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Hi Loamers and welcome caper, i have seen you around the threads on here but never really said hi, so hi. Oh forgive me now but i am always abbreviating but i have so much to say and the quicker the better. God i even had a quick check in at the NN and waffled on for nearly a whole page. Oh well.

Now this "level headed" business, wow thats such a compliment thank you and when i mention it to my kids they will laugh their arses off but i do appreciate your kind words. I love this thread and yes you are totally right you just know when you have made it home and this is it!

Oh Pav, i love you, posting a post of mine. God i feel as if i have finally achieved something Woo hoo. To be honest Rahul was annoying me, a thought i should not have as everyone has their struggles but he was nearly making me drink!. Now look at him and i am so proud of his achievement.

Byrd is my inspiration and she has given faith in myself to do this journey, she has faith in me and this has never waivered in my journey (well maybe a tad) and i love her for her wisdom. I did so love her moderating post when she was 50, that is something i will never forget that she honestly told us what eventuated. Go those VIKING glasses!

NS i think my problem before with not drinking was i was terrified of never drinking again. It petrified me so if i had the urge to drink i didnt want to tell anyone as like Jvo said "she wanted to drink". When i finally understood that i can NEVER drink again that is when acceptance kicked in. I think there are a few "lights" that need to be switched on before we can totally give up al.

I want a better life "click", I dont want al to be my only friend "click", i dont want to destroy my body anymore "click", i dont want to lie anymore "click", i want to be completely honest "click" and I dont ever want to drink again "click". As i said on NN before my son had a can of al and i just said to him to put them in the freezer as they will get colder quicker. No thought of asking for a can, no wanting to have a drink or thinking of how i could pinch one, nothing and i was so damn happy about that.

Humble you are so right saying how low we got and we still went on drinking. I dont dwell on the past but i will never forget my drinking days though mind you i did forget a lot, a hell of a lot.

Pat, Pat Pat, it is a farking dry heat, 11% humidity, no air con and i am trying not to think about it. Was going to be 39 tomorrow (a huge relief NOT) but now up to 41.

Jvo lovey you can ring me anytime day or night, you mean a lot to me and if it means me hitching a ride over to hit you over the head then i will have too. Where there is a will there is a way and i am always around with MWO in the background just in case i am needed, its the least i can do to pay back what i have received from this site.

well another short post sigh. Oh went to the gym with my son to get prices and their air con didnt work so not joining up today so saturday it is. The guy said "that will give you a few days to think about whether you want to join" and i said "i know i dont want to join but i have to". So yummy mummy by 50 for sure. Only taken me 45 days to get motivated but time to join a bit of society.

Love you all xxxx

[patrice]

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Ava - you are so right .. a few lights need to switched on before we totally put al off the table..I've wavered a lot the last 2 weeks.. but no more wavering..
Jeez Louise that's serious dry heat.. not sure not to advise my dear, I only know humidity!!
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My head is like a neon light with all the lights switched on now but has taken me years and i think nearly hitting my rock bottom that did it, well a few actually. I ?wavered until it clicked and sometimes i still think that i am going to fail which is scary as i dont want to drink, i think about al minimally and i dont have any urges or want to buy al but i still think sometimes i will fail. Why would i think that when there are so many "donts" this time? Oh well, will think about that some more when i can be bothered.

It has dropped to 39.6 now at 8pm, its that hot it is giving me a headache but drinking so much water. I have been to thailand a couple of times and the humidity kills me over there Pat, its so draining.

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Ava, I think you are proving as we speak, that you are not failing so by keeping on learning and reaching for new things ( Gym.. haha , I know you are not actually " reaching" for that one.. but you will still do it!)
so yes think about that when you can be bothered!
Yes, that thai weather is exactly like here... exhausting!

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yes so true Pat if i think of it that way, oh god the gym, i have to do it now and i am so not a gym person but if i keep eating all the bloody lollies i'll be the side of a house. I dont cook much either so taking the boys food shopping this weekend and we are going on a health kick. Then thats it or else i WILL fail if i take on too much but it feels good and i am sleeping finally like a normal person.

