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    Lil, it's taken me 20 years to figure out why my weight can fluctuate by 20 lbs with no change to my eating habits. Because I'm within a normal weight range and 5'8 I can carry it, but I look like a sandwich board at the higher end. Turns out an autoimmune disorder called Hashimotos disease was the source of the problem. It's also the reason I've been feeling sick in recent weeks. In 1994 i read an article about hypothyroid (under active). I had every single symptom except that my lab work showed values to be within the normal range. Doctors I saw were dismissive, and friends weren't supportive because I'm "thin.
    "I was thin because I adhered to a 1200 calorie per day diet, exercised 2/3 hours a day, and eventually lapsed into heavily bulimic behavior. The only reason the Hashimotos diagnosis was made was because I went for a cat scan for a lump under my tongue. It turned out to be a no-big-deal aggravated salivary gland- wouldnt surprise me it was the result all the bingeing and purging.
    The cat scan also showed a nodule on my thyroid. This is a very common thing especially in women, and I believe they can go unnoticed, but since it was clinically documented, I was referred to a endocrinologist that knew the appropriate labs to order.
    Many docs rely on the TSH test alone. In many cases a person will have normal TSH values and still be hypothyroid. I was put on medication called Armour Thyroid and I felt better immediately. Prior to the big nodule revelation, I met with more doctors than I can count on 2 hands. They dismissed my concern about weight gain as vanity and sort of flicked a hand at me, like get over it. Made me feel terrible! Times are better now with the aid of a good doctor and medication but the first 2 knuckles on each hand are completely devoid of pigment from the trauma of my teeth raking up the skin there while cramming my hand down my throat all those years.
    Are you familiar with hypothyroid symptoms? Low energy, feeling cold, constipation , dry skin, brittle nails, swollen face and ankles, aches & pains, heavy periods and severe cramping ? I know those are broad & highly reported symptons. None of the doctors I saw took me seriously. Anyway, maybe worth looking into? My drinking problem bloomed straight out of bulimia. The warm buzz from the booze was so much more preferable than the eating and barfing. It felt like a much smoother problem. For a year or two anyway.

    I completed day 4 of master cleanse today and am feeling better. I am craving tasty food, but it's only 10 days and I'm so happy to be able to get up and be productive. I think I got too cozy with sugar and it spurned a Hashimoto's flare ( can I just tell you there aren't words for how good those pb & j Rice Krispie treats were)?
    Anyway, I would like to hear more about your symptoms. I know you've been dragging lately, and I can relate to that.
    Enough gazette from me for now.
    Love & hugs to all of you. You're my family for better and /or worse. And if ever I doubted that, I don't any more. You've stuck with me when I've gone off the rails over stupid shit, and taken me back into the fold with sincerity & heart. I'm incredibly grateful for that. It is a lesson in progress for me. See you guys tomorree.
    NS, our convo did not fall on deaf ears. I've got my Paleo books right on my night side table. Thanks again. :hug:
    Last edited by jane27; April 13, 2015, 10:55 PM.
    AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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      Thanks for reposting that 1-year missive, Jane - he hits most of the key points!

      Great to see you, PS. I've been thinking about you and wondering how you've been doing. DB, you're doing the best you can and that's enough :hug:.

      LB, for some of us with a particular brain biochemistry, sugar sets up the same loop of craving and excessive intake that alcohol and other known addictive drugs do. There can even be a post-consumption "hangover". It's not necessarily fun at first but abstinence works for sugar, too. I've found that the occasional small treat doesn't set up a binge anymore (partly because it no longer tastes very good - too sweet!).

      Enjoy your week off, Pav, and SL, I'm so glad you enjoyed your break! Another round of applause for you Nar - I'm so happy for you.

      We were on a 4 pm, 4-hour flight yesterday and it occurred to me how awful it would have been to fly at that time of day before I quit - trying to make 1 or 2 mini bottles of wine last 4 hours (my max public consumption). It would have been all I thought about! Instead I read, listened to music, dozed, and as much as you can these days, enjoyed the flight.

      Being FREE is THE BEST!

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        Jane, can hypothyroidism pop up suddenly, I have nearly all of those symptoms, especially being cold, low energy, I know when they run my blood work it's the bare minimum, maybe something is going on, thanks for the post
        I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

        I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
        Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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          I went to vehicle bureau again today. Got the title for the RV in my name now and transferred license plates to my car. Put them on the car and now I am good. Really want to get RV sold on Friday. Hope the dealer sticks to the price he quoted me on he phone. That will only leave my parents house to close on Monday. Then the legal stuff will be over for now. When my lawyer gets back from vacation I need to update my power of attorney and a bunch of other documents where hubbs was the person to contact on my behalf etc. So much think about and do.....and I so wish that NONE of this was needed.
          I miss him so much....
          Dottie

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            Pauly, my endocrinologist told me that Hashimoto's disease is chronic and therefore could not result in acute symptoms/ a flare up. After poking around on the internet I found lots of people that claim they do in fact have flare ups. I would recommend seeing an endocrinologist that is reputed to not rely solely on lab tests. When I was first diagnosed I was at the low end of normal, and did feel chronically ill. I assumed it was Epsteins Barr, but lots of times when I went into see the doc those titers did not suggest EBV. I joined a group on Facebook called 'Hashimoto's Thyroiditis Support Group'. Its very useful. When is the last time you had a physical? Could be a number of below the radar things.
            AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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              Hi there folkies - just a quick dash over lunch.
              NS - I can so relate to your sober experience of travelling. I used to also hang out for the AL on planes and the planning (e.g. will there be AL at the hotel I am staying at; should I clank bottles of duty free around - I once dropped a bottle of Jim Beam in a tiny airport when I was hung over and it of course stunk; when will the drinks trolley get to me; how can I get another drink without looking like a lush - haha!!) - now its so less hassle free to travel and I don't have to worry about making a fool of myself because of AL - of course I still do dumb things. And at my destination I can get to the conference bright and/or early or squeeze in so much more sightseeing and shopping!

