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    NS, not sure which one of those people I am but It is a very interesting post. YOU are very interesting.


    Pav, now that is bonding...fixing warts with your kids

    Hey, I am at work and just popping in to say hi. I was listening to the Bubble Hour yesterday and they were talking about group support and how much it helps to have a support group.

    THANK YOU for being my support group!
    xx
    Narilly

    "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
    "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

    AF April 12, 2014

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      Wags so glad you have met someone and are happy, we all deserve that. Does he have a friend ha ha.

      Mr G my bitch meter will be right off the charts by the end of the week especially the way work is atm with no one there. my office manager has the organisational skills of a blow fly and hes just as annoying.

      Pav its hard to get my head around that we will be celebrating a year sober soon, i look at those days going up and up and up and smile and think of how much better my life is now. Last night tye dropped a can of coke and it fizzed everywhere, he said "mum help me" so i ran over with a tea towel, fell arse over tit, got sprayed with coke and we were both on the floor laughing, with him asking if we could do that again. I rewind back to my drinking days and i A: would have yelled at him, B: helped and flew threw the wall or C: been in my room drinking and would not have been there to help. 1000 warts or slipping arse over tit are wonderful memories to have.

      Nar we had a warm night also and i didnt sleep well, i have too many doonas and blankets and boiled, i should not complain as i love spring weather and today its not as warm.

      Well time for work but found the thread to say a quick hello. have a happy day.
      AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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        After reading that article The masks of Adddiction and Recovery it got me to thinking that those who live with Addicted ones wear masks also.
        Ava I have a picture of you arse over tits.
        No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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          ava and pav when is the bid day???? I know you are right behind me but done remember how far.
          Ran all my errands today now watching some TV.
          I am tired lately. Going to doc on Thursday to ask for some blood work. I need a tuneup.....
          Dottie

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            Evening Ladies,

            Well, NS, you've posted some great articles. Thanks for the homework!

            I think that it's not all black and white. Both psychogenic and biogenic can coexist and lead to alcoholism, and can depend how strong the psycho vs. bio is...which one carries more weight in a person. For me, I think I have both tendencies, but after watching that video a few weeks back that NS posted, I believe much more that its biogenic. The psycho-shit is just the icing on the cake.

            What you said above NS about the length of time it takes to heal, yes, it's really long, and I need to get comfortable with that and never complacent.

            Nar, I was thinking of joining a support group at my church. It's not AA but kind of along those lines. I'm not sure yet, but I think I need more. I'm afraid to add one more thing to my plate and then really go nuts.

            NS, I never did believe that character defect crap in AA. And that makes so much sense - alcoholic isn't diagnosed until after all of those character defects and personality is distorted because of the alcohol. I like knowing that it is biogenic, because it's nice to know we didn't make this happen. We aren't defective. We just can't drink.

            Hi G-man!

            LB, hope things are settling down at home and you're feeling better.

            Wags, great to hear from you! And great to hear of your news!

            Dot, hope you start to feel more energy. Are you still training?

            Jane...hehe

            Well, to get on here, I just click "today." Is that what everyone does? If I missed someone because I had to go back further, please advise. Let's see if the little pics still work...
            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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              WOW jane that was a great post and I totally agree with you on the site issues.
              I have expressed my concern/issues with NO one responding. I am sad and kind of put out. You said what I have been thinking but so much better!
              Dottie

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                Dottie hope you feel better after the Dr.
                J-vo thanks for the support. Yes things are finally settling down here. And we finally had a talk this evening. Tuesday nights are special for us. We work together at the office and it's a neutral territory.
                Wags so glad to see you here. And the news that you are seeing someone is great.
                Jane that was a great talk today and I feel better. I often don't want to be a bother, but it's wonderful to have someone to talk to who understands the issue.
                Have a great night, or morning everyone.
                No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                  Goodnight ladies. I'm pooped so will talk later. Everything's good here
                  Narilly

                  "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                  "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                  AF April 12, 2014

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                    You've gone and done it now, NS! Made me create a word doc to copy/paste all your links into so they don't drift away before I can read/watch them all! I'm still watching the Dawn Farm video you linked to a few days ago. How will I ever keep up with you?

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                      Hi, Gloamers:

                      I actually see the threads like before, except some are buried in other sections (like the 100 day thread - off in Siberia). I am not a subscriber, and I guess so far that seems like a good thing? I agree, Jane and Dot that this makes me a bit uneasy.

                      Wags - So glad all is good and that you found somebody! Whoot! I hope it works out if you are happy.

                      I'm checking in late and am off to bed. My dad had surgery and we had a slight complication today that meant a trip to the doc. He's all fine, but it changed my afternoon/evening for sure.

                      xo
                      Pav

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                        Pav, love you. Hope you guys are ok too.


