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    Morning Mr G and Gloamers - on my way to work.
    Thanks for asking after the daughter everyone - she is still sick. Very nasty virus.
    Hope your night on-all goes as best it can for you SL.
    Stay strong Jane - I won't be on-line much as its a super busy day

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      Thanks guys. xoxo
      AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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        Jane, sometimes it’s hard to ride out the stress, ill feelings, and feelings of being overwhelmed with everything you have going on right now. Sometimes all it takes is a good cry! Sometimes you just need to hold your head and cry, and pour out all your cravings and emotions with the tears. Soon the pain and sadness will pass. Crying is absolutely acceptable. Accepting your feelings without attaching any sense to them is sometimes quite healthy. Know that soon your pain will pass. Know that when it passes you will have a greater appreciation for not having that pain. You will also feel incredibly good when you realize that you did not have to drink in order to survive the pain! Ride out the pain by supporting your head lovingly in your own hands. It's okay to come here and share it. That’s why we’re here! And I have big shoulders if you need somewhere to lay your head while you cry! :hug:
        Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
        Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
        Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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          Cowboy that is beautiful. A good cry has helped me many times.
          I am taking care of myself. Feeling pretty vood lately.
          Jane that looks like a beagle in trouble. My pup is doing ok. Tonight he ran over and peed on my tv stand before I could catch him. Little monster. But he's getting most of it outside, just one or two accidents a day. Not bad for just starting out.
          No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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            Good cry is good medicine - I love a good shower to help get the tears going!
            Night is progressing - I am lucky I have such an incredible job that has such an impact - I do forget from time to time. Looks like I won't be working on my feet tonight, and hopefully from my bed :welldone:
            Jane - keep on LOAMing! And hi to the G's of the Gloamers - good to see you pop by.
            TT - problem with viruses, they have to go the course and can't be helped away
            Glad to hear you are doing well LB
            “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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              Hi, all:

              On my phone so a quick check in.

              I love a good cry, too. And a good laugh. Both release so much!

              Hope dinner was ok Jane.

              SL haven't heard much from son #1 so I am assuming he's having a blast. You DO have an important job. Thanks!

              Cute addition, LB!



              Wow, Cowboy and G in one day. Good to see you both here with your cheer squad as usual.

              Phone being weird. I'm signing off.

              Xo
              Pav

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                Jane, so glad you posted and didn't drink. Sometimes life just really sucks I know, just gotta get through it one day at a time.

                I gotta go so I will post soon.
                Xo
                Narilly

                "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                AF April 12, 2014

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                  Thanks Nar. Yesterday it brightened my day when I identified a 3rd and 4th option (along side suicide and getting blasted on cheap wine)...divorce & murder! Murder comes with its own bonus: free housing, meals & social activities.
                  These gals look happy and not one of them has roots.


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                  AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                    Hi all - tough day, spent 12 hrs at a hospital with a tough case
                    Lovely drive home through really pretty views - all vineyards and wineries - it was lovely to be admiring the views and then suddenly realizing that I was not being driven mad with all the wine around. Little hankering, especially after tough day, but nothing real!
                    Nar - brief check in - do hope you are ok, thinking of you lots and how stressful things must be. Do miss you chatting...
                    Made hummus - not the greatest, will have to look for other recipes.
                    Off to pick a girl up, other one is at sleep over - see you tomorrow
                    “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                      Hi, All:

                      Jane - no roots because they have Sophia with them!

                      SL - Sorry about your day - glad the wine isn't driving you mad.

                      Narilly - I agree - I miss your sunny check ins. Make sure you don't back away slowly and find yourself making a tough choice somewhere down the line. Let us know you're ok and sober as always.

                      Good night, Loamers.

                      Pav

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                        Hi there folks. Friday evening and more slushy weather on the way - maybe snow. Your night sounded long SL but its good that you can appreciate the lovely landscape where the vineyards are. One of my relatives just posted a picture of their new vineyard - its in a beautiful spot. They dont have a viticultural background but are doing this as an investment and a future retirement adventure and because they like to drink wine. Of course they dont have a problem with AL like dear Aunty TT does (oh yeah???).
                        Jane - maybe your new options are a tad extreme. But dont let this drive you back to cooking those mindless casseroles.

                        Nar- yes do check in.
                        LB - good luck with the Beagle. I helped rescue a lady the other day who was knocked over by her 2 dogs - she couldn't get up. One of the dogs was a large poodle (those dogs really scare me). Our cat tries to knock me over at least 2x a night. Its the inside/outside shuffle and a cunning way he likes to weave around my legs. I think he is saying
                        "look at me! look at me! I give you a reason to exist. You have to feed me, open the door, let me out - at least twice a day. I am the centre of your universe. You should consider yourself really grateful, lady!"

                        At least my daughter and my partner do squeak murmurs of acknowledgement. She is on the mend and we even managed to go to the theatre together last night. It was really great - and so much easier now that I dont drink. This is one bonus I really appreciate - being able to drive at night, go out and not give a toss about there being no AL or when I will get my next fix. I think my mind is a lot sharper these days.

