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    Hi, all:

    Thanks for the links, NS and SL - I watched both this morning with my coffee. It really is SO amazing what alcohol does to a body, and how ignorant we are of it. I want to talk to my husband about the drinking (he's a normie, but still drinks over the recommended limit sometimes). I don't want to be a social pariah by walking around telling everyone how bad alcohol is, but GEEZ.

    SL - Enjoy your 1:1. I love getting that time, too.

    Off to the first holiday party. I have a car so I won't be posting from the bathroom again. Exit strategy, check. I really just feel like sitting home and watching Netflix, but I really like the people who will be at the party, so I am sure I'll be glad I went.

    Happy Sober Saturday,
    Pav

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      And Nar - do what you need to do, lady. You know you don't drink, so you may as well put those dang thoughts away. I see there is a new Bubble Hour on sex and intimacy in sobriety. Maybe have a listen and then a little roll in the hay to take your mind off things? Just a suggestion.

      xo

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        Narilly i too have been having some thoughts about a drink or maybe 100.
        This is a rough weekend for us. Hubby is making me crazy. He's isolating himself in the spare room. Being snotty and rude to me and blaming me for his bad mood. Ugh. But I went to my daughter's last night and rented a movie we both wanted to watch this evening. And I don't drink. No matter WHAT! And so there it is.
        This too shall pass.
        I enjoyed the links. Thanks you ladies.
        Eloise sorry. I've been meaning to say congratulations on the 200 days.
        No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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          Hi gloamers! I've been spending time in the nest, but have been following along here as well. The holiday season bug will no doubt bite us all in the ass at some point, but as Narilly says "we just don't drink!"

          pssst...Jane has her 11 month milestone today.....
          Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
          Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
          Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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            Originally posted by Pavati View Post
            And I didn't mean to ignore everyone else.

            I said it in the nest, but CONGRATULATIONS ELOISE on 200 days. Whoot!

            LB - I love your description of grief and how glad you are to not be numb. NS, you, too.

            Nar - You sound good these days. How is your son doing?

            Hope everyone is great.

            Pav
            Thanks Pav, DreamThinkDo... and Jane... dear Jane how I do admire the poorboy!! Why oh why cannot he not be in 3D??!!

            Ah, after 200 days I do look at this journey in a different light and am I ever happy I finally made this commitment!
            (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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              Good morning.

              Sorry you're feeling like that, too, LB. As you all know I just had a bout of that a couple of weeks ago. The good news is it is gone now, and the other good news is that neither of you will drink because you don't drink.

              LB - Did something happen between you and hubs? The emotional roller coaster of relationships! You are such a strong, supportive person - make sure you continue taking care of yourself. A night of movies with your daughter sounds like just the ticket...

              I am reading the aforementioned Anne Lamott book. She talks a lot about forgiveness - the idea that harboring resentments only ends up hurting us. She admits that actual forgiveness, especially for extreme transgressions against us or our families, is very hard and takes a lot of work. So I have been thinking about three resentments I hold - one with a former employer, one with a "friend," and one with a family member. I have decided that I am going to try to forgive them. This is my mission for right now. I don't really know how it will be possible, but I will report back to you. I'm going to start with the easier one - the employer. We'll see.

              Eloise - wonderful to hear you sounding so great.

              Jane - 11 MONTHS! Amazing! Way to go. Look forward to celebrating the big milestone in one month. I am having some sinus issues and thinking of you (isn't that sweet).

              Happy Sober Sunday, all. I have some shopping to do for myself but will have to brave the holiday mall to do so. May just skip it...

              xo
              Pav

              PS - The party went great. We stayed for four hours, nearly the last to leave. Lots of laughs, and I drove home with no regret. Glad I went.

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                Had a good evening - made her fav food, and watched "one flew over the cuckoos nest" - missed the other one, feels odd when we are not all under same roof.
                Got text at 7ish to say pick me up - the mother had stuff to do so decided sleep over was done!!! She has gone to bed and I am now working out what to do next - went to stores yesterday Pav, it was too busy for my likings - got some stuff done and ran away back to the quiet of my home:happy2:
                Have a good day all - and squash those thoughts Nar or a brick will come your way I am sure (not sure about Pavs recommendation - but then I don't have a hay partner :eek-new
                Glad you really enjoyed your party Pav
                Congrats Jane - looking forward to the January party!
                “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                  Thank you ABC & everyone! We are in Florida for a few days and enjoying the warmer weather. I've been checking out the wine bottles I see in stores ( they sell wine at Target down here). It's not that I'm feeling tempted. I wonder if the more frequent thoughts of alcohol are coming up as the result of the accrued sobriety- like feeling strong enough to acknowledge the feelings. Any thoughts?