God i am feeling for you then Pat with the humidity. You have a shower then sweat then want another one. do you ever acclimatise to that? How many days are you af now?

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Only 2 days Af.. but know it's the real thing now...
In fact you do get used to the humidity although that's often why i am always tired but the weird thing here it seems is the more exercise you do and sweat more, the better you feel..I'm yet to experience that.
All I know is my make up routines have changed significantly since living in the tropics..

I'm a bit of a foodie and love healthy food.. you have such Great food where you are Ava.. yay! you'll have a cool time shopping for healthy food!

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2 days is great, no ONLY about that one. God i hardly ever did one day af when i was at my peak of drinking.

The humidity was great for getting the crap out of your skin and god makeup, as soon as you put it on it ran between your boobs! How long have you been there for?

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2 and a half years.. and yes my skin looks great.. never ever dry!

[Eloise]

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Where r u Patrice.? I moved from the Caribbean to the Netherlands- what an adjustment. My feet are freezing all the time. Now I sleep with these weird booties made from a down comforter. I miss being sweaty actually, imagine that !!

[giraffe1234]

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Hi all!
I've been very quiet; it's really really hectic back at work. Took a little time to read posts from pg 86, and I am still amazed at what wonderful people you all are. Every post is an inspiration in a different way. I do love you all for the words of wisdom, experience, and insight (& hindsight). I feel honoured to share your experiences and drawing strength from them. Luv u all!

[acadiaofmaine]

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Good morning, all,

Day 11 here, 11 days "back." I am so happy with this thread-as someone said, not too many LOL's, pretty serious stuff which was the whole point of LOAM. Caper, it's great to see you back, stick with us!

Much to say, but I wanted to ask for NS's thoughts on diet. I think you have posted on this elsewhere. I am "borderline" diabetic, I think. My last fasting blood sugar level (about a year ago) was 126. Since then, it has gotten better, but particularly going AF, I am craving sugar. Yesterday I had a tough day dealing with not drinking, and I ate a lot of baked goods. Evidently my body doesn't handle carbs as well as it should, even though I run most days and am slim.

Anyway, what are your thoughts about diet, both in terms of supporting our AF efforts (good advice for everyone) and specifically for those of us who might be on the diabetic spectrum? I think an Atkins style approach is what I need but it doesn't appeal much.

My daughter has juvenile diabetes. Wow, I wouldn't wish that one anyone, or on any mother. I don't think it's related to my issues, but thought I'd throw it in here.

Have a good morning, everyone!

Ann

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Ann,
I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm eating far too many sugary foods this quit. Last night I had about 5 pieces of soft licorice (made in Australia, so good). Then I went back out to the kitchen and had a couple of candy orange slices. Help! I know this is not good for me--I felt so much better when I was eating healthy. But my body wants the sugar. I guess like quitting drinking, I'm going to have to just stop doing this.

[acadiaofmaine]

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HR,

Thanks for your comment! I had a muffin and 2 HUGE (I mean five-inch) cookies, and some ice cream. Good grief. No wonder I felt vaguely hungover this morning. Also, I have terrible dreams that I think might relate to sugar overload at night. Maybe No Sugar will comment on that.

There is a physiological aspect to craving the sugar-replacing the sugar in AL-and the psychological-rewarding ourselves with something else. For me there is also the reluctance to take care of myself. I don't know why that is. Maybe just habit from drinking days.

Ann

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Humble,
That Black Licorice from Australia is AWESOME! I buy it from Costco and have a really hard time not pigging out on it.

I really watch what I eat but since I have become AF I give myself some slack. I used to be really strict with it but now I will have a bowl of chips and dried mango covered in chocolate (Costco, so yummy). I would have been having 2/3/4 glasses of wine before so I think it is ok to snack on that stuff. As long as I don't drink AL. It is great because now I can actually eat part of a dessert or have sanpelligrino or whatever because I am not getting all the empty calories from AL.

Glad to hear from you Giraffe!