                        I had a blood test this morning - its for lipids and liver functions. Results next week.

                        Hi there to everyone else - good to see you Cowboy and you too Mr G.

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                          Morning Gloamers,

                          TT, I love when cats do that..especially when really throw their weight into it
                          I am glad that your daughter is feeling better. Viruses can be so frustrating.

                          TJAF posted yesterday about passing a police pull over sobriety test on his way home. It was only a matter of time before I got caught in one of these. On the subject of the mind feeling sharper, on the contrary I feel like I have holes in my brain. It could be that it’s nothing more than the result of aging, but I had blackouts regularly. I got tired of friends making bitchy comments like “You told me that already” or “I just told you all about this yesterday” so I created a file called PHONE CALLS. When talking on the phone in the evenings I made a point to take notes. The odd thing is that taking the notes helped me to remember the conversation the next day- but without the notes? Forget it. Blocks of time and countless conversations went unaccounted for...

                          In other news, yesterday MIL bought a new dining table & chairs at a local, discount furniture store where she finagled a 15% discount + free same day delivery. She has since changed her mind and wants the stuff to go back. She and Uncle live in adjacent townhouses. While he wasn’t paying attention, she flagged down a neighbor and arranged to have the furniture moved into his garage (pending return). Now he’s up in arms. Did I mention it’s a mom and pop shop, all sales final? I’m certain hubs will handle reversing the transaction, but not without cost. The stress takes a big toll on his health- I wish she could see that.

                          Anyway, wishing everyone a happy unhung Friday!

                          PS The health aid quit yesterday. Big broo ha ha over her busting into a *nostalgic* bottle of MIL's cognac. I wonder who/how MIL is going to find a new one that will work for mice nuts. This one didn't speak english or drive a car.
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                          AF since January 7, 2014 *Never, never, never give up. ~ Winston Churchill*

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                            Good grief Jane - the MIL saga is unrelenting! Whatever next.
                            My memory is also full of holes - both long term memory and short term - but some things are crystal clear - I do believe I have damaged it, but live in hope lots will repair before old age ruins it again!
                            TT - glad things are improving with your daughter. I have picked my girl up each night this week at 8:30 - no stress! Delightful!
                            We used to have a standard poodle -he was a great dog - got him when eldest was diagnosed with asthma and the fish, and cats weren't really substituting for a dog! Became the ex's dog though so didn't really work out for the girls pet...
                            Hi Pav - looks like a nice weekend shaping up weather wise, any good hikes planned?
                            LB - good day to you as well...
                            and hi to all else who would like to say hello too
                            “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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                              Apparently some studies say that the key to memory and a sharp mind is getting absorbed in something that you find fascinating (not just thinking activities but e.g. drawing, creative sewing, crafts) as well as getting in some aerobic exercise - (that can be of the bedroom variety or just a good walk!!)
                              I think we worry these days too much about memory. because we have electronic devices that seem exact we often think we have to have biological minds that are just as accurate. Another point is that young people are as we all know just as forgetful. Memory is a social thing too - some societies encourage oral skills much more. Don't let yourself become stereotyped as forgetful because it can become a self fulfilling thing. My memory aint perfect and probably the statins I have to take don't help. But I dont think my very heavy AL abuse affected my memory or cognitive skills. Use and practice is important - I switch off when it comes to mathematical-type skills. Just my thoughts - but the social & cultural aspects of memory is an area I am interested in.

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                                I had a good conversation with SL today and she encouraged me to get back to this thread and help keep it busy. That kind of energy is important if posting and reading here is going to help us accomplish our goals.

                                I've been thinking about the Like and Thank buttons recently. I know most people wanted them but I think they're detrimental. I know I'm guilty of just hitting Like and moving on, not stopping to post what I liked about the message or even offering a different perspective on something the person said. What was really powerful for me when I first joined was when one person posted something and then several others added to it -- really strengthening the message. I doubt if people look to see the number of Likes or Thanks to see if there is group agreement about the importance of what was said - at least I know I don't. And that doesn't do anything to restate the message in a different way - a way that might be key for someone else 'getting it'. We all have different voices but I don't think they're all being heard like they used to be (before the site change) because it is just so easy to hit Like or Thank.

                                If you truly don't have anything to add, then sending the poster the message that he or she has been heard and appreciated with one of those buttons is probably a good thing. But I think it's important to respond, too, and I'm going to try to do that more.

                                Nar, people have expressed concern about you sounding down. I'm sorry you're down but I'm most concerned that you've backed away and I think this group is your main source of support. Posting when you're up should be practice for checking in when you're down and might need few extra hugs. You don't have to act happier than you are, just be you :hug:

                                My memory isn't ace but now that I don't beat myself up for it thinking it is all b/c I drank, it doesn't bother me as much. I try to stay organized with notes and stuff like that. I know part of it is that I just don't always pay attention to what people are saying when I'm not all that interested and then... it doesn't stick! Or, I multi-task and that has been shown to be disastrous for retention.

                                Have a good MAE, NS

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