                        I just posted this in the nest and wanted to put it here:
                        I listened to a Doctor on the radio yesterday and he said he quit smoking by doing 2 things (this can help with not drinking AL also) 1. he associated drinking with a visual memory such as seeing a man with cancer and his throat opened up for surgery which was caused due to smoking. 2. He associated drinking with a physical sensation. Everytime he wanted to smoke he would breathe in a bag he had filled full of old cigarettes and the smell was terrible. He said this helped his brain associate smoking with something negative and helped him to quit.

                        I am thinking of how to use this same technique with not drinking. 1. associate drinking with me blacking out and staggering all over 2. I am not sure about this one. Any ideas? A physical sensation resulting from drinking? Maybe the smell of vomit or stale beer? Not sure.

                        xx
                        Narilly

                        "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                        "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                        AF April 12, 2014

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                          Hey, Narilly

                          I think a reminder like you describe is a great tool. The other night I was pouring out into the sink a bottle of (very cheap) white wine that a guest had brought that evening. This would be the same sink into which I have poured out many partial bottles of slightly less cheap red wine as I, feeling hungover, nauseous, guilty and miserable, swore yet again that I was DONE drinking. (So easy to say in the morning... ) Anyway, the icky alcohol smell that arose almost made me gag and memories of those mornings came flooding into my mind. It was such a strong reminder of where I've been and never want to be again.

                          I heard from someone earlier that they were under the impression you need to be invited to post here. That of course is not the case but: To anyone who is on a mission to free yourself from alcohol and life a full life, unencumbered by the weight of an addiction, POST AWAY!!! I truly believe that interacting with people who share your goals and values makes them so much easier to attain and maintain. The more different perspectives and styles of communicating we have, the more likely something will be presented in a way that another person who needs to hear it will be able to "get" the message. (Ava and I have laughed several times about how we've written essentially the same thing in much different ways, to say the least :H
                          ..).

                          This is from a great blog post on the subject:

                          "The contagion of addiction is transmitted through a process of infection--the movement of addiction disease from one vulnerable person to another. The contagion of recovery is spread quite differently--not through infection, but affection. Those who spread such affection are recovery carriers
                          . Recovery carriers affirm that long-term recovery is possible and that the promises of recovery are far more than the removal of drugs from an otherwise unchanged life. They tell us that we have the potential to get well and to then get better than well. They challenge us to stop being everyone's problem and to become part of the solution. They relate to us from a position of profound empathy, emotional authenticity, respect and moral equality--lacking even a whisper of contempt. Most importantly, they offer us love. Yeah, some of us got loved into recovery, and I don't mean in the way some of you with smiles on your faces may be thinking."
                          "We all have the potential to be recovery carriers. Becoming a recovery carrier requires several things. It requires that we protect our recoveries at all cost--
                          Recovery by any means necessary under any circumstances
                          . It requires that we help our families recover. It requires the courage to reach out to those whose lives are still being ravaged. It requires that we give back to NET and other organizations that helped us along the way. And it requires that in our new life, we try to heal the wounds we inflicted on our community in our past life."
                          http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/bl...ous-redux.html

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                            Checking in at lunch today. My folks are planning a trip to our little humble city from today until Sunday, so I'l be visiting at my sisters tonight. They're staying with her this time, which is good as we get up too early for work and school.

                            Pav, hope Dad is ok and doing well now.

                            Jane, hope your visit with MIL turns out good! I've been getting along with my MIL so much more this past year. IT's amazing when alcohol is taken out of the equation.

                            Nar, I think those are great tools. I need to do more of that and keep the 'bad' consequences in the forefront of my mind. It's easy to begin romanticizing al and the good times. Not too many of those after age 40 I can truly say. I don't want any of it.

                            We need to remember to forgive ourselves for those bad consequences, though. Remembering but not punishing ourselves is important. We don't want anymore punishment.
                            Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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                              Just wanted to thank everyone for being here. It helps me tremendously.

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                                Evening ladies,
                                Going upstairs to watch TV. Dh and I take turns watching the big tv so it is my turn to go upstairs.
                                Doctor tomorrow. Just the primary care guy but I want him to order some blood work. Then I see the cardiologist on Monday and I imagine she will add some additional tests. I am waiting for them both to decide what tests before I go get the blood drawn. My veins are so hard to hit that I want it all done at once. I still don't feel right. I can feel my heart beating and it is so strange. It is not an irregular thing but unnerving still. I worry about blood clots after my issue with them last year. So darn much to think about..sigh....
                                Have a good evening all.
                                Dottie

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