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    Hiya,
    I just did that Facebook questionaire... What job are you most suited to?
    I got Therapist!! So fire away girls and guys!
    I really like what Pav wrote about feelings of discomfort...there is so much discomfort generally in our lives and Yes we just have to feel those feelings rather than try and quash them ..
    Hope you are having a good night. I was up at 5am but asleep by 9.30pm last night so I've had my sleep quota and feel fine. Not sleeping well is one of the above discomforts ( for me), that I need to relax about when it happens.
    Take care all
    Pat
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      Isn't it crazy that we would go to a doctor or therapist (paying for the privilege!) and then not telling the whole truth, making the whole thing pretty pointless? I must say, though, I think professionals are very leery about pressing their patients or clients on alcohol issues - they've probably learned that any pressure will drive the person away. I've noticed in the overall health and nutrition sites I read where discouraging alcohol use would fit the narrative, it is the third rail - it either is not mentioned at all or the standard daily 1 unit for women, 2 units for men is is offered. The fact is, it's toxic and we'd all be better off without it.

      I haven't listened to that BH, Pav, but it sounds like a good one. I did listen to the one that aired on Sunday 1/18 called "Unstuck" which is a lot of fun. All 4 women are physically together for the first time and it makes me think of how we would probably be if we were all in one room together. A few times they really crack up and you can't help but laugh with them.

      xpost again, Pat! Hope you have a good day :smile:.

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        Pepper, your post reminded me of my past therapy, about six years ago. I wasn't disclosing everything, just the stuff I wanted to say. He probably had me figured out, but I quit because I fixed myself . Yep. Here I am six years later with the same problems. I did a great job of fixing myself. Denial works wonders. Looks as though your therapist was reaching for anything, so she could justify her bill to you!
        Sometimes what you're most afraid of doing is the very thing that will set you free.

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          J-Vo what a coincidence! I fixed myself 4 years ago, too! We are a couple of very talented people! I think you're right, too, NS - that she had her suspicions but didn't want to go there. Maybe she came up with the ridiculous theory about my husband to get me to be straight with her. Or maybe she was just a really bad therapist...

          I admire all of you who are going to therapy and am kind of envious....and maybe want a second shot, now that I'm done trying to win the Oscar for pretending my life is perfect. I also think about finding an AA meeting locally now and then - I think Pav was saying that same thing, that it might be nice to connect now and then over coffee or something with someone in our same boat. I don't suppose any of you happen to live in the woods of Northern Minnesota?
          Gratefully AF and NF since March 23, 2014

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            And Patrice, congratulations on your therapist skills! What a nice surprise, and also very economical for all of us. Cheers to the Dr. in the house!
            Gratefully AF and NF since March 23, 2014

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              Skype or FaceTime can be almost as good, Pepper. There is just something about seeing the other person and facial expressions, interrupting one another, and laughing or crying together that can't be beat. In person and adding touch would be ideal.

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                Pat, the Fall is such a good show, I loved it! SO good. One of the best I've seen on NetFlix for sure.
                Speaking of therapist, the guy on The Fall is a therapist.

                I went to a therapist with my husband to see how we could deal with fighting and anger issues. Really we only had issues because we would get drunk and fight. How much time and money did we waste going to a therapist when all we had to do was quit drinking? Kind of ridiculous when you think about it.

                Hey Gloamers I'm tired so I will talk to you tomorrow.
                Xo
                Narilly

                "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                AF April 12, 2014

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                  Morning Gloamers.
                  Everyone is sounding well!
                  I don't have so much to say right now. I'm still getting used to working every single day. For the past 6 years or so I've only been 3-4 days a week, and not even 8 hours a day, so that I could have time and energy for the kids. It's been tight financially, but it was important to me. Now that they are 10 and 13 :happy2: and both can get home from school on their own, I decided to up the hours. It's great-- but I'm trying to be very careful to take it slowly. My job is very physical so I'm fairly wiped out afterwards. I've been coming home and sitting on the sofa for a few minutes to collect myself before the girls come home and talk my ear off. I'm very grateful that they share so much with me, that I can be so close to my kids, and I try to always keep that in mind. Also when I feel my head might explode!!

                  I'm planning on going to another AA meeting tonight. A "Gratitude" meeting. It's at 1930 which is cosy at home time, so I'm not positive I'll make it-- but I found the one on Sunday really good. I ran into a woman who recognized me from a couple years back when she'd helped us out at work. It was a bit uncomfortable, and I felt a bit ashamed/embarrassed, but she was so cool about it. I told her I was afraid of the meeting Wed. night because it's at a local school and is an open meeting--I'm really afraid of running into people I know-- and she said, Don't worry. Only people who have a desire to stop drinking go to the meetings.

                  I'm very happy to be back here with all of you. I wish I could respond to all of the posts, but I don't know what to say in this moment. Just that almost everything written could have been directed at me and I thank you all for sharing yourselves.

                  Time to make brekkie.
                  xx
                  Last edited by lifechange; January 21, 2015, 12:19 AM.

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                    Hi,

                    Pepper - I won't say I wish I lived in northern Minnesota (tooooooo cold for me), but I will say it would be fun to live near each other. I would like to get some sober friends to hang out with. I am seeing a friend who is sober and lives in another town next month - we'll have a lot of catching up to do. Your therapist story! I went b/c of my marriage, but my husband essentially flunked out of therapy because of his unwillingness to talk about his crap, so I continued on my own. I kept skirting the alcohol issue, dropping small hints, thinking she'd bring it up, but only when I finally confessed did the whole truth come out. I think that's what happened to Caroline Knapp in Drinking, A Love Story. I recall her therapist saying something like "finally." So maybe there is some protocol where they wait for us to bring it up?? Weird.

                    Glad you have nice times with your girls, LC. Let us know about the AA meeting.

                    I'm exhausted today, too, and I just had to work a late event, so I am getting home after 15 hours at work. zzzzz.

                    Jane, are you around??

                    xo
                    Pav

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                      Howdy gloamers, great to see all the discussion, and I agree with NS, face to face discussion and support is something I need, I don't think I gave AA the chance I should have, but I'll definitely go back once my counselling sessions are finished!

                      And now, I get to do something that makes me feel good, very good in fact! When you bump into scottish lass today, give her a big hug...

                      scottish lass celebrates her 11 month milestone today, the countdown to her 1 year birthday starts! Congratulations my friend!!
                      Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
                      Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
                      Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                        Thank you Cowboy! :hug: back to you
                        Looking forward to my hugs (actually the running joke at work is to not touch me - so if people start to hug me, tongues will wag!!)
                        Just doing a fly by as I did not even get to log in yesterday - hope to have a moment to read back later...
                        “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                          11 months SL, the big countdown begins. congratulations.
                          AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                            Congratulations SL. 11 months. Hip hip hurray. That one year is so close.
                            No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                              SL, congratulations on 11 months! Wow, how time flies. Man, you are kickin butt!!
                              You are doing so well, I here is a big hug for you :hug:

                              Nice to see you Cowboy, glad you are comin along and starting to feel better.

                              Pat, I'm booking an appointment with you for therapy. I Need it

                              Pav, you are one hard worker. Ya, it's wierd with therapists and AL. Maybe timing is everything.

                              Life, you are sounding good. I know how hard it is to work full time with kids. They still need you even though they are not babies anymore.

                              Goodnight Gloamers.
                              Narilly

                              "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                              "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                              AF April 12, 2014

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                                Whoot on 11 months, SL. So very close to one year. Start getting ready for the big celebration! I love those big milestones.

                                I'll try to catch up later, too.

                                'night.
                                Pav

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