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                I have had the same experience travelling. Trying not to act like a lush on the plane. I always would get a drink and have as many as I could. It is a lot less hassle not having to worry about it.
                Well, I am in bed now so I will check in tomorrow on Sober Wednesday.
                Narilly

                "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                AF April 12, 2014

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                  Everything surrounding air travel was a MASSIVE & manic alcohol ritual for me. I think it was one of the most painful of the learning-to-do-without experiences. It literally pained me, and I could hear people ordering drinks from many rows away. It doesn't bother me at all anymore. Grateful for that! Gnight Gloamers
                  AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                    Day 6 of cleanse. Having Michelin star quality food cravings and like nothing will be enough once I finally eat. Its not hunger either. I just want yummy. Lots to do today. Spent hours picking apart the Benjamin Moore color chart to try and choose a color for the family room and came up flat. Hubs went on line and in less than 15 minutes identified an option I like and am hopeful about. We are so opposite in that regard. I feel compelled to turn over every stone giving all new meaning to the word through, and he's light, breezy and practical. When something is good (never mind great), I want extra extra. He'll be happy with a normal amount and walk away satisfied where as I'd feel deprived, begin to plot a way to get more on my own terms ideally with no restrictions, then feel ashamed and guilty about it after getting it (if at all possible). I absolutely don't see this tendency changing, because I get such a charge out of absolutely, and extra, more, breaking the rules, indulging. I feel ashamed about that too. It’s exactly what Ellie talks about on Bubble Hour re: driven to extremes. I wonder if it’s a quality that's even changeable. I read a Wikipedia article on attachment theory some time ago- the basic gist I got was that not being nurtured adequately in the formative years leads to all types of personality disorder mutations including the one I described. Busted blaming Mom again. Awfully heavy way to start the day off!

                    For the sake of levity.... (ps raise your hand if you thought of sake- as in Japanese rice swill)



                    Wishing everyone a great day! :hug:
                    Last edited by jane27; April 15, 2015, 05:52 AM.
                    AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                      Cleanse over & I don't feel defeated for quitting 5 days early, but proud with the 5 days I did do, the work I've put into decorating on a use what you ready have budget, & happy that I opted to eat before I got crazy about it. Having turkey sausage soup with Kale and loving it. It's a beautiful day and I'd swear it was Friday if I didn't know it wasn't. Hubs home tonight and looking forward to surprising him with the re vamped/ post flood declutterized gym area of the basement. Love to all
                      AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                        Glad your cleanse is over Jane, your soup sounds delicious!

                        Having a nice Un Hung Wednesday. I am going to work out at noon. I haven't been exercising as much the past couple of months and my weight is starting to inch up. Gotta get back after it!

                        Have a great day everyone.
                        Narilly

                        "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                        "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                        AF April 12, 2014

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                          nar, it was sooooooooooo tasty! Xx
                          AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                            Hi, Gloamers:

                            At an outside beer/booze fest last night - I admit to a longing of "just one beer" in the evening sun. It passed quickly, and I was happy to be clear-headed and functioning at the end of the night. I worked the last two days and now will be taking some days off. May go camping with younger son, may just hang out and watch movies - we'll see. Either way, it will be delightfully alcohol free.

                            Flying was an excuse to drink for me, too. I would always have a drink or two in the airport before we left - nearly any time of day. It was true that I had lots of anxiety, and it was also true that I would take any excuse to drink. Glad those days are over! Flying is still stressful for me, but I have other ways of getting through. There is a Bubble Hour show on travel, and one woman talked about getting through with a special bag she made with relaxing things in it - lavender, an eye pillow, etc. I didn't go that far, but I do make sure I am taken care of.

                            Today marks 500 days sober for me. I do like those big, round numbers. Very happy to have spent them here with you Gloamers.

                            I hope everyone gets to the bottom of lethargy and cold. I am cold a lot, too, and really, really try to overcome lethargy with exercise. I know it wouldn't work if I actually had a hormone problem, but so far it seems to help. Commit to one trip around the block, and maybe you'll make it farther. At the very least it will warm you up if you walk briskly...

                            Glad you're back, NS. We missed you.

                            Bye for now.
                            Pav

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                              Lazy day here. Doing laundry and took hubb computer apart and put it in the basement. Looking over at it made me so sad and now seeing it gone makes me sad too...not going to win this one.
                              I have all the stuff for the RV ready for Friday. I just hope the darn thing starts for me. I want it gone too. So many emotions tied up in it and the plans we had that will never happen.
                              The closing on my folks house is Monday so after that I will probably collapse.....
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                                Hi, Pav

                                Actually I'm in your fair state right now on another trip! We're heading to a resort this afternoon so the next couple days should be really nice (for me -- my husband has to attend seminars).

                                Congratulations on your 500 days, Pav. I'm not at all surprised - you've had success written all over your posts for a long time now - but I'm very happy for you.

                                xx, NS

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