                  Pav, Im with you. My sinuses are acting up again. Saw the ENT last week and got a scrip for Augmentin. I want to see if it makes me feel better, and if so for how long. In January im having the periodontal surgery. Still trying to sort out the last of the fever of unknown origin. The mold remediation and duct cleaning helped a lot, but I'm still not where I'd like to be which is fever less.
                  Wishing everyone strength

                  Ps I'm craving sour green apple soda which I've never had and don't know if exists.
                  Last edited by jane27; December 7, 2014, 10:45 PM.
                  AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                    I'm glad you enjoyed the party Pav. Once I got the hang of it, socializing without alcohol was so much more enjoyable.
                    SL glad you had some quality time.
                    Jane congratulations on 11 months. I was in the little neighborhood store with my daughter the other night. I was looking through the beer selection and she kept nudging me away. I finally looked at her and told her I was looking to see if they sold NA beer. Not that I wanted any, I just wanted to see if they offered.
                    No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                      Congratulations Jane what a wonderful achievement on 11 months. Enjoy the sunshine and being sober. Hugs from afar xx
                      AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                        Goodnight, Gloamers.

                        Wonderful day with the fam. My cravings (thoughts) from two weeks ago are gone - good riddance.

                        We are leaving out of the country for two weeks - so excited to get away from the holiday hububb. Will be leaving in a week and a half.

                        Hope all is well, ladies and gents.

                        Pav

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                          Good Morning Gloamers,
                          Pav your post got me thinking about cravings. There is such a broad spectrum. I'm so glad I seem to be passed the IWANTTODRINKRIGHTTHEFUCKNOW type of cravings (but maybe it's not a great idea to make that presumption). Quitting AL successfully means adopting a full time job as a security guard lol. Wishing everyone a great day.
                          AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                            Hey, Jane, You're sounding pretty positive and much less overwhelmed. That must feel good (Florida weather could cure many of the things that ail me!!).

                            What do you mean by "checking out" here?

                            Originally posted by jane27 View Post
                            I've been checking out the wine bottles I see in stores ( they sell wine at Target down here). It's not that I'm feeling tempted. I wonder if the more frequent thoughts of alcohol are coming up as the result of the accrued sobriety- like feeling strong enough to acknowledge the feelings. Any thoughts?
                            I'm not in denial that they're there - heck, every endcap in our grocery stores seems to have a festive wine display! - but I'm kind of dead to them. Sort of like a vegetarian wouldn't check out the butcher case, I deliberately don't pay much attention to any of it. Part of that is because I know those pathways that lead to desire are still in my brain and they can be fired up by all the cues associated with drinking. I know I could make myself want a glass(es) of wine if I just sat here and thought about it in positive ways for awhile. So I don't.

                            Anyway, those are my thoughts about it. I'm glad for you that you're not looking at those bottles with desire. xx, NS

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                              I know those pathways that lead to desire are still in my brain and they can be fired up by all the cues associated with drinking. I know I could make myself want a glass(es) of wine if I just sat here and thought about it in positive ways for awhile. So I don't.
                              NS, that is a really good point. I let myself go there in my mind sometimes and that is when I start to have cravings. Thanks for pointing that out. YOU are the best!
                              SL, don't worry, I am VERY afraid of the brick so I will not drink! I went shopping too and it was crazy here but now I am almost done.
                              Pav, two weeks on a holiday? Nice! I am staying here but will enjoy hanging out with my family. My daughter is coming home from University on Dec 16 and that will be awesome. Hopefully I will get to see her the social butterfly she is!

                              Exactly Cowboy- "We don't drink!"

                              Good Unhungover Monday Morning everyone. I was really busy on the weekend and did not get to post too much. I thought I was going to have cravings but I didn't which was great! I posted here on Friday during the day and that must have done the trick to dissipate any drinking thoughts. Thanks goodness for MWO.
                              Narilly

                              "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                              "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                              AF April 12, 2014

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                                I read a really wonderful book I wanted to share with the gloamers.
                                The Story of Awkward by R.K. Ryals. It's a young adult fiction. But it has such a wonderful message about not killing our selves to obtain impossible perfection. I often wonder if that wasn't part of my drinking issue. Always feeling awkward and unsure of myself.
                                No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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