I got the book from Alan Carr yesterday. I will let you gals know how it works. As time goes on I see I will have to join a support group to really cement the fact, in my head, that I am not going to drink. It is such an easy thing to do if you are not careful. I know we have to remain vigilant always. For me, that would be easier if I had a weekly reminder, whether it be AA or whatever. I will try and figure that one out. The awesome Byrdie said that that really helped her to maintain sobriety.

Anyway, back to work...-7C here Ava,Pat. We are going to have to meet in the middle at around -20C!

Hugs,

[NoSugar]

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acadiaofmaine;1612851 wrote:
I think you have posted on this elsewhere. I am "borderline" diabetic, I think. My last fasting blood sugar level (about a year ago) was 126. Since then, it has gotten better, but particularly going AF, I am craving sugar. Yesterday I had a tough day dealing with not drinking, and I ate a lot of baked goods. Evidently my body doesn't handle carbs as well as it should, even though I run most days and am slim.
Anyway, what are your thoughts about diet, both in terms of supporting our AF efforts (good advice for everyone) and specifically for those of us who might be on the diabetic spectrum? I think an Atkins style approach is what I need but it doesn't appeal much.

HumbleRider;1612874 wrote: Ann,
I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm eating far too many sugary foods this quit. Last night I had about 5 pieces of soft licorice (made in Australia, so good). Then I went back out to the kitchen and had a couple of candy orange slices. Help! I know this is not good for me--I felt so much better when I was eating healthy. But my body wants the sugar. I guess like quitting drinking, I'm going to have to just stop doing this.

ooohhhh... my favorite topic :H!

This thread, started by DoggyGirl, contains a great deal of information, much of which I believe is correct: https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9...-70-70446.html. Several links are given throughout that thread that clearly explain the downsides of eating sugar. This information is more and more making it into the popular press -- the relations between sugar (and perhaps other carbohydrates) and various cardiovascular, degenerative, and neurological diseases in addition to the more obvious diabetes are becoming well documented.

Apparently some of the MWO literature (which I must admit I haven't read and I don't know where it is online) recommends cutting out sugar to facilitate getting and staying off AL, given their similarities in metabolism and activating reward pathways in the brain. The fact that so many people crave sugar when they give up AL makes sense and although I'm pretty down on sugar, it is better than AL in the short run. That said, I believe that sugar is killing us, too, at the levels we consume it, just more slowly and at huge health costs for all of the chronic diseases we seem to have.

Anyway, if diabetes is a concern, I would get a glucose meter. The fasting blood glucose concentration, which is the one typically tested, often gets bad after the post prandial concentrations have gotten much too high. Those values are rarely tested until the fasting value is bad and you are officially diagnosed with diabetes.

At the beginning of this dietary change, I tested my blood sugar regularly until my fasting level was consistently in the normal range so that I was no longer classified "pre-diabetic". I generally eat a rather high "good" fat, moderate protein, low carbohdrate diet. The carbs I eat are ones that I've verified, using the blood glucose meter, don't jack my numbers up too high.

I imagine you have a monitor around, Ann, right? I'm so sorry your daughter has type I diabetes - that is not an easy thing to deal with. I hope she is pretty stable.

The glucose meters (and the test strips) are pretty cheap on Amazon.

There are a lot of websites out there with 30-day no-sugar challenges that you could check out. I went cold turkey and just like with AL, there was a 2-wk or so period of feeling like I'd been hit by a truck. It takes awhile to switch your body from continuously burning carbs to burning fat. L-Glutamine was useful for me - more for sugar than for AL but maybe it is because that is what I did first.

Not everyone needs to reduce their carb intake dramatically but if you cut out added sugar and consume only real food and foods made from real foods (e.g. eliminate most processed foods and read the labels of ones you eat), I suspect that people who need to lose weight will and almost everyone will feel better.

Also - it is the weight around your middle (visceral fat) that is the concern - jiggly butts and thighs might be annoying but they're at least not killing you :H

That was probably more than you were asking for...