing one again. Neither one of us is very good at handling sad feelings.

          Thanks for the ear this morning, ladies. I hope the day finds you all in good spirits.
          You had the power all along, my dear.

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            Kailey being honest is one of the main issues with giving up al. we lied with drinking for so damn long. I lied about how much i drank, when i drank, what i drank, i lied so i could be alone and drink. When i realised that i had to be accountable to myself and to my children and to here then it was easier. I knew i had the support of mwo and believe me we do understand the struggles with al. It will take and take and take if we let it and its hard to say no in the first few weeks. You are doing so well and you are here. I ran away very quickly when i started drinking and that was a huge mistake on my part but look at me now and never in my wildest dreams did i ever think i would be sober nearly 7 months.

            It is great you dont have al in the house, a massive step in the right direction. You are doing all the right things and you have a positive attitude, all of which are a step in getting sober for ever.

            Oh my dog, my maddison, she is 11 and had pancreatitis in Feb of this year and i nearly lost her, she is epileptic, heart murmur, arthritis but she is my baby. I am thinking positive thoughts (as she is snoring quite happily) and she seems happy and healthy but i know she needs to go back into hospital to get her teeth done and i will do that early next week. I am here for her sober and i hate to imagine the amount of times she had a seizure and i did not know as i was too drunk. Now even she has a sober mum and i am sure she appreciates that! My children say they are going on a long holiday when mads dies as they know i will be a basket case but shes part of the family and they will grieve also, i know that. Maybe a dog is just what you need now.

            Well my bedtime ladies and i look forward to waking up to all the gossip before work. Be good and be safe.
            AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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              Kailey :l I had a tough time not drinking because my husband drank so much. But it eventually did work. He just passed 300 days sober. But I spent a lot of time alone. I didn't hang out with him when he drank.
              I am having more fun with him with us both not drinking then we had drinking for years. Hope that makes sense.
              Pav good to hear you are doing alright. Good work.
              I have been reading everyone's posts and I'm sorry I'm not contributing a lot right now.
              I'm really angry inside right now. My husband has a hair trigger with me and is constantly yelling and impatient. I'm hoping we can work through this. I don't really know what's going to happen and I'm afraid. I don't really know how to make this better, but I'm not going to just keep being walked on. I think time will take care of this, so I am being patient for the moment. Plus I've been told I'm just a pushy bitch and no one wants to hear anything I have to say. Not in those exact words, but that's the gist.
              We all have situations we use to use alcohol to get through and now we all have to relearn how to deal with everything.
              I like Jane's circle of hands. We all pass along the knowledge we get.
              I was told last night I have no friends, but I quickly corrected him. I have wonderful friends.
              Maybe I am feeling a bit of self pity lately, that's bad and I know it.
              No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                Oh, little beagle... I hate to hear this.
                Your husband must be in a really bad place in his mind to say such mean things. I mean, really ... what is the point of saying someone has no friends, but to be hurtful.
                He needs to look in the mirror. I am a non confrontation type... saying mean things back never really helps anyhow. I am sorry you have to listen to him. Maybe you shouldn't!

                The only thing I can think of is to approach him about this when he is completely calm.
                Repeat his words to him. See what he thinks?
                You have a legitimate complaint here little beagle. You deserve better.
                (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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                  Eloise;1675251 wrote: You have a legitimate complaint here little beagle. You deserve better.
                  Yes, you do!
                  You had the power all along, my dear.

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                    Thank you Eloise and Kailey. This too shall pass.
                    No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                      Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                        Good job, J! YOU DID IT!

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                          Kailey;1675227 wrote: I drank on Saturday, though, and just couldn't bring myself to mention it here. Somehow it felt like you all would somehow not believe how much I want to quit, how much I GET it, in the face of yet another slip. I can barely get my head around it myself. It's not that I haven't seen endless kindness and patience here on this thread, it's just...I don't know? I'm afraid to be written off in someone's head. Does that make any sense? This is a lifeline for me and I don't want to lose it.
                          When I joined this site, I somehow had it in my head that this was IT. Either I would succeed or... I don't know what I thought the OR was. All I knew was that it had to work. So it looks like I succeeded the first time I tried. This wasn't the case. I tried plenty of times on my own and in fact, had some good AF stretches. That was nice in some ways but because they all eventually ended, I started doubting that I could ever quit for good, which is what I so wanted. Anyway, that feeling that this was my "last chance" ended up serving me well because I was too scared to let this quit go.

                          Since all we really know is our own experience, I didn't take some people seriously those first couple months because they kept having day ones. I did "write them off in my head". I couldn't imagine that they would ever succeed because I had built this up as being a one-shot deal.

                          The great news is that I was totally wrong. Some people who were here at that time, posting and struggling, are now in the high numbers of days AF. Hard as it is to imagine, Byrdlady couldn't get it right during her first year and look at her now!

                          I would now never
                          give up on someone now who expresses the goal of becoming AF. The struggle seems to be part of the process - some people do it privately and others do it here. And one of the times, it clicks.

                          So please don't drift away or not post because you are embarrassed. If you make a bad choice but get right back with the program, you're not letting it gain a foothold again. The very next quit can be your last.


                          little beagle;1675243 wrote:

                          I'm really angry inside right now....
                          LB, You should be angry! You don't deserve to be treated the way you're being treated and now you know it - Just like you would be angry if you saw another person being disrespected and criticized and diminished.

                          You've been incredibly kind to and patient with your family and hopefully when they've healed more, they'll be able to reciprocate. I'm so sorry that in the meantime you have to deal with all of this. It must be hard to always be the adult in the room.

                          Love from one of your friends, NS

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                            NS...you've created a monster! BTW, these are sugar-free cupcakes just for you!
                            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                              Kailey, never quit quitting....as long as you want it......that is important.....
                              LilB, sucks to be treated like that.....don't know what to add, just that you know we are here....hugs....
                              IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN
                              Relapse starts long before the drink is drunk!!.Fresh Start!

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                                NoSugar;1675314 wrote: When I joined this site, I somehow had it in my head that this was IT. Either I would succeed or... I don't know what I thought the OR was. All I knew was that it had to work. So it looks like I succeeded the first time I tried. This wasn't the case. I tried plenty of times on my own and in fact, had some good AF stretches. That was nice in some ways but because they all eventually ended, I started doubting that I could ever quit for good, which is what I so wanted. Anyway, that feeling that this was my "last chance" ended up serving me well because I was too scared to let this quit go.

                                Since all we really know is our own experience, I didn't take some people seriously those first couple months because they kept having day ones. I did "write them off in my head". I couldn't imagine that they would ever succeed because I had built this up as being a one-shot deal.

                                The great news is that I was totally wrong. Some people who were here at that time, posting and struggling, are now in the high numbers of days AF. Hard as it is to imagine, Byrdlady couldn't get it right during her first year and look at her now!

                                I would now never
                                give up on someone now who expresses the goal of becoming AF. The struggle seems to be part of the process - some people do it privately and others do it here. And one of the times, it clicks.

                                So please don't drift away or not post because you are embarrassed. If you make a bad choice but get right back with the program, you're not letting it gain a foothold again. The very next quit can be your last.

                                Love from one of your friends, NS
                                Oh my I am so in agreement with your words... I have been trying to quit since 2007. Good grief!!
                                Yup.
                                Miss 'on again off again.'.. not always on this site though. Doesn't matter.
                                I do not judge AnyOne because I do not want people judging me. "She a flake." Well sometimes that is true.

                                Just hope back on that horse!! We are all cheering for you. HOnestLy.
                                (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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